SGFN-09: Constantinople stands alone!

[Sparthage]

Skip me please.

 

[Elephantium]

Bowsling, then.

 

[Bowsling]

Might be difficult. I'm up in a bunch of succession games, and likely won't be able to play in a while. Skip or swap please.

 

[Elephantium]

Okay, then, I think this is the new situation:

1: Overseer => Just played
2: Sparthage => Skip
3: DWetzel => MIA
4: Bowsling => Skip/swap
5: Elephantium => UP!
6: Charlemagne => On deck?

I'm also up in Rat42, so it might be a couple of days before I can play this one.

 

[Elephantium]

Pre-turn:

I look at CA II for culture. We need...
5 Stock Exchanges for Wall Street (300s, 2cpt, 1 under construction)
4 more Hospitals for Battlefield Medicine (500s, 1cpt)
1 more Army for The Pentagon (400s, 1cpt)
Economics for Smith's (600s, 3cpt)

Minimum of 18 turns away:
Computers for Research Lab (100s, 2cpt)
Computers for SETI program (1000s, 3cpt)
Fission for UN (1000s, 4cpt)
Fission for Manhatten Project (800s, 2cpt)

I'm going to switch builds to open up Wall Street ASAP, then research Economics and build Smith's.
2 turns to finish Hoover's
300s / 84spt = 4 turns to build Wall Street
600s / 84 spt = 8 turns w/prebuild to finish Smith's

With those, plus building the UN in 1500, we'll win in 1575.
I wrote up a spreadsheet to play with the numbers, and the best I could do was 1570 -- assuming we get at least one Leader in battle.

IBT:

Pollution at Const
Athens: Workers
Barcelona: Bank > SE

TUrn 1 (1355 AD):

Cav kills Greek LB
Move workers around, trying to improve our core.
Cycle through builds, changing several Libs to arty (they won't help in 90% corrupt towns)

IBT:

Aztecs proffor a WM trade. We decline.
Greek LB suicides vs. our Cav
Steel > Econ
Const: Hoover > Army, prebuild for Smith or Wall Street
Sparta: Worker > arty
Corinth: Workers
Santiago: Court > Duct
Salamanca: SE > Infantry
Ibabanago: Workers
Baruun-Urt: Harbor > Galleon

Turn 2 (1360 AD):

5 Cannons at Thessalonica - one damage. Okay, we'll try again next turn.

8 Cannons at Ephesus - 5 hits
Cav kills 2/4 Rifle
eCav kills redlined Rifle
Cav kills LB and takes Ephesus.

IBT:

Two Greek Rifles and one LB come into tiles around Ephesus.
Athens: Workers
Bapedi: Duct > Factory
Toledo: Factory > Bank

Turn 3 (1365 AD):

Cav kills Greek Rifle S of Ephesus.
Cav kills Greek LB N of Ephesus, promotes
Cav kills Greek Rifle E of Ephesus.

IBT:

Ottomans declare on the Mongols
Barbaropolis: Bank > SE
Salamanca: Infantry

Turn 4 (1370 AD):

Move all Cannon into one big stack next to Thessalonica.

IBT:

Athens: Workers
Thermopylae: WOrkers
Mycenae: Workers
Aztecs declare on us due to MPP with Greece.

Turn 5 (1375 AD):

Cannons redline Thessalonian defenders.
eCav kills Rifle
eCav kills Rifle and takes the city.

eCav kills stray LB near Delphi
eCav kills stray Rifle N of Delphi

 

[Elephantium]

Eeples, I lost track of this when no one commented after my midset post! I'll have the second half of my set posted tonight.

 

[Elephantium]

Spoiler :

Continued (sorry about the long delay) ...

Cycle Scientists to Taxmen and sell a Lib in hopelessly corrupt Ngome.
Short-rush SE in Barbaropolis and Barcelona
Short-rush Bank in Toledo

IBT:

Aztecs move out forces to attack us. They send ... a Swordsman and a Longbow. Our troops are terrified, especially when the LB suicides vs. our A-cav.

Econ > Combustion
Pollution strikes Constantinople
Madrid: Bank > SE
Barbaropolis: SE > Infantry
Seville: Factory > Uni
Toledo: Bank > SE
Intombe: Mkt > Uni

Turn 6 (1380 AD):

Cav kills Spear at Atzcapotzalco.
Cav kills Spear at Atz... promotes, and takes the city!
Oops, I razed it by accident - misclicked on the "raze" option
Rush Uni in Seville.
Sci slider at 80%, Combustion due in 5. (-40gpt)

IBT:

African city: Arty > Arty
Barcelona: SE > Factory
Corinth: Worker > Court
Seville: Uni > Infantry
Salamanca: Inf
Knossos: Worker > arty

Turn 7 (1385 AD):

eCav kills Spear at Tlacopan and gets a Leader! I'll use him on Wall Street once Smith's comes in.

IBT:

The Greeks want peace. They'll pay all their gold, but they won't cough up their govt. techs.

Pollution strikes Const again
Athens: Workers
Barbaropolis: Infs
Murcia: Factory > Uni

Turn 8 (1390 AD):

Short-rush two more Stock Exchanges.

IBT:

Madrid: SE > Uni
Toledo: SE > Uni
Salamanca: Infs
Herakleia: Worker > arty

Turn 9 (1395 AD):

Move Workers. I'm avoiding combat until our Leader is used up.

IBT:

D'oh! Aztec Horse catches a couple of un-covered slaves.

