[R&F] Rise and Fall General Discussion Thread

[Kimiimaro]

So, here is the updated list of the spotted City-States.

Amsterdam - The Netherlands (2nd revealed R&F Civ)
Antananarivo - Madagascar (appeared in Mongolia and the Netherlands livestream)
Armagh - (Northern) Ireland/Celts (appeared in the Cree First Look)
Auckland - New Zealand (appeared in Mongolia and the Netherlands livestream)
Buenos Aires - Argentina (appeared in Korea livestream)
Brussels - Belgium (appeared in Korea livestream)
Carthage - Carthage (appeared in India livestream)
Geneva - Switzerland (appeared in Korea livestream)
Granada - Moors/Al-Andalus (appeared in the Netherlands First Look)
Hattusa - Hittites (appeared in Korea livestream)
Hong Kong - Hong Kong (appeared in the Full Details video)
Jakarta - Indonesia (DLC) - replaced by Bandar Brunei - Brunei (appeared in the Full Details video)
Jerusalem - Hebrews, Israel
Kabul - Afghanistan (appeared in Korea livestream)
Kandy - Sri Lanka (appeared in Georgia First Look)
Kumasi - Ashanti (appeared in Georgia livestream)
La Venta - Olmec (appeared in India livestream)
Lisbon - Portugal (appeared in the Cree First Look)
Mohenjo Daro - Harappa (appeared in Chandragupta First Look)
Muscat - Oman (appeared in Korea livestream)
Nan Madol - Micronesia (appeared in Georgia livestream)
Palenque - Maya (appeared in Mongolia and the Netherlands livestream)
Preslav - Bulgaria (appeared in Korea livestream)
Seoul - Korea (1st revealed R&F Civ)
Stockholm - Sweden (appeared in Korea First Look)
Toronto - Canada
Valletta - Malta (appeared in Korea livestream)
Vilnius - Lithuania (appeared in Mongolia and the Netherlands livestream)
Yerevan - Armenia (appeared in India livestream)
Zanzibar - Swahili (appeared in Korea livestream)

CS Replacements:
Antioch - Byzantium? (appeared in Mongolia and the Netherlands livestream)
Babylon - Babylon (appeared in Mongolia's First Look)

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

So, here is the updated list of the spotted City-States.

Amsterdam - The Netherlands (2nd revealed R&F Civ)
Antananarivo - Madagascar (appeared in Mongolia and the Netherlands livestream)
Armagh - (Northern) Ireland/Celts (appeared in the Cree First Look)
Auckland - New Zealand (appeared in Mongolia and the Netherlands livestream)
Buenos Aires - Argentina (appeared in Korea livestream)
Brussels - Belgium (appeared in Korea livestream)
Carthage - Carthage (appeared in India livestream)
Geneva - Switzerland (appeared in Korea livestream)
Granada - Moors/Al-Andalus (appeared in the Netherlands First Look)
Hattusa - Hittites (appeared in Korea livestream)
Hong Kong - Hong Kong
Jakarta - Indonesia (DLC) - replaced by Bandar Brunei - Brunei
Jerusalem - Hebrews, Israel
Kabul - Afghanistan (appeared in Korea livestream)
Kandy - Sri Lanka (appeared in Georgia First Look)
Kumasi - Ashanti (appeared in Georgia livestream)
La Venta - Olmec (appeared in India livestream)
Lisbon - Portugal (appeared in the Cree First Look)
Mohenjo Daro - Harappa (appeared in Chandragupta First Look)
Muscat - Oman (appeared in Korea livestream)
Nan Madol - Micronesia (appeared in Georgia livestream)
Palenque - Maya (appeared in Mongolia and the Netherlands livestream)
Preslav - Bulgaria (appeared in Korea livestream)
Seoul - Korea (1st revealed R&F Civ)
Stockholm - Sweden (appeared in Korea First Look)
Toronto - Canada
Valletta - Malta (appeared in Korea livestream)
Vilnius - Lithuania (appeared in Mongolia and the Netherlands livestream)
Yerevan - Armenia (appeared in India livestream)
Zanzibar - Swahili (appeared in Korea livestream)

CS Replacements:
Antioch - Byzantium? (appeared in Mongolia and the Netherlands livestream)
Babylon - Babylon (appeared in Mongolia's First Look)

Hong Kong was in the Full Details video.

 

[SammyKhalifa]

I was going to guess that we wouldn't be seeing a Hong Kong civ . . .

 

[Kimiimaro]

Hong Kong was in the Full Details video.

Thanks for telling me. Fixed.

 

[Chasethemage]

Bandar Brunei appears in the Features video, on the governors part, If you look at What city Amani was operating in, it's Bandar Brunei.

 

[Ondolindë]

Twitter just showed the Pike and Shot.

Edit: upgrades from the Pikeman, gaining additional Melee Strength

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

https://twitter.com/CivGame/status/954367878861545475

Here is the Tweet for Pike&Shot. There's not enough information to warrant its own thread.

 

[Ondolindë]

Which means then, no wonder today, I guess.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

Which means then, no wonder today, I guess.

We had both a unit and a Wonder last Friday.

 

[Siptah]

So no wonder movie? Or two ‚reveals‘ today?

 

[SammyKhalifa]

cool looking units, though

 

[Ondolindë]

Really? I can't remember the unit. Thanks for the reminder.

Edit: yes! The drone. Gotcha!

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

Really? I can't remember the unit. Thanks for the reminder.

It was the Drone.

 

[h0nk0815]

So Canada and Brunei are still possible.

 

[Kimiimaro]

So Canada and Brunei are still possible.

Nope, Brunei isn't. I missed that, but I already fixed that thanks to @Chasethemage.

 

[Phoenix1595]

The wonder vid may come out later today. They haven't been consistent on release time with those (usually drops anywhere from 10AM-2PM EST).

I hope it is Amundsen, since we don't know what it does yet, but ToA is likely since they snuck it in a few times in the past week or two.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

Wonders they haven't officially revealed yet:
Amundsen-Scott Polar Research Station
Casa de Contratacion
Kotoku-in (we've seen the details in a livestream though)
Temple of Artemis (we've seen the details in a livestream though)

 

[Josephias]

Jakarta - Indonesia (DLC) - replaced by Bandar Brunei - Brunei (appeared in the Full Details video)
Jerusalem - Hebrews, Israel
Kabul - Afghanistan (appeared in Korea livestream)

Spotted this and could not avoid thinking: headbanded young guy might be a King David depiction. Shades of blue may fit.

Hebrew and Mapuche may be considered at similar level of controversy-ness (if for different reasons)

Any possibility of suspected Lautaro being other guy?

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

So Israel and Canada are still in the running for possible Civs.

 

[liv]

Speaking of Canada. I noticed the the Cree had only Cree named cities as far as we have seen so that leaves room for Canada to be included for sure