SGOTM 01 - V Q
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ChrTh
Happy Yule!
bobrath said:
Yeah, but no matter what he does, someone's bound to gripe at him
...unless he moves 1E, in which case we'll all gripe at him!
namliaM
Deity
Hmz, Hey Maquis, ....
What did you go and download the save for? Now we really have to get serious
My name is namliaM and I am SGOTM addicted
What did you go and download the save for? Now we really have to get serious
My name is namliaM and I am SGOTM addicted namliaM
Deity
Sorry I dissagree...bobrath said:
33 turns to explore in the first set == 66 (max) moves.
Lets say average it out to 50. On each move the Scout reveales 3 tiles. thats 150 tiles.
+ we have the original warrior to scout around a bit... So by turn 60 we have about 200 tiles visible. Must be a good 2nd city spot in there somewhere?
Trying these 2 starts was educational atleast for me... Looking back now I think I would do the start pretty much the same as in my first one. Maybe finish the Barracks before building the warrior.
Actually, Do we need the barracks at this point? Or can we skip that for now? Maybe its better to build a few unpromoted warriors (power in numbers) and to start a granary when Pottery comes in.
Another thing, settling SW and size 4 we allready hitting max Health... IMHO we would want to cottage another 1 or 2 FPs and mine that grass hill. But that is work for the
second worker if it were up to me....In both tests I did see some Barbs wondering around somewhere around 2290, but they didnt enter the culture boundry yet.
Yeah, I know... But that was my gripe... even before getting the turns started...bobrath said:
Wow lots has happened since I saw this thread last.
I must say I am glad I'm not Maquis. By the time I play we should be pretty set in our strategy I think.
Quick question when do we get the save for the SGOTM? Or is the save you guys mentioning the one that namliaM made?
As for the build, normally I would play worker first, but we have a possibility of an always war opponent that can be next to us. It would be nice if we build warrior first so we can use the first warrior to explore. If we went worker first, what would we do with the starting warrior keep it close by to our capital?
Since it seems we can get two techs before our worker will come out, what about getting two worker techs, like AH and mining, or AH and pottery?
I must say I am glad I'm not Maquis. By the time I play we should be pretty set in our strategy I think.
Quick question when do we get the save for the SGOTM? Or is the save you guys mentioning the one that namliaM made?
As for the build, normally I would play worker first, but we have a possibility of an always war opponent that can be next to us. It would be nice if we build warrior first so we can use the first warrior to explore. If we went worker first, what would we do with the starting warrior keep it close by to our capital?
Since it seems we can get two techs before our worker will come out, what about getting two worker techs, like AH and mining, or AH and pottery?
Maquis
King
Maybe I'll just play Moses and wander in the wilderness for 20 turns... now wouldn't get some
Maquis
King
Well since we've beat this to death... I probably won't have to post a turnset.. just refer to namliaM's post for dates! 
I guess I'm just too pumped for this, but I'll be playing ASAP... I should have the turns done tomrrow morning!
So is this going to be to page 7 before I take my turn??
I guess I'm just too pumped for this, but I'll be playing ASAP... I should have the turns done tomrrow morning!
So is this going to be to page 7 before I take my turn??
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
Don't forget to play VQ05 tonight ... you need to make sure your mind is clear for the SGOTM experience!
Maquis
King
@ChrTh: Take a look at the VQ05 thread... I am confused with what you uploaded...
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
Maquis said:
Already updated ... I was an idiot
This is weird, I'm getting some wicked deja vu here
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
Back on topic: Have we nominated a scribe yet for our team? Er, I'm not volunteering...
Maquis
King
I don't think we have yet... not sure that I would want to volunteer either...
Anyone?
Anyone?
Anyone?
Anyone?
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
I thnk its hood bee sumun wit gud rightin' sk1llz
GreyFox
Make it so ...
The I am definitely out!ChrTh said:
And I nominate ChrTH, by havig the most number of post count in this thread, and a by the sense of humor he displayed with the faking of bad typing ...
EDIT: Yeah, I am promoted to Emperor!
namliaM
Deity
I do like my first set, but am sure there can be improvements over what I did...
I would like to try a game where I put a civ close (say 10 tiles or so) and put us as war from the start. And see when he shows up and what happens....
