Rule Proposal for turn progression.

[Tubby Rower]

KISS won't vote again. It's silly to re-run the vote. You've achieved > 66% that is needed to amend the rule. What you might not have is a quorum. Just because two teams abstained doesn't mean NO. It just means that we either don't care if it is changed or not or for some other reason we chose not to pick a side.

KISS had a unanimous vote to abstain.

 

[Tubby Rower]

5.2.2 - Procedure

An existing rule may be amended or removed after successfully receiving a two-thirds (2/3) majority vote of all remaining teams, which shall be defined as those teams still participating in the current games as well as those teams still eligible to compete in the final game.

There is nothing about a quorum. But I think that since everyone voted, we would have had a quorum.

All that it says is a 2/3 majority vote. Hypothetically, if TNT voted no and Doug H. Nuts voted yes then it would only be 50% and no rule change. But since both of you voted yes then that is 100%. Abstentions are just that "abstain from voting".

 

[Bootstoots]

That rule states that a 2/3 vote of all remaining teams is required, so abstentions and failures to vote count the same as no votes.

edit: Maybe, however, you could repoll this in your forum, assuming that your team thought an abstention would not be counted as such.

 

[Provolution]

All right, then it passes with 100 %, since there is no quorum in the rules.
As we pass this, I may suggest we introduce a 75 % quorum rule for reference.
That could be a separate proposal.

Additionally, Abstain should not be a camouflaged no, it is simply Abstain from voting.


The rule passes.

 

[Tubby Rower]

Additionally, Abstain should not be a camouflaged no, it is simply Abstain from voting.

OMG, I agree with Provo??? something must be wrong. I'm going to go get re-calibrated.

Sorry Bootstoots, if that was MIA's understanding of abstain, then it's up to Regent to see if you can vote again. But it really wouldn't matter if MIA votes no it's still 2/3.

 

[Bootstoots]

I agree that abstain shouldn't be a camoflauged no, but the way it's worded now, it unfortunately is. I think I'll make a rule proposal shortly to change that situation.

BTW, I'm with Doughnut, but would favor an MIA repoll if they want to.

 

[Whomp]

Assuming this has passed, how many times can this happen before a penalty kicks in? I am against a rule that is subjective when there's a penalty attached.

 

[RegentMan]

In light of recent events, this rule amendment has passed with a 2 yes and 2 abstain vote. Abstain does indeed mean "abstaining from voting," and hope that this ruling establishes that.

Here's how the rule reads now:

6.0 - Turn Progression


6.1 - Time allowed for a turn

Every team has a maximum of 24 real world hours to play its move and to send the save. This does not mean, that every team must use all 24 hours.


6.2 - Extensions to time limits

6.2.1 - Limitations

In some cases a team is allowed to take more time for a move:
a. If the request is announced in time, which means before the requesting teams turn limit has expired, and if the game staff deem it reasonable.

or...
b. Technical problems, like a downed forum (verified by the game staff).

6.2.2 - Authority

The Game Staff will determine how much extra time is appropriate for the situation, if any.

6.3 - Sending the Save Game

6.3.1 - Mailing

Each team turnplayer is required to send the save to the citizens on his team via email, unless they do not want it. A thread entitled "Save Game Mailing List" will be put up in each forum. Each citizen who posts his/her email in that shall receive the save game upon its arrival in the mailbox of the team turnplayer.

A copy of sent save games will also be sent to the admins via email to the following addresses:
ale.of.ginger AT gmail DOT com (Ginger_Ale)
TitanicWhiz18 AT comcast DOT net (RegentMan)

6.3.2 - Notification of Playing
Immediately after the save has been played and e-mailed to the proper people, the team's designated player must notify the MTDG community by posting in the designated "Turn Tracker" thread.

6.4 - Passwords

Do not give out your passwords! The only time the password should be given out is via email along with the save game (to the citizens on the save game mailing list). The password for the save given out by the admins is confidential and random, and should stay that way.

@Whomp - You don't need to worry about punishments. A team will need to not post in the thread multiple times in order for one to be warranted. I understand that people make mistakes.