Old n Slow
Emperor
I go out of town for the weekend and the world sees dramatic change -- maybe I should do this again!
Nice work team!
Nice work team!
Rule By Might: A stay in Despotism Succession Game
- Thread starter Prof. Garfield
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Try your best to get Adam Smith, the savings will be very helpfull. It is not a max priority, there are better wonders, but cash will probably be something of a problem, especialy whan we run out of demanded goods, or need lux.
Old n Slow
Emperor
Save for now, log tomorrow.
Old n Slow
Emperor
Were strong/spotless (for now), have a half dozen items of infrastructure to support, 7 wonders, and too few camels, settlers and dips. We do have some space to grow into -- and should look into that (after the next set of wonders are in place.)
Rush a market for Tarsus; shields added for settlers in Pers & Arb (both planned to go the Tarsus) Toggle to 5.0.5 45 beakers a turn at current rates.
1300 (1) drop off a camel for 76. Toggle to 0.5.5 (lets see if we can get Tarsus to celebrate -- looks like it; lets see if it makes a difference.)
1320 (2) -- Celebration (for just Tarsus) is underway -- toggle to 0.4.6 & look at 65 beakers/turn.
1340 (3) -- Arbela settler merges into Tarsus -- now size 6. Toggle to 1.3.6, (+9-7 = 2 net coins/turn) 78 beakers/turn.
[Largest = Romans/Japanese/Vikings/Persians/Aztecs/Mongols/English -- maybe their two front war has an effect here.]
1400 (6) -- Pers settler arrives & merges into Tarsus -- now size 7. Toggle to 0.4.6 to keep the celebration going (81 beakers/turn) Give Theo to Egypt hoping for a gift in return -- nope. Were now Moderate/Spotless. Talk to Mongols & swap Poly for Sea; buy a harbor for Tarsus.
(English discover Invention -- start Leos. they also trade with Vikes (who start Leos -- Az gets via GL & starts Leos) Silk (d) Gord to Teo = 136.
1420 (7) -- Danish espies Eng. boat+ offshore -- switches Settler to Cruc & rushes completion.)
1440 (8) -- Discover Phy & opt for TG over Bank, Chiv, Mag, WC, Wh (most of which are available through other civs. -- Mag ends the LH era & it would be better to accept that advance after a set of Leo upgrades.) Swap Phy for Inv with Az.
1480 (10) Toggle to 4.4.2 -- want a few extra coins for camels & wonder building.
1500 (11) Sam Silk (d) to Tex = 306 (now thats more like it!) Seng blocked gold there as well for 78 (nobody else locally wants it.) Dip pops a hut for 100g.
1510 (12) Found Jinjan
1520 (13) Discover TG opt for Gun over AT, BB, Chiv, WC (all but AT are avail elsewhere) hut = Legion (Bactra)
(Eng discover Gun -- hmmm a target for a dip activity -- but well need to learn the other techs that the English know so that the theft will be what were studying now )
1540 (15) Antioch builds Leos (Eng & Vikes abandon, Az switchs to JSB.)
Notes -- we have a bunch of camels in the central area -- can easily get Bachs in a couple of turns -- since the Aztecs have been working this for a while recommend that we do this ASAP -- maybe even cash in some of the commodity camels (there are a number of food camels for wonders in the mix, but almost half are goods for trade.)
Three settlers are making their way east -- (now near Sam) I had thoughts of their irrigating the trees around Tarsus (someday) and having the two None settlers irrigate plains as a priority. We also might want to fill out some of the gaps on our rock & maybe settle a couple of the nearby islands.
Tarsus needs an aqueduct -- looks like the food box is full.
Rush a market for Tarsus; shields added for settlers in Pers & Arb (both planned to go the Tarsus) Toggle to 5.0.5 45 beakers a turn at current rates.
1300 (1) drop off a camel for 76. Toggle to 0.5.5 (lets see if we can get Tarsus to celebrate -- looks like it; lets see if it makes a difference.)
1320 (2) -- Celebration (for just Tarsus) is underway -- toggle to 0.4.6 & look at 65 beakers/turn.