I would like to try a game where I put a civ close (say 10 tiles or so) and put us as war from the start. And see when he shows up and what happens....
Maquis
King
And they're off!!
Ok I played the first 30... went mostly as we talked.
I think moving 1 SW was the right decision... Thebes looks pretty hot:
Stone!! Also rice for some more health.
Put a few turns into Barracks, and started scout when Hunting came in. Then put a couple more turns into Barracks until Thebes grew to 3. Started worker.
AH came in, started research on Mining. There be horses about! Just north of Thebes. good spot for our second city there.
Ok, the important parts... met on AI, Cathy. She is not our Always Peace partner. (I had the option to choose war or peace)
Ok, the east is totally blocked off by mountains. Tundra and seas to the north. Cathy had to have come from the southwest.
Turnlog, from the submission (Kinda cool, a mini-autolog!)
The save is here: [URL="gotm.civfanatics.net/saves/civ4sgotm1/VQ_SG001_BC3100_01.Civ4SavedGame" ]The Save
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Ok I played the first 30... went mostly as we talked.
I think moving 1 SW was the right decision... Thebes looks pretty hot:
Stone!! Also rice for some more health.
Put a few turns into Barracks, and started scout when Hunting came in. Then put a couple more turns into Barracks until Thebes grew to 3. Started worker.
AH came in, started research on Mining. There be horses about! Just north of Thebes. good spot for our second city there.
Ok, the important parts... met on AI, Cathy. She is not our Always Peace partner. (I had the option to choose war or peace)
Ok, the east is totally blocked off by mountains. Tundra and seas to the north. Cathy had to have come from the southwest.
Turnlog, from the submission (Kinda cool, a mini-autolog!)
Spoiler :
The save is here: [URL="gotm.civfanatics.net/saves/civ4sgotm1/VQ_SG001_BC3100_01.Civ4SavedGame" ]The Save
[/URL]
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
Mountain chain that completely blocks us off, huh? ... there be Incas?
Buddhism hasn't been founded yet, so we might have a good shot at monotheism if we beeline for it after mining ... is that what we want to do? Or do we want to start on, um, the quarry one, or maybe go with fishing->sailing? Or Pottery?
I'm thinking the worker should go to the cow first and pasture it (no need for a road), then W to the hill to mine/road, then W to the rice to farm/road.
BTW, I will be playing in about 11 hours time (20 turns, right?) ... so get your comments in now!
EDIT: Have we moved the warrior back towards Thebes? I'd like some protection for the worker, I think.
... there be Incas?Buddhism hasn't been founded yet, so we might have a good shot at monotheism if we beeline for it after mining ... is that what we want to do? Or do we want to start on, um, the quarry one, or maybe go with fishing->sailing? Or Pottery?
I'm thinking the worker should go to the cow first and pasture it (no need for a road), then W to the hill to mine/road, then W to the rice to farm/road.
BTW, I will be playing in about 11 hours time (20 turns, right?) ... so get your comments in now!
EDIT: Have we moved the warrior back towards Thebes? I'd like some protection for the worker, I think.
Maquis
King
Yes, he's fortified in Thebes. (You can see him in my screenshot of the city, it was taken at the end of my turnset)
Worker plan sounds good, cow - mine - rice. We'll want the health soon, as we will currently be unhealthy at size 5. Happyness will be the problem, as we will be unhappy at size 6.
Also, it didn't show in my screenshot, but there is silver to the far north. I think we can grab it in the same BFC as the city with horses. Sorry, I didn't think to take a better screenshot of the north for city planning. Hopefully ChrTh can (he won't get a settler out in his turn anyways)
With the access to stone, should we think of going for Pyramids? I think it's feesable on Monarch with the stone bonus. All we'd need is masonry after mining (ChrTh: that's the one that enables quarries)
I'm not sure if we could get to Monothism, since whomever got Hinduism would only need Masonry to get to it. We need Mysticism and Polytheism both before going for mono. It's a risk IMO.
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
Maquis said:
Whoops, yep, there he is.Definitely need a dotmap, I see some good spots but we'll need to study it. You're right, though, that we probably won't have a settler after my turns.
I knew that
... Pyramids would be nice, problem is it'll stunt our growth unless we build a settler first.Yeah, now that I think about it you're right. So we're thinking Masonry, then, what, Pottery? Bronze Working? Archery?
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