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Amenhotep7
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I beat Carrhae. Quite the Pyrrhic victory, but I won. And it was a little easier than suspected...
wow, Amenhotep7.
I did not deem it easy, in my first attempt I charged the Parthian General with my 2 Cavalries, and all got wrong - the right decision is to keep the Horse Archers running away.
I paused often and changed target and after my Legionaries dealt with the Cataphracts, then the Horse Archers ran away.
Are there other historical battles of this caliber? It was hard - I had no harder battles in RTW so far.
I did not deem it easy, in my first attempt I charged the Parthian General with my 2 Cavalries, and all got wrong - the right decision is to keep the Horse Archers running away.
I paused often and changed target and after my Legionaries dealt with the Cataphracts, then the Horse Archers ran away.
Are there other historical battles of this caliber? It was hard - I had no harder battles in RTW so far.
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I did play on easy difficulty, you know. But it's freaking hard either way. Is it even possible to beat on hard?!
The strategy I used was, drive off all Horse Archers with my cavalry (they won't engage in hand-to-hand) They'll be out of range of your Legions, so you can take them out of Testudo formation and put them in Guard mode. Some of your legions aren't attacked in the initial charge, so use them to gang up on the Cataphracts. Eventually, many bodies and much frustration later, you should win. Don't lose patience when chasing them. Remember, they have limited ammo, so eventually they have to attack you, where your heavy cavalry general's bodyguard will overrun the lightly armed fancy-schmancy Horse Archers.
I haven't managed to beat Gergovia. Help with that, anyone?
I did play on easy difficulty, you know. But it's freaking hard either way. Is it even possible to beat on hard?!
The strategy I used was, drive off all Horse Archers with my cavalry (they won't engage in hand-to-hand) They'll be out of range of your Legions, so you can take them out of Testudo formation and put them in Guard mode. Some of your legions aren't attacked in the initial charge, so use them to gang up on the Cataphracts. Eventually, many bodies and much frustration later, you should win. Don't lose patience when chasing them. Remember, they have limited ammo, so eventually they have to attack you, where your heavy cavalry general's bodyguard will overrun the lightly armed fancy-schmancy Horse Archers.
I haven't managed to beat Gergovia. Help with that, anyone?
I must admit I don't understand you Longasc. Of course the AI has no idea on how to use pikes (Move as little as possible) but in multiplayer those pikes are nasty! Very few troops can survive a head on attack against Amoured Hoplites or Sacred Band.
I do not know storealex, I did some tests with Cavalry charging permanently, always head on, into Hoplites.
I tried it with Standard Cav and Hoplites in this thread, and I tried it later on with Spartans and Sacred Band Cavalry.
Spartans are cool Infantry vs. Infantry, but I doubt their usefulness! All Cavalry works surprisingly well, but it should not.
Advantages are high speed compared to slow speed and the surprinsingly HIGH vulnerability of all those units against arrows - even the Testudo does not help that much, as one would suppose.
Come one, hitting phalanx troops in the flank, rear or sides or pepper them to death with arrows is not really a problem.
As you can see, I favor Cavalry and its ultra-strong charge attacks. I wonder what will happen if I will play Parthia (Cataphracts, Horse Archers...) or the Seleucids with their incredible range of quality troops.
Silver Shield Pikemen are among them, too. One of the best units for slow AI bashing. Just want to tell that winning a battle with Cavalry is usually 5 times faster.
Detailed discussion should occur at www.totalwar.org - I am not playing Rome right now, my Carthage Campaign has come to the point of more micromanagement then fun. I wish the 3d battles had - the higher speed is not even the issue - more tactical depth.
I am sure you have already had dozens of 10000000 : 1 kill ratio wins on medium or hard. I play on hard, very hard is a bit like Sid, the AI gets obscene boni, but players have shown that Cavalry is still good enough to break their morale and rout even Romans.
I tried it with Standard Cav and Hoplites in this thread, and I tried it later on with Spartans and Sacred Band Cavalry.
Spartans are cool Infantry vs. Infantry, but I doubt their usefulness! All Cavalry works surprisingly well, but it should not.
Advantages are high speed compared to slow speed and the surprinsingly HIGH vulnerability of all those units against arrows - even the Testudo does not help that much, as one would suppose.
Come one, hitting phalanx troops in the flank, rear or sides or pepper them to death with arrows is not really a problem.
As you can see, I favor Cavalry and its ultra-strong charge attacks. I wonder what will happen if I will play Parthia (Cataphracts, Horse Archers...) or the Seleucids with their incredible range of quality troops.