Const: Smith's > Wall Street
Thermo: Worker > Arty
Barbaropolis: Infs
Hlobane: Lib > Arty
Delphi: Workers
Santiago: Duct > Mkt
Ereen: Duct > Mkt

Turn 10 (1400 AD):

Rush Wall Street.
Kill two Spears in Tlacopan and take the city -- this time, I don't raze it.
Kill another two Spears in Malinalco and take THAT city!

Short-rush Uni in Toledo

Notes:

Oh, Murcia is about to riot -- I forgot to fix that before saving. Other than that, the war is going well; the Aztecs are on the run. We can make peace with Greece anytime .... I held off because they've been accumulating gold.

Research is closer to 6-turn than 4-turn. Some Uni builds in core cities should help with that. I've been disbanding new Infantry builds to help speed those along.

 

[CharlemagneXLII]

Easy to lose track of, isn't it? I was scared for a moment when I saw the update, I thought I might have been supposed to play again. I'll take it within a week, but I'll give time for either Bowsling or Sparthage to take it if they can.

 

[Elephantium]

AFAIK Sparthage lost interest in Civ 3 (at least, I haven't seen any posts from him recently), and Bowsling just got back from vacation -- he'll probably need a few days to get organized. At this point, we're cruising to victory, with future culture builds taking 2-3 turns off the win date at most.

 

[alzgamer]

Lurker: The next player might just hit "NEXT TURN" 30-35 times.

 

[Elephantium]

More like 35-40

35 turns will be 1575 AD, and that was the "perfect luck" scenario in my spreadsheet. We're already guaranteed to take longer than that (though not MUCH longer).

 

[vmxa]

AFAIK Sparthage lost interest in Civ 3 (at least, I haven't seen any posts from him recently), and Bowsling just got back from vacation -- he'll probably need a few days to get organized. At this point, we're cruising to victory, with future culture builds taking 2-3 turns off the win date at most.

Sparthage is playing Civ5 SG's.

 

[Elephantium]

Charlemagne, are you playing?

 

[Bowsling]

I have it, I'm hoping to get it played within the week.

 

[Elephantium]

'k. I'll again on the 20th

 

[CharlemagneXLII]

A good plan.

 

[Bowsling]

I have played halfway, however, I won't have access to the save until Sunday or Monday. Not a whole lot has happened, but:
- Greece spent their gold! issed:
- The entirety of the continent is ours, with the exception of Ottoman-held Swazi.

 

[Elephantium]

Bowsling, could you post the save?

 

[Bowsling]

Here it is. Only five turns, unfortunately.

Spoiler :

Turn 0:
Hire a clown in Murcia to pacify the population

Shift production in Toledo to generate more food while still finishing
the university in one turn

Ditto for Salamanca, but on a smaller scale

Switch Barbaropolis for a hospital

Constantinople is one heck of a city!

IBT:
Greeks land a longbowman outside of Valencia Aztec caravel approaches Ibabanago


Turn 1:


Wall Street comes in, we are at +215 gpt now. Constantinople, with nothing else to,
starts a stock exchange

Athens worker>Worker

seville Infantry>Coal Plant

Toledo Unviersity>Infantry

Salamanca Infantry>Infantry

1st cavalry obliterates two spearmen without taking damage, and Tzintzunten is ours!

set a tax collector in athens so that we can actually reduce the Greek population

Turn down research in anticipation of Combustion

IBT:
Keshik succeeds in killing something in Swazi


Turn 2:


Combustion>Mass Production

Intombe University>Infantry

Ibabanago Worker>Worker

Ephesus Worker>Worker

Tula grew! We all know what that means!

Elite calavry takes two damage killing a spearman

Elite cavalry takes one damage killing a spearman, no leaders.

Tula is captured

We make peace with the Aztecs, obtaining 11 gold, 2 gpt, and their world map

Put science at 90%, bringing MP in in 4, with a deficit of 27 gpt

Switch Corinth to library to facilitate border growth

IBT:

Nothing


Turn 3:


Madrid University>Hospital

Murcia University>wealth. That brings in 11 gpt

Asturias Library>Worker

Greece spent all of their gold! issed:

I shell Eretria to try and convince Greece to give up communism, causing the
Aztecs to break the truce and declare war

Cavalry army takes 4 damage killing a regular rifleman

8 additional cavalry isn't enough to hand over their precious Communist Manifesto

IBT:

we lost our supply of gems and silks


Turn 4:


Constantinople Stock Exchange>Army

Toledo Infantry>wealth

Salamanca Infantry>Infantry

Turned out Genghis was the one that didn't even renegociate our luxury deal.
I dial him up, am forced to look at his ugly face, and give wines, dyes and
economics for our luxuries back

Greece only made one gold this turn. It's time to pull the plug.

Artillery bombardment fails

Elite cavalry takes two damage killing a rifleman, and the city falls.
We get our well deserved one gold

Switch Seville to a Transport upon the realization that we built the Hoover dam

Switch Ereen from a marketplace to a library, since we our sliders are 0/9/1

IBT:
A Minoan barbarian kills a worker south of Mycenae!


Turn 5:


Barbaropolis Granary>Infantry

Seville Transport>Harbor

Mycenae Worker>Worker

Thessalonica worker>Worker

Ereen Library>Granary

Veteran Cavalry takes out Minoan, becomes elite, finds Minoan encampment

Another veteran cavalry claims our compensation of 25 gold

 

[CharlemagneXLII]

Got it, won't be playing by friday when I get internet.