Role Play Challenge, TNG: The Prophet M, Islamic Jihad!

This is pretty much the worst idea ever, to me anyhow.
I would never want to recreate such an awful happening.

o noes the poor little pixel people are going to get persecuted for their religion!

Anyways, spain's land is complete ass, handle the green giant over there first, creative borders are going to be a pain soon enough anyways and as long as you're a Jew Izzy will be buddy buddy. Tech construction and start spamming cats and eles, maybe wait for macemen and trebs, but maybe not. The faster you have the continent to yourself the better.
 
Prophet M: The First Jihad and Enlightenment

The Prophet M considers Arabia's situation and determines "Damned we are behind in tech". "Let us begin people by researching sailing, for I have begun to see and vision of things to come".

Meanwhile, The Prophet has called Sojouner Truth from his study

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"Soujouner! Called upon the heavens and discover theology so that we may train our soldiers of the faith in the arts of battle!" (Hey, I can really get used to this mutters the Prophet to himself, perhaps there is more to this religion thing).

Meanwhile the Arabs have sent another settler along the river to found Najran in the jungles of the north

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This city was The Prophets main reason to research sailing. But after sailing Monarchy was the next tech he needed as he had bigger plans. In fact, he had a vision of the Divine being bestowing his power and charge to the king of the land, "Yes the Prophet announces, we need a king before we have the Divine Right". So the Arabs research Monarchy next, as they convert to theocracy and start ammassing an army on the western border.

Once Monarchy is done we start researching Currency and Alphabet to right our economy and promote further research. This was done without event and when we started Code of Laws for courthouses, the Jewish Princess has given us a good trade offer

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Meanwhile the Ethiopian moves further ahead in tech and become a danger to the Arab people, and more importantly a threat to the Prophet's well being.

A new Prophet named Mani arises in mecca

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And the Prophet directs him to pray and ponder the mysteries of Divine Right so Prophet M can lead the Arab people with the Divine ones blessings! There is till much more to research and The Prophet directs the Arab people to finish it off.


We dropped an enormous stack of swords/jumbos/swords and miscellaneous support units on the Ethiopian border.


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Declared war on Zara and got the Jewich Princess to join us



we took the first city easily, then captured the Capital of Ethiopia

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Which took the startch out of this tech monsters research!. We accepted peace for 10 turns. Then reinitiated hostilities

Our Holy army was split into 2

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And managed to take both cities

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which we kept, but

The second city

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Being the Christian Holy city was burned to the ground!

As the Holy city fell and Arab troops regrouped to keep the attack up, we finished

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Leading to

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The Prophet has gone to the Mountain to recieve guidance. He come back a changed and determined man! "ARAB people, the world must turn to this new religion Islam! I am your Prophet and all the world must join us! Let the holy Jihad against the heathen Ethiopian Christians continue!!"

However, being pragmatic the prophet offers this trade to Isabella

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And THEN adopted Islam as our state religion. It is a long road for the Muslim people friends, as even the first free missionary failed to spread the new religion to Mecca. So we have Medina as the holy city and we soon need some Missionaries. But first the war.

we adopted Vassalage

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Keeping civics to produce a brutal army here.

The northern Barb city culture flips to us

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While we continue to expand eastward at the expense of the ethiopians.

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With no vassal option, and brutal war, and a Jewish Princess who is merely cautious now (Oh how love can change so fast with new religious convictions!) we decided to save here.

we are closer to eradicating the Ethiopian infestation

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Leaving Spain in a small corner of the world

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Still a wild animal is most dangerous when cornered!

Finally demographics show

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That we are not doing so hot.

So here we are, the Prophet has adopted Islam and has a large task of spreading the new faith while righting the economy and eliminating the Crazy Ethiopian and Jewish Princess.

If thre is a bright side, alot of Great generals have been born overseas so I expect Charlemagne/Montezuma/Justinian/Suryavarman are not really sitting around playing cards with each other.
 
Let not fear dissuade you from your convictions! Your foes may have bigger and better weapons on their side, but they lack your fanati... er, faith! The holy people of Islam must take to the waves, and soon! If Isabella is having second thoughts about your courtship, take her as your bride by force! The sooner you pacify your continent, the sooner you can erase the other continent's tech lead with the purifying flame of... righteousness!
 
