CommandoBob
AbstractArt
It is attached to Post #97, >>HERE<<.
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TheOverseer714
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I'm up in Rat 29 and Kraz01, so I'm pretty well swamped. Best bet for me is Monday night. If Darski can take it, please do.
darski
Regent in Training
I have it and will play either tomorrow night or early Monday so you can take it after me.
darski
Regent in Training
Since I couldn't sleep, I thought I would get my preturn out of the way and see what is where...
The science research did not get changed so now we are going to get a freebie - I think - but we don't know enough to get us a government or much else.
What do we want as a freebie?
Did we disavow the TGL? as we could have Lit safely in the bag and build the wonder later. I think we said no to that but I have read so many games I can't keep them straight any more.
We could get Bronze working and get closer to IW that way?
Mysticism seems like such a wussy choice...
So what does the team want to get as our freebie No choices now as we get Philo in 3.
spoiler shows science tech chart
The science research did not get changed so now we are going to get a freebie - I think - but we don't know enough to get us a government or much else.
What do we want as a freebie?
Did we disavow the TGL? as we could have Lit safely in the bag and build the wonder later. I think we said no to that but I have read so many games I can't keep them straight any more.
We could get Bronze working and get closer to IW that way?
Mysticism seems like such a wussy choice...
So what does the team want to get as our freebie No choices now as we get Philo in 3.
spoiler shows science tech chart
Spoiler :
CommandoBob
AbstractArt
I would suggest learning the most expensive tech that we can. That results in a tie for Code of Laws and Literature, both at 240 beakers, per CAII. Code of Law leads to Republic, which is probably not our best government choice. In AW games, Monarchy tends to be favored since there is no War Weariness. Literature lets us build libraries, which will help us learn next war techs faster.
I would go with Literature so that we could get smarter faster. I think it helps us more than Code of Laws does.
I would go with Literature so that we could get smarter faster. I think it helps us more than Code of Laws does.
darski
Regent in Training
That was my thinking too.
Courthouses don't come into too many "important points" in the same way that libs do.
I have a particular fondness for libs myself
Courthouses don't come into too many "important points" in the same way that libs do.
I have a particular fondness for libs myself
darski
Regent in Training
I did hear from Rod and it seems we agree that we should take Lit.
Our next suggestion is to go with BW so that we can then get !W. We have a good chance of Iron with our mountains and hills.
It is very early in the game as we would still be in first round plays if our people had not hit the RL bar so I was planning to play 20 turns. Not much happens in 10 turns at this point. Yes or no to 20 turns.
My turnlog may not be great but it does exist and will give us as much info as we need for now.
Our next suggestion is to go with BW so that we can then get !W. We have a good chance of Iron with our mountains and hills.
It is very early in the game as we would still be in first round plays if our people had not hit the RL bar so I was planning to play 20 turns. Not much happens in 10 turns at this point. Yes or no to 20 turns.
My turnlog may not be great but it does exist and will give us as much info as we need for now.
darski
Regent in Training
I got some time this morning before leaving this afternoon so my turns are played. I played to 1500 BC which CA II said was turn 60.
Quick notes... on the very last turn I did see Brown (Russian) borders just past a choke point.
I played a tad past my turns because IW finished the next turn - the news ain't fabulous for such mountainous land.
Will load turnlog immediately.
Pics later tonight
And hand off notes this evening as well. Such as they are.
I should have posted my preturn notes but forgot that... oops this keeping track and reporting thingy is going to be the death of me.
OK. will post Preturn stuff
Turnlog - such as it is
and pics and stuff tonight
"Save" I can post now. Take it away Calgon.
Quick notes... on the very last turn I did see Brown (Russian) borders just past a choke point.
I played a tad past my turns because IW finished the next turn - the news ain't fabulous for such mountainous land.
Will load turnlog immediately.
Pics later tonight
And hand off notes this evening as well. Such as they are.
I should have posted my preturn notes but forgot that... oops this keeping track and reporting thingy is going to be the death of me.
OK. will post Preturn stuff
Turnlog - such as it is
and pics and stuff tonight
"Save" I can post now. Take it away Calgon.
darski
Regent in Training
Research: in 8
Economy: 29 gold, -1 gpt
Government: Despotism
City Builds:
Trondheim (3): settler in 2, grows in 7.
Bergen (1): archer in 9 grows in 9
City Production;
settler [1]
R-archer [1]
Military:
Workers 02
Warrior 03
Archers 03
Spears 00
Curragh 00
Military Expenses:
Allowed Units:8
Total Units:8
Unit Support: 0 gpt
Available leader: None
Resources connected to Trondheim:
None
Wonder Races: none at the moment
Long Term Goals:
Take over the world - same as we do every night.