1340 (3) -- Arbela settler merges into Tarsus -- now size 6. Toggle to 1.3.6, (+9-7 = 2 net coins/turn) 78 beakers/turn.
[Largest = Romans/Japanese/Vikings/Persians/Aztecs/Mongols/English -- maybe their two front war has an effect here.]
1400 (6) -- Pers settler arrives & merges into Tarsus -- now size 7. Toggle to 0.4.6 to keep the celebration going (81 beakers/turn) Give Theo to Egypt hoping for a gift in return -- nope. Were now Moderate/Spotless. Talk to Mongols & swap Poly for Sea; buy a harbor for Tarsus.
(English discover Invention -- start Leos. they also trade with Vikes (who start Leos -- Az gets via GL & starts Leos) Silk (d) Gord to Teo = 136.
1420 (7) -- Danish espies Eng. boat+ offshore -- switches Settler to Cruc & rushes completion.)
1440 (8) -- Discover Phy & opt for TG over Bank, Chiv, Mag, WC, Wh (most of which are available through other civs. -- Mag ends the LH era & it would be better to accept that advance after a set of Leo upgrades.) Swap Phy for Inv with Az.
1480 (10) Toggle to 4.4.2 -- want a few extra coins for camels & wonder building.
1500 (11) Sam Silk (d) to Tex = 306 (now thats more like it!) Seng blocked gold there as well for 78 (nobody else locally wants it.) Dip pops a hut for 100g.
1510 (12) Found Jinjan
1520 (13) Discover TG opt for Gun over AT, BB, Chiv, WC (all but AT are avail elsewhere) hut = Legion (Bactra)
(Eng discover Gun -- hmmm a target for a dip activity -- but well need to learn the other techs that the English know so that the theft will be what were studying now )
1540 (15) Antioch builds Leos (Eng & Vikes abandon, Az switchs to JSB.)
Notes -- we have a bunch of camels in the central area -- can easily get Bachs in a couple of turns -- since the Aztecs have been working this for a while recommend that we do this ASAP -- maybe even cash in some of the commodity camels (there are a number of food camels for wonders in the mix, but almost half are goods for trade.)
Three settlers are making their way east -- (now near Sam) I had thoughts of their irrigating the trees around Tarsus (someday) and having the two None settlers irrigate plains as a priority. We also might want to fill out some of the gaps on our rock & maybe settle a couple of the nearby islands.
Tarsus needs an aqueduct -- looks like the food box is full.
Seems pretty good, though I have yet to look at the save. A thought: we might want to try for Etower, we will need to trade techs with the others, and a good atitude will help very much. It will also giv us a bit of backstabing leeway, if the Aztecs want us to go to war. The tower is usualy useless, but as we need co-operation, every little bit helps.
0: Sell baracks (no one was using it), put camels to JSB.
1: Romans develop chemistry
2: Zohak (Az. lands) builds setts, begin court.
3: Nothing
4: Sidon court.
5: Arbela builds Bach's, Aztecs change to Asmith (goodby Asmith)
6: Eng get Navigation; Romans get Eco and begin Asmith. Gift from Az? They grow low on patients.
7: Nothing
8: Az get demo and gun(gl). Susa dye gives enough for incite revolt oxford. Take gun. Alliance with england for trade and war with japs. Trade Mono for Bridge Building, trade maps for maps.
9: Japs get chivalry. We go for steam. Build Arat. Tyre silk(d 366).
10: Vikes get gun. Tarsus dye(d 356).
11: Romans get demo. Japs get BrB, cur. Vikes get Chem. Mongols get chiv, bank, gun. We get steam, go for explosives. Pasa dye(d 164)
12: Romans get gun, vikes get demo (trade). Oxford walls. Tarsus silver(d435).
13: Eng steal feud (cancel aliance). Bactra silk (d 270)
14: Vikes begin SoL. We get explosives, go for met. Hut barbs (killed enginere).
15: Mongs get inv, Eng. Vikes get poly. Japs get Gun. Smarma gold (nd 96).
Cpature Osaka with musket. You should get a caravle next turn. Pound the Osaken coast with the vet Irnclads next ot it. They sould even be able to beat non fortified muskets. I am building camels with tarsus, build one turn, rush 30, finish next turn.