Nice going there Mad. I think that attacking Zara first is the key to winning this map. Attacking Spain while letting Zara tech wouldn't be smart. Tech Engineering and Guilds and wipe the Jewish princess off the earth then go meet some new heathens.
 
Make the minaret ASAP.

Its the easiest and quickest way to get out of an economic crisis with the amount of cities you have.

Let one of your bigger cities stamp out missionaries by the float, and you will see it doing wonders :)

Also you should definitely consider getting one more GP, what is a holy city without a holy shrine!
 
I'll think about that as wel next time I play England and want to spin off a colony.

And I, too, will think about it when I attack any other civilization for any reason whatsoever.


By the way, Mad, I love this idea for an RPC. I'd never heard of RPC's before today, and I've already looked through a few of yours. Excited to watch this one happen during the action. :goodjob:
 
Make the minaret ASAP.

Its the easiest and quickest way to get out of an economic crisis with the amount of cities you have.

Let one of your bigger cities stamp out missionaries by the float, and you will see it doing wonders :)

Also you should definitely consider getting one more GP, what is a holy city without a holy shrine!

I'm surprised Mad let that tasty Stone just around the corner slip to Isabella. Pyramids, Minaret, Angkor Wat, Sankore, Walls/Castles, what's there not to like when you have extra Priest slots and cheap Temples (and aggressive AI)?
 
Make the minaret ASAP.

Its the easiest and quickest way to get out of an economic crisis with the amount of cities you have.

Let Izzy build it, that's much more efficient :D

Let one of your bigger cities stamp out missionaries by the float, and you will see it doing wonders :)

That surely should read 'military' ;)
 
Nice going there Mad. I think that attacking Zara first is the key to winning this map. Attacking Spain while letting Zara tech wouldn't be smart. Tech Engineering and Guilds and wipe the Jewish princess off the earth then go meet some new heathens.

I agree this was correct, but researching calendar at 1000 AD and without Metal casting is tough. A long way to go, let's hope the agressive zealots elsewhere are very slow. Maces and crosssbows are what I am missing, and I think CG III longbows on the border with the Jewish Princess is essential as those archers do not cut it!
 
Najran is off the coast, was that on purpose?

As I sent the settler north the Barb city popped up blocking access to the see. Still an excellent city site even with a few 1 food coast tiles.
 
And I, too, will think about it when I attack any other civilization for any reason whatsoever.


By the way, Mad, I love this idea for an RPC. I'd never heard of RPC's before today, and I've already looked through a few of yours. Excited to watch this one happen during the action. :goodjob:

Be sure to look at Drunken Viking Scum under the Classic RPCs! One of my proudest Moments. REX Queen cathy also had her moments, and of course the final Khan game may be considered my signature!
 
I'm surprised Mad let that tasty Stone just around the corner slip to Isabella. Pyramids, Minaret, Angkor Wat, Sankore, Walls/Castles, what's there not to like when you have extra Priest slots and cheap Temples (and aggressive AI)?

You are probably right here, but I had my eye on the Jihad angle. I considered the Oracle but really wanted to avoid the wonders path here.
 
The Prophet M: The End of Christiandom

A red glow has begun to show in the prophet's eyes as the fanaticism and belief od the new Islam faith has begun to strengthen the Arab people. "Death to the Ethiopian the Arab people scream, death to the blasphemer."

"Patience my Children, mountains were not built in a day!"

The Arabs capture the next coastal city

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And seek peace as the technology situation is horrible and frankly we need a little peace. Let the Jewish Princess continue to weaken the Christian King.

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SO we managed to get an important tech in MC sometime after 1000 AD. Yes these aggressive zealots certainly know how to mess up the techrace! At teh save noone has Liberalism yet!

Now MC was a crucial tech as it opened up this trade

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Allowing the Prophet and his Arab zealots to change civics

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And we started to research Machinery while building the Spiral Minerat in Mecca, very fittingly! We also began spreading the new faith of Islam from Medina, a very long process.

We soon met the Confuscian Fanatic

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Given he loves Theocracy we actually have some diplomatic chance here. So right away

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He turns pleased and we open borders. Perhaps we may be able to settle on simply shipping galleons full of Islam Missionaries to Byzantium. He has far fewer cities than us but his tech rate is overall higher. Time will tell.

