chriseay
The Master Trader
I vote for bob. Not time for more than that today. 
Ruff02 - Concurrent Succession Game
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radiopill
Tyrant
pholkhero said:hmm..i like the progress i made and the musket & the beginnings of a gren army. Perhaps my tech choices were off, but we can use the military tech adv to conquer another civ or two quickly to get close enough to diplo-dom (like the dinosaur). Knupp did well, but i don't like El-Amerna being kept, however, he got a city or two more than i did. I also didn't use the whip at all, so that is available to the next player if they'd like.
i hate to do it and "Pull a Radio"i will vote for myself.
Pholkhero: votes for Pholkhero
[the above is for your cut&paste pleasure]
also, here's my save if anyone wants to look around.
I vote for Pholk too...
knupp715
King
I'm voting for myself because I think I made the most war progress. A lot of infrastructure builds are coming in plus printing-press to help improve our economy. We just need to build up an army and take out Germany.
knupp715
King
Also, I'm not too good at write-ups explaining every little thing I did so here is my save if anybody would like to check it out.
ruff_hi
Live 4ever! Or die trying
Oh goodie - we have a tie. Did I mention the tie break method? No, well, in the event of ties, the save with the highest score is the winner. In this case, Bob's save had a score of 1874 while pholkhero had a score of 1923. So we play on from pholkhero's save.
Here are the two groups ...
Group 1
bobrath
Mutineer
radiopill
Ruff_Hi
Group 2
knupp715
pholkhero
chriseay
And the save to download is back here.
Here are the two groups ...
Group 1
bobrath
Mutineer
radiopill
Ruff_Hi
Group 2
knupp715
pholkhero
chriseay
And the save to download is back here.
radiopill
Tyrant
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bobrath
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Well, I suspect I ran middle of the road here. Hatty is prepped for her final demise. We're right in the tech race. We've got some good work on wonders (national and world).
I switched civics at the very start of my turns to Slavery for application of
and nationalism to help our happy problems (and reduce the civics cost). In turn 0 I then applied the to multiple cities and got all sorts of builds done asap.
I trade Liberalism for Guilds, a world map, and 60g with Peter. Everyone else had guilds, so I just picked the one tech that others had and made it work for us.
A couple quick defeats for Hatty:
and I check what she'll give us for peace. She has three cities... and will give us one plus her world map. Since none of our units are even close to her new homeland and WW will just hurt, I take the offer of peace. We get a tiny fishing village in the very artic south. My bet is we may lose this city once we declare war again, so I'm not to worried about it. I do get a workboat out of it for the crabs and if it survives, the lighthouse may turn it around.
Tech wise, we researched or traded for Military Tradition, Guilds, Banking, Printing Press, Astronomy, and Steel. We're six turns out from Sci Meth completion (racing for the free Great Scientist). When Astronomy came in, I made trades for gpt with all the other civs I could. Easy 9gpt there.
Bismark has Replacable Parts (and will trade it for Chemistry) and HC has Economics, but won't trade it. No sense in trading for either one at this time.
In the south, here's what we're facing from Hatty:
And our forces (newly upgraded ships):
So in the first turn or two of the next set, it should be a pretty quick rollup of Hatty's forces. I've kept an eye on her and there have been no more expansions. Removing her will make us all feel better, her old homeland is pretty thinkly ours at this point.
I do have two small stacks set up for upgrading or use:
Here's the quick shot of our world:
Only Alexandria is lacking Buddhism for us. We're currently running HR, Free Speech, Slavery, Decentralization, and Organized Religion. HC is in the early part of GA.
Forbidden Palace completed in the far south of our original contienent. West Point will complete when you press enter in Karakorum (site of our Heroic Epic). Versailles is 20 turns our in Pi-Ramses.
We popped one Great Scientist and I used him to speed our research on Steel.
That's about it. We're set up for taking Hatty out. Who we go after next is fairly open. Bismark is the closest and easiest, but he's also our best friend (no negatives). HC is the second most powerful, and we'd have to cross an ocean to get him. I suspect Alex should probably be next due to his proximity to our south (and thus closeness of our military). We do need to crank out some military for the next big invasion, but I don't think we need any builds asap for the short term. Mostly builder mode for me (with building happening at the end of the as often as cities could bare it).
Uber Boring Auto Turn Log
I switched civics at the very start of my turns to Slavery for application of
and nationalism to help our happy problems (and reduce the civics cost). In turn 0 I then applied the to multiple cities and got all sorts of builds done asap.I trade Liberalism for Guilds, a world map, and 60g with Peter. Everyone else had guilds, so I just picked the one tech that others had and made it work for us.
A couple quick defeats for Hatty:
and I check what she'll give us for peace. She has three cities... and will give us one plus her world map. Since none of our units are even close to her new homeland and WW will just hurt, I take the offer of peace. We get a tiny fishing village in the very artic south. My bet is we may lose this city once we declare war again, so I'm not to worried about it. I do get a workboat out of it for the crabs and if it survives, the lighthouse may turn it around.
