[R&F] Rise and Fall General Discussion Thread

Are we talking logical or illogical units here?

Also, while I realize the Wikipedia featured articles have been strangely accurate, I would say that we have to look only at those, not pictures or "on this day".
 
Are we talking logical or illogical units here?

Also, while I realize the Wikipedia featured articles have been strangely accurate, I would say that we have to look only at those, not pictures or "on this day".
We're talking real degrees, which are Fahrenheit. 0 is *cold*.

And as far as weird predictions go, the Wiki link doesn't even crack the top ten. In this forum, we've literally used chicken bone scrying.
 
Are we talking logical or illogical units here?

Also, while I realize the Wikipedia featured articles have been strangely accurate, I would say that we have to look only at those, not pictures or "on this day".

I specified F. :)

IN Celsius we haven't seen zero since before Christmas
 
They did it to spite me. I will only ask for mundane, dull things from now on. Come on, Giant Paperclip by the Highway wonder!!
Just makes me think of MS Word's annoying little mascot back in the day...

"It looks like you're trying to build a wonder! Would you like me to set your city to maximize faith?"
 
Just makes me think of MS Word's annoying little mascot back in the day...

"It looks like you're trying to build a wonder! Would you like me to set your city to maximize faith?"

"It looks like you crashed me and lost your term paper. You should be more careful next time!"
 
Has anyone already seen an announcement for preview let's plays? I think I read or heard somewhere that there will be some before release. I would have guessed that they start a month prior to release, and thus I think first announcements on channels should be out by now/soon. But if no one sees some before next week, I guess the let's plays will start later (maybe 2 weeks prior?). Maybe 2k/Firaxis don't want to get through the same procedure as before release of the base game and give out versions that only contain a few civs.
 
Not much on the main section of English Wiki today, but on the On This Day portion Georgia is mentioned. :D
 
And Kongo isn't OP right now? :p

well it is but i wouldn't mind if Kongo would be so nerfed so hard that would become , like a civ less OP than Norway, if they could found a religion then :p:p
Don't having the ability to found a religion is just completly atrocius for any civilization in civ games
 
We're talking real degrees, which are Fahrenheit. .

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Also, 0 degrees Celsius is *also* really bloody cold (though not AS cold as 0 degrees Fahrenheit though WTH O_O)

Alsoalso, the Wiki feature articles don't mean a thing. Unless you believe there's some Hansel-and-Gretel style breadcrumb trail planted by the Illuminati. I hope the next Civ gets spoiled soon, before someone accidentally pokes out an eye with their tinfoil dowsing rod.
 
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Also, 0 degrees Celsius is *also* really bloody cold (though not AS cold as 0 degrees Fahrenheit though WTH O_O)

Alsoalso, the Wiki feature articles don't mean a thing. Unless you believe there's some Hansel-and-Gretel style breadcrumb trail planted by the Illuminati. I hope the next Civ gets spoiled soon, before someone accidentally pokes out an eye with their tinfoil dowsing rod.

I think this explains the superiority of Fahrenheit in terms of use by humans.
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I think this explains the superiority of Fahrenheit in terms of use by humans.
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Except not quite? I know you are being facetious, but for the few people who read this in earnest:

The 0°C is the exact freezing point of water, whereas 100°C is the exact boiling point of water, which gives a very distinct idea of what is "hot" or "cold" is. Fahrenheit has those values at 32°F and 212°F, which is a bit arbitrary. As for where °F came from, it's is apparently the point at which a mixture of ice, water and ammonium chloride becomes stable, which is again, a very arbitrary and unnecessarily difficult way to express a degree of heat. (Kelvin has an even better way of expressing it, as 0K is simply absolute zero, aka the lowest possible temperature we have knowledge of)

Of course, the "centigrade" system of there being exactly 100 degrees between the boiling point and freezing point of water, (as opposed to 180 with Fahrenheit) allows for easy percentage calculation and scaling without having to resort to decimals (which is, again, weird, considering the temperature difference between 1°C and 2°C is in fact larger than the one between 1°F and 2°F). In fact, Celsius only expresses degrees in decimal numbers if it has to convert from Fahrenheit or express Absolute Zero. ^__^

You may consider it vague, but everyone's perception of "hot" and "cold" have always been that way. The human body isn't made for measuring temperatures ad hoc, as our bodies can only measure relative changes anyway. The point that Celsius is "vague" is therefore moot because it's the exact opposite (and this is ftr also true for Fahrenheit. :) )

Now the actual reason why Fahrenheit is still used in the US today, despite its difficulty is because it was the first system introduced to measure temperatures. Fahrenheit invented his degree system in 1724, while Celsius invented his in 1742, with Linnaeus finalizing it in 1744. SI chose to adopt Celsius's in part because the British didn't wait for Celsius to finish his system and had already adopted Fahrenheit by then (and SI is French, meaning they're inclined to do the reverse of whatever the British do. Oh, politics) but mostly because Celsius's system has a lower difficulty curve. (again. 0= freezing, 100= boiling. There's no simpler way of expressing those concepts, really.) Hence why you still use inches, miles, yards, pounds, ounces and other arbitrarily chosen measurements that never made sense to begin with, as opposed to the rest of the world, which adopted SI if given the choice..

TL;DR it's all the fault of the British. *throws large crate of thermometres overboard*


Class in session.
 
Let's discuss a potential civ and leader not capable of winning domination victories.

Yes, we can mention the Cree, but that's for another thread.

I'm discussing a different civ.
 
Let's discuss a potential civ and leader not capable of winning domination victories.

Yes, we can mention the Cree, but that's for another thread.

I'm discussing a different civ.

Gandhi? :p
 
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