Now the Jewish Princess is no longer that pleased with the Prophet once he discovered his new faith and came making some demands

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we seriously thought of telling her to stick it, but she is needed right now and the Ethiopian needs to be eliminated first.

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Rather than proceed down the traditional paper/education path we went after Engineering followed by starting Guilds. Sure everyone else it but it's necessary I think.

The Christian Fanatic kept reciting CAtholic literature at us, threatening us with elaborate ritual masses, a life of spouseless devotion for our priests/priestesses, and ever growing colelction plates looking for free money. He actually resorted to threatening an inquisition, and the Prophet showed him what he thought of that.

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We got a very useful random event

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Combat crossbows for a protective leader. Considering the Jewish Proncess has no horses or elephants the Prophet has a vision that these units may be extremely useful in the near future.

But that is for times to come, for now Mecca has finished

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Which helps very little right now as we do have to spread the state religion more and build temples/monestaries. Still the foundations have been laid, now if we could only get paper also to get the University of Sankore.

Now the Jewish Princess was rather ticked at us as she was still fond of the Ethiopian, plus we adopted OR to get the wonder out. However, upon adopting theocracy again and getting this event

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Gets the princess back in good favor with us (or us in her good favor!).

Meanwhile, our army kept getting replacement catapults and some buff MAcemen to speed up the assault on Ethiopia

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Zara went running from seiged city to seiged city chanting religious retoric at the valient Muslim Jihadist warriors falling on his city walls.

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There goes his mystery iron source, ending the threat of those nasty Pikes to our magnificent War Elephants.

Soon Zara is down to 2 cities

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As we finish

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Protective walls/castles for the border cities and we are beginning trebuchets

Soon Zara is isolated form the outside world

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And we leverage this engineering trade

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Yeah I know, giving the Jewish Pricess here famed mighty citadels, blah, blah, blah. What is a holy Jihad against the Spanish here with storming the mighty citadels. Our Jihadist soldiers need a path to reach glory in the beyond!

The end of the Christian kingdom was soon at hand

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The arab soldiers brought the former Ethiopian king to the Prophet, "What shall we do with the dog!"

The prophet stroked his beard and thought, "Zara I give you a choices, either climb the tallest mountain in my kingdom and cast yourself off the top, or go and agree to be the consort of the Jewish Princess to the south." The Prophet was devious thinking a way to finally get rid the Princess's advances once and for all, however he was surprised to see the Ethiopian suddenly bolt and run towards the mountain. Noone ever heard from him again!

Unfortunately with the loss of Zara, once again the Jewish Princess started looking our way

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we refused and continued building our maces/trebs/jumbos/crossbows as well as courthouses and anything else to bolster our defences. And while Justinian appears to be a good friend he does have astronomy and I need to strengthen those coastal cities, perhaps send a caravel or two out to find what other faithes are being dicsussed around the world.

We saved here with still 21 turns away from Guilds and our knoghts

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Normal logic is to research what our rivals do not have, but this is a jihadist RPC and damned I want my knights which will be very useful against a horseless/jumboless Spanish kingdom.

The Islamic empire is rather large.

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And our cities are starting to rebuild although the economy will crash soon with all the needed military needed to take out Isabella.

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49 turns right now for the next Great prophet to shrine Islam, and yes at all costs we need a shrined Islam in this game!
 
Mad, a couple of things:

1- You have an extra priest slot in Mecca. IIRC, it will make the prophet come in 36 turns.
2- There's a city with Islam building a Monument. Switch it to Temples and Monasteries, you have the Minaret.
3- Medina is working a plains forest while Mecca is not working its Marble on a hill. Make Medina work it and you'll get your missionaries faster.

BTW, the end game will be very interesting.

Edit: Has the AP already been built? It's a nice wonder to have here.
 
How do you plan on converting a whole other continent that probably has a tech advantage on you?
 
How do you plan on converting a whole other continent that probably has a tech advantage on you?

Supp. As noone has Liberalism yet, I expect the tech rate is abysmal. Justinian is COnfusian leaving Monty/Sury/Charlemagne as the Buddhist/Hindu founders and I expect there is not much love or tech trading amongst them.

Right now Justinian is pleased and has open borders, so a series of Islam missionaries may be in order there and who knows, he may convert peacefully. Unlikely, but hell the Prophet is basically a peaceful guy, providing you see the true path.