Tech wise, we researched or traded for Military Tradition, Guilds, Banking, Printing Press, Astronomy, and Steel. We're six turns out from Sci Meth completion (racing for the free Great Scientist). When Astronomy came in, I made trades for gpt with all the other civs I could. Easy 9gpt there.
Bismark has Replacable Parts (and will trade it for Chemistry) and HC has Economics, but won't trade it. No sense in trading for either one at this time.
In the south, here's what we're facing from Hatty:
And our forces (newly upgraded ships):
So in the first turn or two of the next set, it should be a pretty quick rollup of Hatty's forces. I've kept an eye on her and there have been no more expansions. Removing her will make us all feel better, her old homeland is pretty thinkly ours at this point.
I do have two small stacks set up for upgrading or use:
Here's the quick shot of our world:
Only Alexandria is lacking Buddhism for us. We're currently running HR, Free Speech, Slavery, Decentralization, and Organized Religion. HC is in the early part of GA.
Forbidden Palace completed in the far south of our original contienent. West Point will complete when you press enter in Karakorum (site of our Heroic Epic). Versailles is 20 turns our in Pi-Ramses.
We popped one Great Scientist and I used him to speed our research on Steel.
That's about it. We're set up for taking Hatty out. Who we go after next is fairly open. Bismark is the closest and easiest, but he's also our best friend (no negatives). HC is the second most powerful, and we'd have to cross an ocean to get him. I suspect Alex should probably be next due to his proximity to our south (and thus closeness of our military). We do need to crank out some military for the next big invasion, but I don't think we need any builds asap for the short term. Mostly builder mode for me (with building happening at the end of the
as often as cities could bare it).Uber Boring Auto Turn Log
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ruff_hi
Live 4ever! Or die trying
I've just noticed that I am in the first group - I thought I was in the second. Please vote on these three and I will play in group 2 - sorry all.
I would to put some comments about civic use.
I can not check how it is for everyone else, but IN my save all AI are in Mercantenilism. That mean that our cities do not have any foreign trade routes. Merchantenilism, especially with representation give mach more then Free markets.
In addition, we now have twice as many cities as our nearest competitor.
That mean our competitor will pick up the best our cities to trade with and will have very lucrative trade routes, when we probably do not have enogth foreign cities to trade even if we can trade with eveyrone.
In this situations it is mach better to close your market by Using Mercantenilism. Not only it is better for as, but it slow down our opponents.
Now, Free speach or burocracy. If you count, we do not have that many villages and towns. Our capital on other hand has best collection of money/sci building then any other city of our empire. So, Burocracy is still better for as then free speach. It will change when more villages/towns will come online, but right now burocracy still better.
I can not check how it is for everyone else, but IN my save all AI are in Mercantenilism. That mean that our cities do not have any foreign trade routes. Merchantenilism, especially with representation give mach more then Free markets.
In addition, we now have twice as many cities as our nearest competitor.
That mean our competitor will pick up the best our cities to trade with and will have very lucrative trade routes, when we probably do not have enogth foreign cities to trade even if we can trade with eveyrone.
In this situations it is mach better to close your market by Using Mercantenilism. Not only it is better for as, but it slow down our opponents.
Now, Free speach or burocracy. If you count, we do not have that many villages and towns. Our capital on other hand has best collection of money/sci building then any other city of our empire. So, Burocracy is still better for as then free speach. It will change when more villages/towns will come online, but right now burocracy still better.
ruff_hi
Live 4ever! Or die trying
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bobrath
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Mutineer said:
Interesting stuff. Helps me understand the use of that civic. I never understood why giving up foreign trade routes would be worth the specialist increase. Thanks mutineer!
Regarding saves... I'm not sure which is the best, partially because I'm not sure where we go next. Are we going to pursue domination/conquest or some other route? If we go aggresive, where do folks look to head for the next target?
bobrath said:
My save were developed with intention to go to domination.
Riffles next and drafted riffles + greens will give as bissmark in no time.
He has a lot of mounted units, so, riflles will protect our stack and they are good in taking cities.
Hatty is dead, so, it is just matter of rebasing army, drafting riffles, trade for Astronomy and whipping some frigates.
radiopill
Tyrant
I vote for Mutineer's save:
-best use of civic
-best management of the war (peace for guild was really good, and I don't why I didn't even think about it...
)
It's enougth for me...
and thx for the comments about mercantilism, I have never look at it this way...
-best use of civic
-best management of the war (peace for guild was really good, and I don't why I didn't even think about it...
)It's enougth for me...
and thx for the comments about mercantilism, I have never look at it this way...
knupp715
King
I'm voting for Mutineer's save as well for reasons stated above. He played well.
Ruff_Hi (Updated) said:
pholkhero
Deviant Mind
yes, mutineer's save is the best...as my father always told me, "Son, you can't ignore a dead Hatty!"
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