1: Romans develop chemistry
2: Zohak (Az. lands) builds setts, begin court.
3: Nothing
4: Sidon court.
5: Arbela builds Bach's, Aztecs change to Asmith (goodby Asmith)
6: Eng get Navigation; Romans get Eco and begin Asmith. Gift from Az? They grow low on patients.
7: Nothing
8: Az get demo and gun(gl). Susa dye gives enough for incite revolt oxford. Take gun. Alliance with england for trade and war with japs. Trade Mono for Bridge Building, trade maps for maps.
9: Japs get chivalry. We go for steam. Build Arat. Tyre silk(d 366).
10: Vikes get gun. Tarsus dye(d 356).
11: Romans get demo. Japs get BrB, cur. Vikes get Chem. Mongols get chiv, bank, gun. We get steam, go for explosives. Pasa dye(d 164)
12: Romans get gun, vikes get demo (trade). Oxford walls. Tarsus silver(d435).
13: Eng steal feud (cancel aliance). Bactra silk (d 270)
14: Vikes begin SoL. We get explosives, go for met. Hut barbs (killed enginere).
15: Mongs get inv, Eng. Vikes get poly. Japs get Gun. Smarma gold (nd 96).
Cpature Osaka with musket. You should get a caravle next turn. Pound the Osaken coast with the vet Irnclads next ot it. They sould even be able to beat non fortified muskets. I am building camels with tarsus, build one turn, rush 30, finish next turn.
Old n Slow
Emperor
Some good deliveries -- and JSB (maybe INC next?) 
INC? I can usualy figure out the short hand, but this one is beond me.
golem
Warlord
To fight or not to fight? Thats a question.
I decided to take some Japs cities not to weak them, but to have some better contact with them. Our dips will like it.
1, 1700 nothing
2, 1710 Osaka conquered, 89g, Banking, Vikings changed to Democracy, Aztecs abandon AdamSmith
3, 1720 Contact Aztec, change Magnetism, Economics, conquered Izumo 78q, Engineering, Hut 100g
4, 1730 Caravan Tehotinuacan 260g,
5, 1740 Arbela build AdamSmith., Roman changet to Statue of liberty, Dahyanus founded
caravan Tlatelolco 345g, bampur founded
6, 1750 Caravan, Aztec, 208g
7, 1752 - Caravan, Aztec, 260g
8,-1754 Isaac Newton build in Tarsus
9, 1756 nothing
10, 1758 Tureng Pepe founded
11, 1760 Caravan Aztec 144g, 66g
12, 1762 Caravav to trsus 22g, Aztec 204g
13, 1764 Railroad
14, 1766 doing Railways everywhere, caravan Shimonoseki 12g. Trade with Japs is nonsense.
15, 1768 nothing special
I decided to take some Japs cities not to weak them, but to have some better contact with them. Our dips will like it.
1, 1700 nothing
2, 1710 Osaka conquered, 89g, Banking, Vikings changed to Democracy, Aztecs abandon AdamSmith
3, 1720 Contact Aztec, change Magnetism, Economics, conquered Izumo 78q, Engineering, Hut 100g
4, 1730 Caravan Tehotinuacan 260g,
5, 1740 Arbela build AdamSmith., Roman changet to Statue of liberty, Dahyanus founded
caravan Tlatelolco 345g, bampur founded
6, 1750 Caravan, Aztec, 208g
7, 1752 - Caravan, Aztec, 260g
8,-1754 Isaac Newton build in Tarsus
9, 1756 nothing
10, 1758 Tureng Pepe founded
11, 1760 Caravan Aztec 144g, 66g
12, 1762 Caravav to trsus 22g, Aztec 204g
13, 1764 Railroad
14, 1766 doing Railways everywhere, caravan Shimonoseki 12g. Trade with Japs is nonsense.
15, 1768 nothing special
Good work. I never thought that we would end up getting Asmith. Espionage will be good to get soon. Then all we need to do is to set up a city on a hill or mountain near a good resercher, defend it very well and steal techs from them. "Never do for yourself what you can have soneone else do for you."-Garfield
We should follow that advice
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We should follow that advice
.Upon looking around, I noticed that the Japs don't have city walls. I checked out the inteligence, and found that they don't have masonry. Their continent would be very usefull for a rail/ferry system to bring trade goods down south. I also wonder about Hover's posible effectivness on our producton, as our posible places for factories probably won't be that high, due to waste...
