Role Play Challenge: Honest Abe Loves NY!

[Stewie0416]

GET RIFLES NOW. Get some forts built up right now. I cannot urge you more. Boobica is right on your door step and once she does declare everything goes to hell.

BTW, still not corrected....

 

[Matthew5117]

Directly I got Nationalism, Engineering, Guilds and 630 gold. Indirectly (through Guilds) I got Printing Press. Seams like a good haul for Education.

Astronomy is great trade bait (The Ais love it) plus it gives them somewhere to bring their armies (other than NY!). And yes, I found in OCC's a +25% boost in science is worth it.

Makes sense. Self objection declined by me.

Corrected, thanks!

Yeah, still not.

 

[madscientist]

Yeah, still not.

Hopefully, corrected now!

 

[Matthew5117]

Hopefully, corrected now!

Ah! There we go!

So, your lagging in quite some areas, but that's expected in an OCC.

But my question is, can you please show the top 5 cities? It gives a general sense of who's got more in their best cities.

 

[Loki Strikes]

Go pacifism, it will REALLY help with GP generation, the more GP the better.
Bah @doom and gloom, go biology and get national park up.

 

[timmy827]

Water under the bridge now, but if you are planning on NP I don't get why you aren't heading straight for biology. This is one situation where Liberalism itself doesn't help much, so it would have been better to hold onto Education and researching up that line, so you could cash it for SciMeth or Biology.

 

[semirami]

I'd abandon Economics right now. Getting the free great merchant is questionable, since it's open to Wang and Chirchil too. Economics is a top priority tech for AIs, so you can't trade it a lot. Environmentalism is a much better civic than Free market. So I'd go Gunpowder/Chemistry/Scientific Method/Biology/Medicine. These are great for backfilling and National park+ Biology+Enviromentalism will skyrocket your research rate.

 

[bestje]

I wouldn't have traded education so early, I'd have waited as long as possible leaving lib with 1 turn of research left to grab the latest possible tech.

scimeth will probably take a pretty big chunk out of how much science you're doing, but its still worth grabbing bio ASAP for the NP

I think you are fairly well set for a space win, it might be worth stirring up some trouble between the AIs: that way they are more likely to leave you alone and it will slow their teching down

how is the culture war for the iron going, it still hasn't flipped but should fairly soon after you start getting culture on that square.
does anyone have two sources of copper? you don't need it yet but its worth keeping an eye on who has any surplus resources the SS needs, as you may need them to be friendly to get them to trade it to you

 

[cas]

I think you are fairly well set for a space win, it might be worth stirring up some trouble between the AIs: that way they are more likely to leave you alone and it will slow their teching down

Be careful on that. The AI religions were a little different in my shadow game, but I stoked too much war and Hannibal ended up taking over AI after AI in a vassal domino effect. Only myself and one AI were not his vassal by end of game. Ignoble diplo loss circa 1930ish before I could get the spaceship half finished. He was just under the dom threshold too...and teching/building SS way too fast. I haven't played through the end of the space race yet but I think he would have won SS if not dom or diplo.

cas

 

[madscientist]

Honest Abe Loves New York: Part IV

Another successful segment moving us along here.

First, the techpath. I took Sem's advice and chose the Biology path, so

Gunpowder/Chemistry/Scientific Method/Biology/Physics/Replaceable Parts/Steam Power/Rifling/Steel and saved

Early on we meet

Who is someone's vassal. We open Borders and ignore her.

Now the other advice I was getting was to start stirring the pot witht eh AIs. well no need to because out of nowhere

WE quietly stayed out of it.

However, we made kept making trades.

And when the Celtic Dame came asking for help

How could I refuse!

And for those promising me iron sooner than later

Yep, we are the proud owner of that iron resource!

Also note we have fortified the borders with forts. we are also working on forts to the south in the jungle and some defenders there.

We make a fair trade to Hannibal

AND OUT OF NOWHERE

So he dropped some Jumbos, cats, HAs on our coast which we took care of.

We also went looking for Allies

Which upped our relations to Friendly and lasted the segmeent. We also have Boudica as friendly.

We finished our only wonder of the segment

Which sped up Biology.

We also decided to get peace from Ramesses.

And we finally met the last AI

We opened borders and ignored him.

So after Biology

Our city really grew after this. we started building forrest preserves and the National Epic in New York. I also should point out that we do in fatc have oil! No coal though.

And our tech situation

So I started trading what we could

And after the National Park is built

Those are free specialists right now.

And soon, all holy hell breaks out again........

To Be Continued........................

 

[madscientist]

Honest Abe Loves New York: Part IV

And then again

What the hell is this guy's problem????????????????

So we dialed up of favorite friend

Ah, Ramesses settled right on that coast

We quickly razed the city before Hannibal could capture it and get close border problems.

Our part of the war did not last long

After that we decided perhaps we need rifling/steel sooner than later.

Meanwhile New York

And still growing mind you, still growing.

And to speed up steel

And we saved there.