The bottom line is the number of cities we have, with more to come as soon as I can take Isabella out. With knights and Jumbos she should be easy considered she has NO mounted units. The only propblem is that Madrid mu be razed, but so is life (and death). I plan to spread the faith a little more tonight.

Joe
 
Prophet M: Fall of the Jewish Princess

The Prophet set about rebuilding the Arab empire after the massive Ethiopian wars. There was much to do and building an economy is of prime importance. Walls/castles were constructed because of speed and the extra trade route, an extra priest was used in Mecca to speed along another great Prophet, courthouses in cities without them, spreading Islam, constructing islam buildings (SPiral Minerat) and of course a massive military buildup along the Spanish border.

While doing this the Prophet M had a visit from a new leader

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Who does not like us very much, followed by

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Who also does not like us.

And finally

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Who appears to be getting slaughtered by the massively large Charlemagne. Sury and Justinian are at it a bit, but neither has an edge.

I do recall the entire techpath but I believe it went

Guilds/Gunpowder/Chemistry/start steel.

IN an attempt to get Arabia past 20% science during the 1500's we managed to pop

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Rabbi Akiva! Apprently he was a religious leader in Spain and got tired of Isabella's demands (and likely amorus advances), so he adopted Islam and came to Arabia to construct

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Which helped our economy, but not as much as we really need.

We managed to get some trade bait

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The problem with Justinian as a friend is that he is cheap as hell. Not much to do as we definitely need a friend and my guess is one day Byzantium is going to be overrun by Holy Romans (which will likely overrun Arabia if we do not step on the techpace).

The map was useful and shows a rather crowded continent

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As a whole it is smaller than ours, so even if Charlemagne conquers all we may be able to out tech him (yeah right, wishfull thinking). Anyway, Charles the Buddhist has basically conquered all of Aztecia and almost all of Khmer by the save. Teh Prophet M is no fool and he knows what he must do...

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Sad to do this as allies are limited in this game, but the onyl chance for the Arab people here is to control the entire continent before Charles get's his.

Isabella's seige weapons are dangerous but teh extra withdrawl from the Camel archers
help.

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As we take Barcelona next we notice

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Ah Monty, your barbarric agressiveness is no match for a determined Zealot!

Being I had alot of eps towards ISabella I used them to reduce the culture defense before an attack, greatly speeding along the conquest. We reached Madrid

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Ah, the cursed RPC rules, but it is a valuable city.

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Is the Prophet a pragmatic man and absorb the Jewish Holy city into Islam????

He actually considered it friends, but when he heard that the were secret tunnels that only Isabella knew about he burned the city to the ground: shrine, wonder, settled GPs and all! We also kileld several spanish settlers attempting to rebuild and we are close to finishing our own settler to claim it.

Our army stormed east along the cold southern coast with fiery Jihadist intensity. At the same time we finished

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Givenw e have 1 friend who likely has to help us defend against the crazed Holy Roman, we settled for

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I feel alot more secure if Justinian has a chance to get grenaders to confront Charlemagne later.

Isabella is finally cornered in her last city

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"She is alive?" The Prophet asks surprisingly and rather disappointedly.

"Yes sir, once the city fell she threw herself on the ground begging for mercy. What shall we do with the Jewish heathen?"

The Prophet considered this carefully. He wanted to be rid of her yet he had a fear ever her ghost would continue to pester him.

"Have her placed in one of our caravels and send her as a missionary to the other continent. Surely the best weapon to take down an empire is to send a Jewish Princess."

I saved here after a turn to right the cities (we had ALOT of unhappiness this turn but ignored it).

Tech

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OK, we have chenistry over Charles and on the path to finish steel. I say we trade Steel to cheapo Justinian for what we can, particularly replaceable parts and maybe more. We should also get horses to Justinian as he will likely need them.

This plan assumes that Charles will hit Justinian next after killing of Sury.

The cities show we have alot of potential here, just a matter if we can get something done.

And of course we need to begin constructing a navy to "Gift" a bunch of Islamic Missionaries to Justinian. Unfortunately Charles will not open borders so the faith spread there must be via the sword or a whole lotta caravels with missionaries.

The demographics

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Charlemagne is truely becoming a frigthening force.

The save will follow later tonight.
 
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