Old n Slow
Emperor
First the save. (Thought I posted this a day ago & was late with the log...)
Old n Slow
Emperor
A short log.
1770 -- Gift from Az (Wheel) & Swap maps. Espy Xoch...
1772 -- Coal (d) Tarsus to Xoch = 172
1774 -- Found Merv. Nab Barb Leader = 150 (& Smack a couple of Japanese Knights.)
1778 -- Silk (d) Pers to Teo = 140
1782 -- Tarsus builds University. Discover Electricity, opt for Industrialization (over AT, Chiv, San, WC -- 3 known by others.)
1786 -- Barb Crux slays our Oxford Eng (Irrigated grass not good enough -- maybe refridge & farms?...Otherwise celebrations might work.)We love in Pasar.
Most Advanced = Az, Per, Rom, Vik, Mon, Eng, Jap. Put a market in Sardis
1788 -- Found Kandahar. Dak creates an explorer (vs musket -- 3 huts in reach over rough terrain -- not to mention the North pole...) Antioch silk (d) to Tlat = 224; two (n) camels = 76, 87. We Love in 3 more cities.
1790 -- Smack 3 jap cats; Hut = Dak Musket
1792 -- Steal Lead from Kyoto (Crux upgrade to Dragoons.)
1794 -- Found Altin Tepe. Hut = Dak Dragoons. Barbs land near Dar K. (rush a dip)
1796 -- Discover Ind, opt for Corp over comm, AT, Demo, Steel. Hut = 100g.
1798 -- (Az discover Conscription.) Barbs take Dar K (we lose 60g vs 886!) but we get greedy & bribe a Barb Knight (None) -- but they're both at risk from another barb knight. Make a bunch of deliveries.
Notes -- Placed an engineer between Dak K & B -- Just in case. I think I rushed another dip (but might have forgotton.)
1770 -- Gift from Az (Wheel) & Swap maps. Espy Xoch...
1772 -- Coal (d) Tarsus to Xoch = 172
1774 -- Found Merv. Nab Barb Leader = 150 (& Smack a couple of Japanese Knights.)
1778 -- Silk (d) Pers to Teo = 140
1782 -- Tarsus builds University. Discover Electricity, opt for Industrialization (over AT, Chiv, San, WC -- 3 known by others.)
1786 -- Barb Crux slays our Oxford Eng (Irrigated grass not good enough -- maybe refridge & farms?...Otherwise celebrations might work.)We love in Pasar.
Most Advanced = Az, Per, Rom, Vik, Mon, Eng, Jap. Put a market in Sardis
1788 -- Found Kandahar. Dak creates an explorer (vs musket -- 3 huts in reach over rough terrain -- not to mention the North pole...) Antioch silk (d) to Tlat = 224; two (n) camels = 76, 87. We Love in 3 more cities.
1790 -- Smack 3 jap cats; Hut = Dak Musket
1792 -- Steal Lead from Kyoto (Crux upgrade to Dragoons.)
1794 -- Found Altin Tepe. Hut = Dak Dragoons. Barbs land near Dar K. (rush a dip)
1796 -- Discover Ind, opt for Corp over comm, AT, Demo, Steel. Hut = 100g.
1798 -- (Az discover Conscription.) Barbs take Dar K (we lose 60g vs 886!) but we get greedy & bribe a Barb Knight (None) -- but they're both at risk from another barb knight. Make a bunch of deliveries.
Notes -- Placed an engineer between Dak K & B -- Just in case. I think I rushed another dip (but might have forgotton.)
0: Rush stuf.
1: Romans get Atomic Theory, and make peace with Japs. Disorder in Ghulhamin, peace with Romans, buy Dariush Kabir for 104g. Zohak Hides to Texoco (nd 10 (+3 trade)) Court in Osaka.
2: Mongols (Karakorum) build Statue of Liberty and switch to Demo. Az build ETower. Vikes, English, Romans and Mongols abandon both.
