Saladin No cottages Immortal

started on sci methods in 7 then biology, that's what I suggest
 
My opinion will be to do Burst of Draft riffles to protect our stack from mounted units.
For initial stage of war I would advice to advance in 2 stack.
First small pure riffles stack to absorb cats and mounted contrattack followed by main stack.
 
I think the rifles will probably end up becoming our main attack unit, Spanish forces seem to be all conquistadors and they get defence bonuses. If we spawn another GM we can upgrade a few old maces, if not I think it's best to just push ahead with technology and train/draft new troops.

A Globe draft centre would be very useful especially with Biology our next goal, we should build that somewhere.
 
Well, right now I think isbella is the only problem. We have weakened fred and qin so they wont be a problem. An d I think we can get the domination land without having to invade asoka.

I agree with biology and drafting a crapload of rifles. We have a chokepoint near isabellas land and AI is horrible in dealing with those.
 
Mutiner -
uberfish -
ThERat -
Qwack - up
Open - an other brave soul

No one else was brave enoght.
 
I need a skip. I am having trouble with my wireless internet connection (again). I went out today and bought a 50 foot ethernet cable, but im still getting the same result(The connection is on but nothing is working). This computer which is connected straight into the modem right now seems to be working fine, but I cant run civ4 on it, and its impossible for me to get my other computer to work until I can fix my router/buy a new router. sorry..
 
Heh, you can just use memory stick or disk to tranfer save and picture may be. It is only 300K or soo.
 
OK, In order to keep it moving.

Turn 0
Whiped all build buildings, exept in capital.
All new production set to military units.
Revolted to Nationalism/theocracy.
Start draft strating with our core cities, as the most remote from front.
Set sci to 0 as I probably will do a little upgrading and it is better to research in burocracy and after more units and Oxford is build.
Turn 4, one turn untill revolt posible.
Whiped all milithary units been build.
Next build set to happiness buildings mostly.
Turn 5 Revolted to orgonised religion.
We will need some Nationalism happiness and a bit more draft posible.
Turn 6, nothing left to draft.
Declared war and moved trops in.
Previous war wareness hit in, 10% slider.
Turn 6 Isa answer will huge stack of Conquestadors/Riffles/cats.
20% slider
Turn 7 on defence kill a lot of cats/conquestadors
Turn 8 move next to Barselona
Sufer more attacks
Clean up secondary stacks and lonly one's
Turn 9
Bombard and took Barselona. Our main attack stack havilly damaged.

Turn 10
Slider 40%
Whiped courthouse in capital, may be will be good enogth to drop slider to 30%, may be not.

We have 2 armies
first, havilly damaded healing in Barselona.
Second blocking Isa in Bismark city.

I think Isa mostly broken now, Power graph provided.
May be it is time to whipe buildings, revolt to teocracy and start to build military again. You know me, I am figting wars with out building any units :)
 

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this sounds like a brutal turnset really, but that is what I am used to from you, mutineer ;)
 
In my opinion it is our only chance to take on Issy and become big engoth to be able to kill other minipowers and win this game.
I would suggest to press an attack and try to kill Issy as fast as posible.
I would probably ignore research for now and will not hesitate to use 60% happiness slider if nessesary.
 
Brutal to whom? I'm dreading to open this one up, every time I open up one of Mutineer's saves there's -10 happiness everywhere from draft/whipping :) I'll play it tonight if Qwack is still out of action.
 
Ok had some free time so I played it.

As expected our people aren't very happy thanks to Mutineer:



Whipped a few buildings on turn zero then switched over to theocracy so we can get more CR2 cannons, Beijing makes them in 1-2 turns each.

Culture to 30%, research turned on, heading for scientific method. We have a problem as Fred signed a defensive pact with Asoka, therefore we need to get a tech that Asoka doesn't have so we can bribe him to attack Toku again and cancel the pact. I don't like giving Asoka even more tech, but biology is not going to help him much since both him and Fred are almost 100% towns.

Sell Printing Press to Cyrus for 90 so he can research democracy for us, and give Qin nationalism for free since he asked.

Spent a couple of turns healing up and letting Spanish conquistadors suicide at Barcelona, then marched on Madrid.

It's down to 5 rifles and 3 cats and easily falls although it's still surrounded by Spanish culture.



Immediately move on to Santiago on the east coast, and send a 2nd stack out of the German city to take Cordoba. I send out our camels to pillage towns to fund our research.

Propping up Cyrus pays off:



Should probably have given him some other tech instead of the 90 gold, but never mind, we can sell him something else to get the cash back if we want. Revolt to free market.

Take Santiago and Cordoba, only notable losses a pair of CR grenadiers. Culture back to 40% and I have to whip Mecca for a bank to stop the citizens getting out of line again.

Scientific method -> biology. It's useful for us and useless for Asoka, and physics requires astronomy anyway.



Our troops are a bit spread out pillaging and some are healing up, but we should be able to move out next turn. There's a stack to the north to take out Salamanca. We need the pillage and loot from cities to research, and we also need to finish Isa quick and attack Fred before he gets infantry. I hired some specialists but even though we are the largest and most populous nation, our economy is no match for the AI's fully powered towns.



We have two great artists now, we don't need them in Spain, should use them as culture bombs in Germany. Hamburg needs a bomb once we take it, to stop it flipping to Cyrus. Maybe even bomb Munich now, Berlin's borders just expanded.
 
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Pre-Turn
ok, there are 4 Spanish cities left, that should be possible to take out really

1. 1705AD
take Salamanca, Spain down to 3 cities
march on to Toledo, but that is defended by quite a few units

2. 1710AD
pop artisit in Munich, borders do not change really
move next to Seville and Toledo,but both defended well
get corporation from Cyrus, but that doesn't change income at all due to lighthouse expiry

3. 1715AD
bomb Toledo's defenses down to 0
do the same at Seville

4. 1720AD
attack Toledo defended by 8 units
3 cannons soften the defense killing 2 units :) Toledo got no chance and we take the city

onto Seville with 7 defenders as well
as expected we only manage to kill 3 of them since we had not enough attackers there

5. 1725AD
attack Seville again with 3 remaining defenders
move towards Harappan, defended by 8 units and 2 grens to protect a resource

6. 1730AD
move towards Harrapan

7. 1735AD
a german revolt takes place in Cordoba, guess we nee to tkae them out after Spain

8. 1740AD
finally get biology
silver is online now
go ahead and attack full force on Harrapan. lose a mere cannon and the city is ours and Spain is gone



by the way, Germans are RR our territory for free, not too bad

9. 1745AD
lux back to 0%, going for steam and assembly line

10. 1750AD
India does not have bio, but Germany has
troops are healing in Toledo, we can then attack Germany from there and also from Munich once we gathered the

forces
 
Spain is dead, the players and lurkers rejoice!

I think we should use biology to bribe Asoka to attack Toku quickly and cancel that defensive pact, before Bismarck can trade. We can get 630 gold off him too.

I see the culture bomb in Munich didn't manage to take any tiles back, sorry for the bad advice :(

This round went really fast, let's wait for Qwack?
 
don't worry about the culture bomb in Munich, I guess we will take out Germany next and then the borders will pop a lot once we took out Berlin (that also means proper pillaging before we take the city).
Those camel riders are useless for fighting but great for pillaging.

I left the decision to bribe Asoka to the next player. We should do that to slow him down, he seems to be the only danger to our victory. Which victory are we going after? Cyrus and Qin are our good friends, but I doubt UN is a viable option.
 
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