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Scientists may have found Atlantis

farting bob said:
Ive whipped that movie from my memory since i deemed it offensive to my brain to store such crap.
You've gotta admit it's funny though!
 
Bozo Erectus said:
Well considering the Polynesians made immense ocean voyages not long after the period we're discussing, I wouldnt say its completely outside the realm of possibility.

Indeed. Google "Thor Heyerdahl" for details, Ra and Kon-Tiki specifically.
 
Yep and he didnt have a tenth the sealore that the ancient Polynesian mariners had.
 
Much earlier than that, Homo Erectus managed to cross small areas of treacherous ocean, after which they evolved into Hobbits. Seriously.
 
I watched a prgramme before where it showed some ancient cave drawings from Central America which show what look like European peoples on boats waving greetings to the indigenous population. I think the more you dig the more evidence there appears to be of a sea-faring early civillisation (whether Atlantis or not).
 
farting bob said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4153008.stm

So its a likely candidate for the real atlantis (if there ever was such a island), although its not exactly as plato descibed it.
So, to make this thread more lively, some questions for you all.
1. Do you think that Atlantis was a real place, based on a real place, or a story passed down generations and ended up with plato.
2. If you think Atlantis was real, is this really it?
3. How many radioactive monekys were lost when atlantis 'sunk'?

Hard to believe this is really Atlantis when the last candidate was the city of Acrotiri on Thera. I'd bet this isn't even close, because this island has no remains of human habitation.
 
Hehe. I remember posting a topic about Atlantis being Ireland. The responses were great! Heheheh.

Personally, I think the whole "Atlantis" thing is actually an amalgam of different events of history. The "sinking" of this island could be one ingredient of the "Myth Casserole", so to speak.
 
farting bob said:
1. Do you think that Atlantis was a real place, based on a real place, or a story passed down generations and ended up with plato.
2. If you think Atlantis was real, is this really it?
3. How many radioactive monekys were lost when atlantis 'sunk'?

1. I dont know. Possibly, however if the story is true how did everyone learn about it if there was no survivors. Anyway, if its true i hardly think plato would have given the story right.

2. I dont know. Possibly. Though isn't there a dozen "possible atlantis" out there.

3. None. Radioactive monkeys can swim.
 
1: I'm sure it existed, just it prolly SEEMED advanced to the people 12,000 years ago.
2: I think the better candidate is in the south Agean, can't remember the name.
3: 1 for every square kilometer.
 
Reallity -> Legend -> Myth. Standard for any event.
 
Homer was probably simply referring to Minoa, a wealthy island state on Crete, which reached a relatively advanced level of development, and dominated the Meditteranean before being devastated by a volcanic eruption. After that, civilization lapsed until Greece arose.

I think people just don't find it satisfying enough as an explanation - they've pinned too many fantastic hopes upon it and can't bring themselves to accept something so realistic and mundane.
 
frekk said:
Homer was probably simply referring to Minoa, a wealthy island state on Crete, which reached a relatively advanced level of development, and dominated the Meditteranean before being devastated by a volcanic eruption. After that, civilization lapsed until Greece arose.

I think people just don't find it satisfying enough as an explanation - they've pinned too many fantastic hopes upon it and can't bring themselves to accept something so realistic and mundane.

I don't know, the Myceanians had similiar technology, even though they kinda of stole from the minoans, but if they were so adavanced the myceanians wouldn't have defeated them. I think the minoans could have been influenced by atlantis or be a rival civilization, and they both got struck by devastating natural disasters.
 
vikingruler said:
I don't know, the Myceanians had similiar technology

No, the Mycenians were far less sophisticated.

if they were so adavanced the myceanians wouldn't have defeated them.

They were advanced in a different way. It's not like they had firearms or anything. Their weaponry is actually less practical than Mycenean weapons, but they were more advanced in other areas - shipbuilding, architecture, etc. They were a naval, trading power, whereas the Myceneans were primitive by comparison in the civic sphere, but much more warlike and militarily oriented. One theory is that the volcanic explosion caused a tsunami which swamped the Minoan fleet, which would have left them completely defenceless as they did not rely on ground forces for protection and had no fortifications.

The Myceneans civilization in Crete also died out due to another, more serious explosion which utterly shattered civilization in the Aegean ... after that is the "mini-dark age" in the Aegean from which civilization did not re-emerge until the Greeks.
 
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