3: Nothing.
4: Zohak builds enginiers. Corp; go for Steel.
5: Pers gems to Coventry (d 210).
6: Mongs get sanitation, Vikes get steam from Mongols. Sneek attack from Romans. Bampur build Harbour; Herat build Court; Ixumo build Market; Civil disorder in; build Bunyan; build Charsadda. Hut: Rifleman.
7: Romans get Theo, and switch to Monarchy. Ergili build Court; Civil disorder in Borzjan. Barbs land near Sardis. Investigate Kyoto: 4 muskets. Az: conscrip for rail; electricity for San. Sardis silk (d 510).
8: Japs get mono; CivDis in Bampur.
9: Az get indust; Bampur build MPlace; Build Uratyube (or something like that).
10: Mongs change to fundy; Tyre Court; Gord Market. Steel, go for Refridge. Build Naples.
11: Chulanan gold (d 294); hut 100. Capture Kyoto get 12g and War Code. (Over chivalry, I build horsemen, so be shure to get chivalry befor auto, and watch our 20s horsmen grow into cavalry)
12: Mps with english; Cese fire with japs; Izumo walls; Disorder in Osaka & Kyoto. Jinjan silk (d 324) Tureng Tepe silk (nd 150).
13: Disorder in Dakyanus.
14: Mong & Vikes declare war; Vikes ger RR; Dakyanus Court; Tarsus factory, begin darwin.
15: Eng and Mong get Leadership; Japs get Mag; Barbs land near Chulaman. Roman Rep and get RR; Vikes begin darwin. Hut 100.
We should go for darwin, it will help. I would write more, but there is a thunder storm...
1: Romans get Atomic Theory, and make peace with Japs. Disorder in Ghulhamin, peace with Romans, buy Dariush Kabir for 104g. Zohak Hides to Texoco (nd 10 (+3 trade)) Court in Osaka.
2: Mongols (Karakorum) build Statue of Liberty and switch to Demo. Az build ETower. Vikes, English, Romans and Mongols abandon both.
3: Nothing.
4: Zohak builds enginiers. Corp; go for Steel.
5: Pers gems to Coventry (d 210).
6: Mongs get sanitation, Vikes get steam from Mongols. Sneek attack from Romans. Bampur build Harbour; Herat build Court; Ixumo build Market; Civil disorder in; build Bunyan; build Charsadda. Hut: Rifleman.
7: Romans get Theo, and switch to Monarchy. Ergili build Court; Civil disorder in Borzjan. Barbs land near Sardis. Investigate Kyoto: 4 muskets. Az: conscrip for rail; electricity for San. Sardis silk (d 510).
8: Japs get mono; CivDis in Bampur.
9: Az get indust; Bampur build MPlace; Build Uratyube (or something like that).
10: Mongs change to fundy; Tyre Court; Gord Market. Steel, go for Refridge. Build Naples.
11: Chulanan gold (d 294); hut 100. Capture Kyoto get 12g and War Code. (Over chivalry, I build horsemen, so be shure to get chivalry befor auto, and watch our 20s horsmen grow into cavalry)
12: Mps with english; Cese fire with japs; Izumo walls; Disorder in Osaka & Kyoto. Jinjan silk (d 324) Tureng Tepe silk (nd 150).
13: Disorder in Dakyanus.
14: Mong & Vikes declare war; Vikes ger RR; Dakyanus Court; Tarsus factory, begin darwin.
15: Eng and Mong get Leadership; Japs get Mag; Barbs land near Chulaman. Roman Rep and get RR; Vikes begin darwin. Hut 100.
We should go for darwin, it will help. I would write more, but there is a thunder storm...
you want this?
Around 12 hours later and the thunderstorm is over (if it wasn't I'd have been pretty concerned). DO NOT use the freight to build Darwin, the Aztecs are reserching Commi so the Freight is there to finish UN when it becomes available. You may want to get demo from somewhere, in order to get espionage faster. Of all possible cities, 12 out of 29 are celibrating. 40 lux is important, because of all the blackies; there is a city that has all happy people (size 4). You will notice that we have a factory, and there is one more place that could use one, but hasn't started building it yet.