Mid Range Goals:
Discover and destroy any Civ on our continent
Build at least 10 strong cities in our core area.
Develop an offensive force.
Short Range Goals: My turns
Build at least 2 cities
Build road system to connect all cities
Safe exploration of nearby land to discover resources.
Clear Barbs as they appear.
Preturn notes
Switch Bergen to Barracks - in the time it takes to build a weak unit we can have the assurance of Vet units by the time someone shows up. This is AW and this is our core area.
Send archer from Trondheim to control barb on hill- worker safety issue.
Economy: 29 gold, -1 gpt
Government: Despotism
City Builds:
Trondheim (3): settler in 2, grows in 7.
Bergen (1): archer in 9 grows in 9
City Production;
settler [1]
R-archer [1]
Military:
Workers 02
Warrior 03
Archers 03
Spears 00
Curragh 00
Military Expenses:
Allowed Units:8
Total Units:8
Unit Support: 0 gpt
Available leader: None
Resources connected to Trondheim:
None
Wonder Races: none at the moment
Long Term Goals:
Take over the world - same as we do every night.
Mid Range Goals:
Discover and destroy any Civ on our continent
Build at least 10 strong cities in our core area.
Develop an offensive force.
Short Range Goals: My turns
Build at least 2 cities
Build road system to connect all cities
Safe exploration of nearby land to discover resources.
Clear Barbs as they appear.
Preturn notes
Switch Bergen to Barracks - in the time it takes to build a weak unit we can have the assurance of Vet units by the time someone shows up. This is AW and this is our core area.
Send archer from Trondheim to control barb on hill- worker safety issue.
darski
Regent in Training
I'll put the spoiler tags just to reduce the length of the post.
if you have questions, you can post while I am out and I will try to answer them this evening.
This is a zoomed out pic of our whole navigated area
Spoiler :
if you have questions, you can post while I am out and I will try to answer them this evening.
This is a zoomed out pic of our whole navigated area
Spoiler :
darski
Regent in Training
Could you let me know what kinds of pics you want to see? I take lots but many are just for reminders for myself.
CommandoBob
AbstractArt
Looks like good terrain for an AW game. Neighbors are far away so we can grow and expand in peace and quiet. Even if we do meet someone, it will be some weak unit on scouting duty. We would be forced to declare war but it would be some time before their units would arrive at our cities.
Just because we see borders does not mean we have to meet people and declare war. According to CAII we have met zero civs. If we can build two or three more cities before we meet someone that would be great. With that many cities, we can have 4 making Archers and such, one building a settler and one building a library or barracks, and stil be able to rotate the builds around and not damage our ability to wage war.
Northwest looks good for expansion, lots of nice green tiles. Time for a Dot Map of possible city sites?
Just because we see borders does not mean we have to meet people and declare war. According to CAII we have met zero civs. If we can build two or three more cities before we meet someone that would be great. With that many cities, we can have 4 making Archers and such, one building a settler and one building a library or barracks, and stil be able to rotate the builds around and not damage our ability to wage war.
Northwest looks good for expansion, lots of nice green tiles. Time for a Dot Map of possible city sites?
TheOverseer714
Overseer
My bet is Carthage, if it was Russia we would have met scouts by now.
darski
Regent in Training
yes I think you might have a point there - Carthage makes more sense.
I turned Sam in the other direction when I saw the hint of borders so we don't "know" them yet.
darski
Regent in Training
I have the picture of the border that Sam Spotted
Some CivAssist II information screens
The Westlands may yet be a hotbed of interest and activity:
I don't think I am spoiling anything by mentioning our ONLY Iron source. The new player would have found it the minute he hit Enter
For dot-mapping purposes if you want them:
My personal choice would be to start moving towards our Brown neighbours. If we want them to waste their units on our spears (if we build some ) then they can wear themselves out getting near or they might fill that galley with an Archer and show up.
It might be worth putting a barracks in Twofer Town as it could see some action. I was thinking that it would be a good harbour city when we get Map-Making.
At this moment, I don't recall what the next Tech was - well Iron working is still completing for the next player and I don't think I had anything in the queue when it finished. do we want to rush towards Monarchy so we get out of Despo? A quick look at CAII shows that we would lose 4 more gpt by doing that - at this point but times change.
