SGOTM 01 - V Q

[ChrTh]

Nobody will vote for Gandhi if he enters a PA with us, I think. So, the way I see it, our strategy should be:
(a) play nice with Gandhi with the aim of entering a PA;
(b) kill the rest to pursue the earliest Domination win, provided it does not interfere with (a), eg. killing friend of Gandhi; and
(c) if we have not won by the time UN is enabled, then build the UN and win by backdoor.

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Remember, you can't win a diplomatic victory with only one opponent. If we enter a PA with Gandhi that means there has to be two other Civs left at the end of the game.

 

[GreyFox]

Ok, correction then:

So, the way I see it, our strategy should be:
(a) play nice with Gandhi with the aim of entering a PA;
(b) kill reduce the rest to a faint speck of dust in pursue of the earliest Domination win, provided it does not interfere with (a), eg. killing declaring on friend of Gandhi; and
(c) if we have not won by the time UN is enabled, then build the UN and win by backdoor.

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[Maquis]

Whew... Turns done.

Too tired to get the full report out... I'll leave you with a teaser... I didn't dissapoint, and attacked Moscow head on.

I'll upload the full report in the morning.

 

[GreyFox]

I hate teasers!!!

But looking at the teaser, the sword was attaking with something like 89%? So, that means we should have won ... And there is a cat with near zero health, implying a successful withdrawal after dealing collateral damage.

I think Moscow should be ours ...

 

[namliaM]

I like teasers, its better than nothing Judging from the number of swords and the 11 turns left on CoL ... It wasnt taken on turn 1

I hope moscow was razed

And I hope we got a boat out to explore those lands to the west of former Russia, preverably with a scout

 

[eektor]

Aww the turn report isn't up, guess I'll be seeing it tonight.

@GreyFox When I said 3:1 ratio I meant for longbowmen only. If there were 9 longbowmen in the city, I don't think 5 cat's would lower down their strength enough for 9 swordsmen to win every battle. I saw two longbowmen so with other units so I was thinking 6 for them and like 4 more to cover the rest, 10 units not counting a few cats.

As for a PA, I think we are able to choose that with Nationalism, so we might want to head in that direction once we get Astronomy and Guilds.

 

[ChrTh]

PA requires FASCISM or Communism. Communism is a much quicker path (see my post on page 2 or 3)

 

[Maquis]

The Seige of Moscow

In 830 AD, the glorious Egyptian army sat upon the hill looking over the vast city of Moscow. The new recruits gasped at the sheer numbers of Russian soldiers fortified within.

"Do not worry lads, as we shall be victorious this day. The blood will spill, but we will not sit upon this hill this evening. We shall feast upon the spoils of victory."

The words the great general Maquis spoke that day are destine to become as much a part of VQ history as the tales of Nara.

The soldiers send up one last prayer to the RNG god... and the war trumpets sound!

The first Catapult is sent in - VQ's Catapult (5.00) vs Catherine's Longbowman (13.80) Combat Odds: 0.0% - suicide no doubt. We prey it shall not be in vein. The RNG god smiles down upon them, as they withdraw with a few brave men surviving a devistating attack on the city.

The LB is taken down to 1/2 health, and all other units suffer collateral damage.

One more suicide cat for good measure, who also takes a good chunk off the second LB (down to 38/100HP) and the troops storm the gates!

VQ's Swordsman has defeated Catherine's Longbowman!
VQ's Swordsman has defeated Catherine's Archer!
VQ's Swordsman has defeated Catherine's Archer!
VQ's Swordsman has defeated Catherine's Spearman!
VQ's Axeman has defeated Catherine's Longbowman!
VQ's Spearman has defeated Catherine's Horse Archer!
VQ's Axeman has defeated Catherine's Catapult!

You have captured Moscow!!!

As the great general marched the last of his troops into the city, a wry smile spread across his lips. This shall be the day long remembered....

[end of story]



Other than the second suicide Cat.... NO LOSSES

I will spend 15 minutes in praise to the RNG god each day this week.


And yes I KEPT Moscow! I do not want to raze a size 13 city...

Unfortunatly, the RNG god was not so kind to me the entire turnset. Lost a few troops in an unsucessful attack of Cathy's city to the south-west. There is one LB left there, and we have 3 axes ready to attack.

ChrTh can choose to attack with these, or wait for better odds...
We also have a stack at Cathy's other city, and cats have started bombing down the walls. 2 LB's in that city. It's just a matter of time. I will be very if ChrTh does not eliminate her.


Also, a few more interesting things happened. First off:

HC has Optics! Yikes...

The next turn, we meet Roosevelt. He too sailed over to meet us. Currently he is cautious toward HC. Let's hope it stays that way.


Last thing... I was afraid of this..

Ganhdi used this opprotune time to plop a city down. We NEED to put some culture into Moscow and surrounding cities. We need this city to flip!!!


All the gory details...