Old n Slow
Emperor
Looks like we're getting ready to shift into third gear...
Yes, and chivalry is the key. My 20s horsemen will upgrade to 60s cavalry with leo's. Three for the price of one... It is hard to beat that! When I think about it, we are not using martial law in too many places to keep order. I had considered making Dariush Kabir & the other city a barb farm, but Dariush was in a far to good position too loose.Originally posted by Old n Slow
Looks like we're getting ready to shift into third gear...
golem
Warlord
Slow down boys. Pacifist general Golem did not want to start war against Japs - so Japs has started the war theirselves. Our Pearl Harbor is named Kyoto, where 8 dragoons units were killed.
But I have some good news too - we are curing cancer and our spies are the best in the world. UN is for democrats, not for the despots - just for short period I made embassies everywhere.
I have five more turns, so the results will be tommorow.
But I have some good news too - we are curing cancer and our spies are the best in the world. UN is for democrats, not for the despots - just for short period I made embassies everywhere.
I have five more turns, so the results will be tommorow.
golem
Warlord
1 1830 Exchange Chivalry, Democracy with Aztecs, gift 50g
2 1832 Darwin voyage Communism, Genetic engineering, no Espionage so I go for Atomic theory Romans have it. Freights 54g,94g, 420g
3 1834 Cure for cancer, Fr 318g
4 1836 nothing
5 1838 Japs broken peace treaty , Kyoto destroyed, a lot of death. Bribed Shinonoseki for 300g, 11 back
6 1840 Cease fire with Japs Bribed Jerusalem 330 g just for Atomic Teory Romans did not want to negotiate at all., Fr 94g, 130g
7 1842 Fr. 186g
8 1844 Espionage finally Made embassies everywhere, share maps with English, Mongols, Aztecs, Vikings. Romans and Japs war.
9 1846 Issus founded, Babs leader 150g
10 1848 Freights 372g, 184g, 260g, 108g, 176g, 82g, 94g
11 1850 Bribed Onu for 25g, Satsumi for 345g. Freights 22g,402g
12 1851 Refining,. Tactics not available. Aztecs Electronics., Fr 224g, 314g
13 1852 Freights 275g, 280g, 204g, 94g, 234g, 210g, Lutenia Revolt for 1425g , Combustion
14 1853 Exchange Electronics fot Genetic with Aztecs
15 1854 Japs broken cease fire, bribed Syracuse (disorder) , Peace with Romans Freights 94g, 78g, 152g, 130g.
We can go for Hoover dam in next turns. we have three factories currently. Techs go very slow - I think we should give some techs to our key civ. Tactics will be developed soon so if you want to fight good luck.
2 1832 Darwin voyage Communism, Genetic engineering, no Espionage so I go for Atomic theory Romans have it. Freights 54g,94g, 420g
3 1834 Cure for cancer, Fr 318g
4 1836 nothing
5 1838 Japs broken peace treaty , Kyoto destroyed, a lot of death. Bribed Shinonoseki for 300g, 11 back
6 1840 Cease fire with Japs Bribed Jerusalem 330 g just for Atomic Teory Romans did not want to negotiate at all., Fr 94g, 130g
7 1842 Fr. 186g
8 1844 Espionage finally Made embassies everywhere, share maps with English, Mongols, Aztecs, Vikings. Romans and Japs war.
9 1846 Issus founded, Babs leader 150g
10 1848 Freights 372g, 184g, 260g, 108g, 176g, 82g, 94g
11 1850 Bribed Onu for 25g, Satsumi for 345g. Freights 22g,402g
12 1851 Refining,. Tactics not available. Aztecs Electronics., Fr 224g, 314g
13 1852 Freights 275g, 280g, 204g, 94g, 234g, 210g, Lutenia Revolt for 1425g , Combustion
14 1853 Exchange Electronics fot Genetic with Aztecs
15 1854 Japs broken cease fire, bribed Syracuse (disorder) , Peace with Romans Freights 94g, 78g, 152g, 130g.
We can go for Hoover dam in next turns. we have three factories currently. Techs go very slow - I think we should give some techs to our key civ. Tactics will be developed soon so if you want to fight good luck.
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