Silver Shield Pikemen are among them, too. One of the best units for slow AI bashing. Just want to tell that winning a battle with Cavalry is usually 5 times faster.
Detailed discussion should occur at www.totalwar.org - I am not playing Rome right now, my Carthage Campaign has come to the point of more micromanagement then fun. I wish the 3d battles had - the higher speed is not even the issue - more tactical depth.
I am sure you have already had dozens of 10000000 : 1 kill ratio wins on medium or hard. I play on hard, very hard is a bit like Sid, the AI gets obscene boni, but players have shown that Cavalry is still good enough to break their morale and rout even Romans.
It sounds like we have two different versions of the game
The Testudo for an example, the only thing that can destroy such a formation at distance is Onagers using fire. I've seen five units of archers shooting at a Testudo for a very long time, I didn't loose a single legionnaire to them.
About cavalry against Pikes, it's really a matter of the AI being stupid. But even then, quality troops standing i Phalanxs formation will kill half the horsemen in their initial charge, and even more as you weel around in order to charge again.
In multiplayer I've beaten the best enemy cavalry, with Pikes in a circle and lot's of elite archers and onagers behind them.
The Testudo for an example, the only thing that can destroy such a formation at distance is Onagers using fire. I've seen five units of archers shooting at a Testudo for a very long time, I didn't loose a single legionnaire to them.
About cavalry against Pikes, it's really a matter of the AI being stupid. But even then, quality troops standing i Phalanxs formation will kill half the horsemen in their initial charge, and even more as you weel around in order to charge again.
In multiplayer I've beaten the best enemy cavalry, with Pikes in a circle and lot's of elite archers and onagers behind them.
Has anyone figured out how the trade works?
What effect does a trader/roads/port have on income?
When I play the Jullii, Arretium and Ariminum are always in debt, and Patavium too. It seems that as a city gets bigger, they cost more to upkeep and they make losses.
Any idea anyone?
What effect does a trader/roads/port have on income?
When I play the Jullii, Arretium and Ariminum are always in debt, and Patavium too. It seems that as a city gets bigger, they cost more to upkeep and they make losses.
Any idea anyone?
Clito, I share your worries, but I can help you:
Your biggest city will always produce -1000 while your tiniest village with a port will produce +1000.
How can this be?
The reason is: Troop upkeep is divided up according to townsize.
Towns grow larger, but their productivity and income are closely tied to Ports, Markets and stuff like that.
So their overall productivity increases not as fast as their population -> negative income, even if this city nets you half of your armies upkeep (exaggerated example).
Also be aware that SQUALOR is basically what corruption is in Civ3 and grows with large city sizes considerably and you can do not really much against this.
But still do not be afraid of you best cities producing negative income -> it is a bit hard to get used to, but as long as you are breaking even on the financial advisor screen, you are doing fine!
Your biggest city will always produce -1000 while your tiniest village with a port will produce +1000.
How can this be?
The reason is: Troop upkeep is divided up according to townsize.
Towns grow larger, but their productivity and income are closely tied to Ports, Markets and stuff like that.
So their overall productivity increases not as fast as their population -> negative income, even if this city nets you half of your armies upkeep (exaggerated example).
Also be aware that SQUALOR is basically what corruption is in Civ3 and grows with large city sizes considerably and you can do not really much against this.
But still do not be afraid of you best cities producing negative income -> it is a bit hard to get used to, but as long as you are breaking even on the financial advisor screen, you are doing fine!
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Does anyone know how to beat Gergovia? It's super-difficult.
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is that the historic battle? THe sieging-the-gauls one?Amenhotep7 said:Does anyone know how to beat Gergovia? It's super-difficult.
I tried. Very hard. HOw about trying to split up your troops? 1 larger division attacking the larger Gauls and one smaller division attacking the smller Gauls
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That was my first approach. Maybe I could just rush to the gates and try and break it down before they utterly annihilate me...
That was my first approach. Maybe I could just rush to the gates and try and break it down before they utterly annihilate me...
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Exactly. I do have ram. You start off with the ram. I got more rammage than you could shake a stick at.
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So you do have a ram?Amenhotep7 said:Exactly. I do have ram. You start off with the ram. I got more rammage than you could shake a stick at.
I really doubt seiging the city will work. While your beating away at teh gates (might take a while) the enemy will be charging your legions, thus your getting slaughtered and thier losing nothing.
Not so effective, ya think?
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Yeah, but... It's a ram...They're like, super-cool, ergo invincible...
Yeah, I'm stumped as to what I should do...
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