7ronin
海軍少佐
Storm Grunt said:
I knew there was a reason you were in charge!
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I knew there was a reason you were in charge!
<politeness=on>So sorry, but you appear to have a certain tendency to repeat the sign, Kaigun-dono.
Apart from such distressing matters, I would also like to discuss the matter of certain improvements in the cities under our control. Perhaps the matter of mining facilities could be considered as a possibility. While obviously there can be no mines if there is no mineral vein nearby, also the local population cannot work on more than one mine, since that would cause too much distress among the inhabitants.
The Bakufu should of course include the caste system formalised by Tokugawa Ieyasu. Tokugawa-sama rightfully put the stinking merchants who feed off us in the bottom, like the impudent dogs they are! Their disrespect should earn them an inmediate beheading, yet their power is too great not to be taken into account. The power of the many zaibatsu should be taken inbto account for this map. <ploliteness=off>
phew! that really cost me!
sign, Kaigun-dono.Apart from such distressing matters, I would also like to discuss the matter of certain improvements in the cities under our control. Perhaps the matter of mining facilities could be considered as a possibility. While obviously there can be no mines if there is no mineral vein nearby, also the local population cannot work on more than one mine, since that would cause too much distress among the inhabitants.
The Bakufu should of course include the caste system formalised by Tokugawa Ieyasu. Tokugawa-sama rightfully put the stinking merchants who feed off us in the bottom, like the impudent dogs they are! Their disrespect should earn them an inmediate beheading, yet their power is too great not to be taken into account. The power of the many zaibatsu should be taken inbto account for this map. <ploliteness=off>
phew! that really cost me!
7ronin
海軍少佐
So what you're telling me is that I can't use the "mischief" smiley anymore?
Storm Grunt
Beware My Army
Tak - I'm having a hard time comprehending what your point is.
That´s the way daimyos used to talk in formal occasions, especially at a negotiations table. But 7Ronin got the point and that´s what matters. if, after making an effort, you still don´t understand, say so and I´ll repost it in plainer language.
I got a better idea about the Palace Gates.
The Palace Gates should be a strategic resource placed in Kyōtō. The Small Wonder that allows a space victory is the Imperial Mandate (if you are in control of the Palace Gates, you can request an Imperial Mandate for the post of Shōgun). If you are building your Bakufu but you lose control of the Palace Gates, then you can still win, but the others can still outrun you.
The Palace Gates should be a strategic resource placed in Kyōtō. The Small Wonder that allows a space victory is the Imperial Mandate (if you are in control of the Palace Gates, you can request an Imperial Mandate for the post of Shōgun). If you are building your Bakufu but you lose control of the Palace Gates, then you can still win, but the others can still outrun you.
Are we off to somewhere else, folks?Anyway, I got a new idea for experience levels:
- More life: They could perhaps go in a "difference of two" basis, so you´d have 2, then 4, then 6, then 8 HP. This really means that experience has more influence on battles.
- Flavor names: We could rename them to ashigaru (conscripts), goshi (regulars), hirazamurai (veterans), and finally hatamoto (elite). Of course there would be no daimyo since the daimyo is you.
7ronin
海軍少佐
Those are some excellent suggestions Tak. We will certainly have to give them due consideration. Has everybody gone? Of course not. We've just finished celebrating our national day over here so everything is quiet. Of course in my case I'm just a little miffed that the Shogun has forbidden me to use the mischief smiley. 
What can I use instead?
What can I use instead?
Storm Grunt
Beware My Army
@TAK - The fourth of July is independence day in the USA. We celebrate our independence from British rule with fireworks, parades,cook outs,and a lot of people go on vacations around this time....
@7Ronin - did you get the files I emailed to you? Were you able to open it OK? I've never tried to email anything that big before...
@7Ronin - did you get the files I emailed to you? Were you able to open it OK? I've never tried to email anything that big before...
Do you celebrate your national day 4 days after it happens? How odd!
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Two new ideas:
Factory-like improvements: I´ve thought also of mining activities, smelters, saké brewers, and the like. You would need the necessary resource (iron, saké, gold, perhaps silver, etc.) in the urban radius, and of course you couldn´t make more than one of them in the same city. A smelter/foundry/sword forger would require an iron mine in the city.
Wako Pirates: I put them as a 2/1/3 unit in my homemade mod, and used the longship anim. They have enslave, sneak attack, and hidden nationality. Cost= 60 shields. Requires: Sueijijutsu, Jade. I say they could be used by anyone, and there could be a "pirate nest" SW (only for coastal cities, requires a harbor) that spawns a wako every, say, 7 turns.
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Two new ideas:
Factory-like improvements: I´ve thought also of mining activities, smelters, saké brewers, and the like. You would need the necessary resource (iron, saké, gold, perhaps silver, etc.) in the urban radius, and of course you couldn´t make more than one of them in the same city. A smelter/foundry/sword forger would require an iron mine in the city.
Wako Pirates: I put them as a 2/1/3 unit in my homemade mod, and used the longship anim. They have enslave, sneak attack, and hidden nationality. Cost= 60 shields. Requires: Sueijijutsu, Jade. I say they could be used by anyone, and there could be a "pirate nest" SW (only for coastal cities, requires a harbor) that spawns a wako every, say, 7 turns.
Another idea: You should have separate religions as governments. it varies greatly whether you´re a Christian or a Buddhist, You can´t build a Buddhist shrine in the same city you build a Jesuit cathedral. It just doesn´t make sense.
Virote_Considon
The Great Dictator
How about the Buddhist temples give the usual happiness bonus, but the Christian churches auto-produce missionary units, that would act as support units, or even just slight annoyances?
I´ve had a flash: Re-reading Gai-jin, I´ve realized two important things about gunpowder weapons in Japan:
- With shore batteries you could close a strait like Shimonoseki, or defend islands like Tsushima...
- Japanners were poor gunmakers, so they usually imported firearms from Europe. If we made gunpowder tradeable from the Portuguese, we can make gunpowder weapons a real bonus and not a free-for-taking weapon as it currently is...
Storm Grunt
Beware My Army
I like the gunpowder Idea that should definitely go into the scenario.....
Any other way to represent foreign influence?
Of course, we should represent the appearance of Chinese and Korean culture (and armies, why not?).
Couldn´t a military goal just be to conquer Korea like Hideyoshi attempted? Or to defend yourself from Korean, Chinese and Mongol invaders?
Of course, we should represent the appearance of Chinese and Korean culture (and armies, why not?).
Couldn´t a military goal just be to conquer Korea like Hideyoshi attempted? Or to defend yourself from Korean, Chinese and Mongol invaders?