I would suggest that it would be worth the time to send the current settler to that iron spot and send the next one to the hill on the way to the iron just to make hook ups quicker. Those may not be great but the iron - while it lasts- could be worth the effort. I really do not know the best approach here so I depend on the team to sort that one out. I think we should settle on the hill so we can't be pillaged
All current cities are connected but I had expected that we would expand to the south east area first so the workers are just outside two-fer heading to another possible city site on the coast.
I am not sure what else to mention as this closes out.
Any questions. I am going to post another pic as an instructional aid for myself in this game. TTYL
Spoiler :
Some CivAssist II information screens
Spoiler :
The Westlands may yet be a hotbed of interest and activity:
I don't think I am spoiling anything by mentioning our ONLY Iron source. The new player would have found it the minute he hit Enter
For dot-mapping purposes if you want them:
Spoiler :
My personal choice would be to start moving towards our Brown neighbours. If we want them to waste their units on our spears (if we build some
) then they can wear themselves out getting near or they might fill that galley with an Archer and show up.It might be worth putting a barracks in Twofer Town as it could see some action. I was thinking that it would be a good harbour city when we get Map-Making.
At this moment, I don't recall what the next Tech was - well Iron working is still completing for the next player and I don't think I had anything in the queue when it finished. do we want to rush towards Monarchy so we get out of Despo? A quick look at CAII shows that we would lose 4 more gpt by doing that - at this point but times change.
I would suggest that it would be worth the time to send the current settler to that iron spot and send the next one to the hill on the way to the iron just to make hook ups quicker. Those may not be great but the iron - while it lasts- could be worth the effort. I really do not know the best approach here so I depend on the team to sort that one out. I think we should settle on the hill so we can't be pillaged
All current cities are connected but I had expected that we would expand to the south east area first so the workers are just outside two-fer heading to another possible city site on the coast.
I am not sure what else to mention as this closes out.
Any questions. I am going to post another pic as an instructional aid for myself in this game. TTYL
darski
Regent in Training
Micromanaging cities is my weakest point.
I do it hit or miss and that is not a good thing (thank you Martha - you can leave now)
This is a pic of Trondheim when it has just completed a settler so it is at basic production. We might want to let it grow by building a spear(that got changed) and a couple more archers... but I digress.
Could someone show me what we should be doing soon and how to make the most of what the city resources offer us to use. Do we want food or shields more? I don't even know the questions to ask.
Help
I do it hit or miss and that is not a good thing (thank you Martha - you can leave now)
This is a pic of Trondheim when it has just completed a settler so it is at basic production. We might want to let it grow by building a spear(that got changed) and a couple more archers... but I digress.
Could someone show me what we should be doing soon and how to make the most of what the city resources offer us to use. Do we want food or shields more? I don't even know the questions to ask.
Help
TheOverseer714
Overseer
Until it grows, there isn't much to micromanage. Right now, food is the priority. BTW, we need a granary in Trondheim to not lose so much when we pop a settler. I'll play probaly tomorrow night, Rat29 has waited long enough for my attention, so it gets front burnered. Then I'll play this, then Hawk03. Busy? You betcha!
darski
Regent in Training
Then we can put pots next on the "need to know" list.
I was asking the question now so that I would understand it when my turn come up again.
I was asking the question now so that I would understand it when my turn come up again.
darski
Regent in Training
My thoughts for cities over the next bit.
I completely mis-remembered where the Iron is located. forget all that I said
I tend to favour hills when I can do so generally but I think they get an edge in AW games.
I do think the iron and the road should be priorities.
What are the chances Carthage will have archers or swords at this time?
BTW. I am municipal-locationally challenged. Just another of my vast repertoire of Civ skills
I completely mis-remembered where the Iron is located. forget all that I said
I tend to favour hills when I can do so generally but I think they get an edge in AW games.
I do think the iron and the road should be priorities.
What are the chances Carthage will have archers or swords at this time?
BTW. I am municipal-locationally challenged. Just another of my vast repertoire of Civ skills
Rodent
Carnage
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Capturing Iron should be a Priority . I would put it second on the list of Cities to Build.
Darski, In most of the Early game, food is Important . Go food for quick growing and when it grows ,shields for making settler quickly
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If you can get to it before me Overseer, go Ahead and play.
Darski, In most of the Early game, food is Important . Go food for quick growing and when it grows ,shields for making settler quickly
Roster- 1) Darski- Just played
2) Rodent- UP!
3) CommandoBob- Swaying on the Deck
4)CivRulesAll- Grounded Until Further Notice
5) Yahya- Lurker for the time being
6) Overseer-Part-timer
If you can get to it before me Overseer, go Ahead and play.
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