Asoka is pleased, Hannibal and Boudica are friendly

A view of the land

And the City shot of New York

AND STILL GROWING!

Techs

OK, behind a little to Asoka

So there you have it!

So where do we tech next

Electricity/Refridgeration for the UB?

Corporation/Assembly Line for production and Military?

Right now i have nothing to build except Military and the last National Wonder, the Iron Works.

 

[Ranfal Spectrum]

That sounds ominous...

 

[Stewie0416]

After IW, beef up your military. Those muskets aren't going to last very long with Infantry coming your way. Go Corp and AL THEN go for your UB. Actually, whats the point of the UB? Your happy cap is gone thanks to Globe, you're slider is already at 100%, I guess if it still gives you 1 food but is it really worth delaying Infantry?

 

[Killroyan]

The unique building in this case is not that hot. You have all the happiness from the GT. You are still making money so that is not important. Assembly line is far more important if you ask me. A coal plant and a factory will boost your production a lot. So go for it.

 

[timmy827]

I would prioritize Medicine first, Enviro will give some nice extra commerce on those preserves, and you can also convert your hills to windmills for a while until it's time to build SS parts.

Also recommend slipping in a couple spies. Espionage is usually rather annoying.

 

[Jabah]

The unique building in this case is not that hot. You have all the happiness from the GT. You are still making money so that is not important. Assembly line is far more important if you ask me. A coal plant and a factory will boost your production a lot. So go for it.

Agree with that except the coal plant part (a normal late hydro plant will do), since you have NP and no natural coal anyway.

I would beeline the Internet especially since you have several AIs with lots of techs above you.

I would also sell some tech (liberalism/paper come to mind) to clear around 2000g from the AI and possibly either buy some techs or upgrade some (experienced) units.

Also what was the point of building a colleseum in your 1462AD picture
If you have nothing left to build (seems like it from the very few possibility showing in the building area), I would prefer the cathedral (for the 2 priests slot), modern units (and disband a few archers if needed) or more likely build RESEARCH.

Good game and keep going

Jabah

 

[Joshua368]

The +1 food makes the Mall/Supermarket worthwhile but the +20% gold isn't bad either for unit upgrades and the inevitable upkeep from a large standing army.

On a side note things are looking good, feel free to switch all those priests and engineers to scientists whenever you don't have anything important to build!

 

[beestar]

Mad, what was the colosseum build for?

 

[Matthew5117]

I was wondering that. But I thought culture. Small amounts can be significant in a OCC.

 

[madscientist]

Honest Abe Loves New York!: Part V

Why a Colloseum! WHY A COLLOSEUM!!!!!!!

This is New York dammit, and what is NEw York with a Sport's Stadium! Damned, I would build two if I could!

Now onto the game.

I started by going against popular opinion this time, and took my own techpath

Electricity/radio/Assembly Line/.Industrialism/Combustion/Plastics and saved

There is something I want at Radio

But we start the segment with

Yes, as with the Agustus OCC game, Asoka is gifting us techs again! He did another one later.

We then made a few trades with hannibal

Some techs along teh Internet line, and some military. I started to spam ou Cavalry.

Meanwhile, the world decided to POOP on itself!

we stayed out of it and refused to get involved. By the end we have no true worthy friends except perhaps Asoka and Hannibal which I do not trust completely. Still we can certainly defend ourselves now if need be.

we got the random event for combat I cannons, and gave into this request

Hannibal is our biggest threat at this point and I want to keep him at least pleased.

we got a great random event giving us 1 extra population

And we made a bomb of a trade with Asoka

At this point, the Lincoln bank of techs has closed it's windows!

Because

Most techs are now duplicated by the Ais. Internet, here we come!

NOW, about researching radio so early this segment

I very much like the idea of swapping techs now with no anarchy, especially Free Market and State Property depending on whether we need that extra production.

Bit at the moment

I also like teh Cristo Wonder as it produces GE points. Note all our GPs this segment have been Great engineers or Prophets! PRODUCTION BABY!

well, we did make a minor trade

Doesn't really help us, but a bit of Diplomacy with Churchill.

We built another radio wonder

For the GM points.

And a view of our city after researching Industrialism

WOW, we got's Aluminum!!!!!!!!!!!

As you see we have also built up a strong fort system arround New York. I am in the process of dropping all sorts of units there, especially the Navy Seals!

And since we had the time

New York the Rock and Roll capital of the World!!! I traded all the hit songles arround to the leaders for gold. It also keeps the wonder out of Asoka's hands.

Speaking of Asoka

NOW that is a nice gift!

So we finished plastics and have a choice

I think the obvious choice is computers for the internet. we saved here. A view of our empire

Techs

Looks like we will get them all with the internet.

GLANCE

Not really loved much, but not hated. Believe me, there is ALOT of hate going around the world!

Victory conditions

We need to keep a slight eye on Asoka here

And

NEW YORK, NEW YORK!

It takes 2 turns to build the hydro plant.

However we saved hgere at

1776!

God Bless America!