Spoiler :

Turn 219, 785 AD: You have trained a Swordsman in Elephantine. Work has now begun on a Aqueduct.
Turn 219, 785 AD: Catherine's Longbowman (6.00) vs VQ's Swordsman (6.30)
Turn 219, 785 AD: Combat Odds: 40.5%
Turn 219, 785 AD: (Fortify: +5%)
Turn 219, 785 AD: Catherine's Longbowman is hit for 20 (80/100HP)
Turn 219, 785 AD: Catherine's Longbowman is hit for 20 (60/100HP)
Turn 219, 785 AD: VQ's Swordsman is hit for 19 (81/100HP)
Turn 219, 785 AD: Catherine's Longbowman is hit for 20 (40/100HP)
Turn 219, 785 AD: VQ's Swordsman is hit for 19 (62/100HP)
Turn 219, 785 AD: Catherine's Longbowman is hit for 20 (20/100HP)
Turn 219, 785 AD: VQ's Swordsman is hit for 19 (43/100HP)
Turn 219, 785 AD: VQ's Swordsman is hit for 19 (24/100HP)
Turn 219, 785 AD: VQ's Swordsman is hit for 19 (5/100HP)
Turn 219, 785 AD: Catherine's Longbowman is hit for 20 (0/100HP)
Turn 219, 785 AD: VQ's Swordsman has defeated Catherine's Longbowman!
Turn 219, 785 AD: Catherine adopts Vassalage!
Turn 219, 785 AD: Catherine adopts Serfdom!

Turn 220, 800 AD: The borders of Alexandria have expanded!

Turn 221, 815 AD: Islam has been founded in a distant land!
Turn 221, 815 AD: Al-Razi has been born in a far away land!
Turn 221, 815 AD: Catherine's Catapult (6.00) vs VQ's War Chariot (4.62)
Turn 221, 815 AD: Combat Odds: 85.5%
Turn 221, 815 AD: (Extra Combat: -20%)
Turn 221, 815 AD: (Extra Combat: +20%)
Turn 221, 815 AD: Catherine's Catapult is hit for 18 (82/100HP)
Turn 221, 815 AD: VQ's War Chariot is hit for 21 (56/100HP)
Turn 221, 815 AD: Catherine's Catapult is hit for 18 (64/100HP)
Turn 221, 815 AD: Catherine's Catapult is hit for 18 (46/100HP)
Turn 221, 815 AD: VQ's War Chariot is hit for 21 (35/100HP)
Turn 221, 815 AD: VQ's War Chariot is hit for 21 (14/100HP)
Turn 221, 815 AD: VQ's War Chariot is hit for 21 (0/100HP)
Turn 221, 815 AD: Catherine's Catapult has defeated VQ's War Chariot!
Turn 221, 815 AD: Catherine's Longbowman (6.00) vs VQ's Axeman (2.87)
Turn 221, 815 AD: Combat Odds: 99.1%
Turn 221, 815 AD: (Extra Combat: +10%)
Turn 221, 815 AD: (Fortify: +15%)
Turn 221, 815 AD: VQ's Axeman is hit for 22 (24/100HP)
Turn 221, 815 AD: Catherine's Longbowman is hit for 17 (83/100HP)
Turn 221, 815 AD: Catherine's Longbowman is hit for 17 (66/100HP)
Turn 221, 815 AD: VQ's Axeman is hit for 22 (2/100HP)
Turn 221, 815 AD: VQ's Axeman is hit for 22 (0/100HP)
Turn 221, 815 AD: Catherine's Longbowman has defeated VQ's Axeman!

Turn 222, 830 AD: VQ's Catapult (5.00) vs Catherine's Longbowman (13.80)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Combat Odds: 0.0%
Turn 222, 830 AD: (Plot Defense: +25%)
Turn 222, 830 AD: (Fortify: +10%)
Turn 222, 830 AD: (City Defense: +70%)
Turn 222, 830 AD: (Hills: +25%)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Catherine's Longbowman is hit for 12 (88/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: VQ's Catapult is hit for 32 (68/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Catherine's Longbowman is hit for 12 (76/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Catherine's Longbowman is hit for 12 (64/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Catherine's Longbowman is hit for 12 (52/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: VQ's Catapult is hit for 32 (36/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: VQ's Catapult is hit for 32 (4/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: VQ's Catapult (5.00) vs Catherine's Longbowman (11.07)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Combat Odds: 0.8%
Turn 222, 830 AD: (Plot Defense: +25%)
Turn 222, 830 AD: (Fortify: +10%)
Turn 222, 830 AD: (City Defense: +45%)
Turn 222, 830 AD: (Hills: +25%)
Turn 222, 830 AD: VQ's Catapult is hit for 30 (70/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: VQ's Catapult is hit for 30 (40/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Catherine's Longbowman is hit for 13 (77/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Catherine's Longbowman is hit for 13 (64/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: VQ's Catapult is hit for 30 (10/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Catherine's Longbowman is hit for 13 (51/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Catherine's Longbowman is hit for 13 (38/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: VQ's Catapult is hit for 30 (0/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Catherine's Longbowman has defeated VQ's Catapult!
Turn 222, 830 AD: VQ's Swordsman (6.60) vs Catherine's Longbowman (5.25)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Combat Odds: 81.0%
Turn 222, 830 AD: (Extra Combat: -10%)
Turn 222, 830 AD: (Plot Defense: +25%)
Turn 222, 830 AD: (Fortify: +10%)
Turn 222, 830 AD: (City Defense: +70%)
Turn 222, 830 AD: (Hills: +25%)
Turn 222, 830 AD: (City Attack: -55%)
Turn 222, 830 AD: VQ's Swordsman is hit for 21 (79/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Catherine's Longbowman is hit for 18 (32/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Catherine's Longbowman is hit for 18 (14/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: VQ's Swordsman is hit for 21 (58/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Catherine's Longbowman is hit for 18 (0/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: VQ's Swordsman has defeated Catherine's Longbowman!
Turn 222, 830 AD: VQ's Swordsman (6.00) vs Catherine's Archer (4.21)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Combat Odds: 85.3%
Turn 222, 830 AD: (Plot Defense: +25%)
Turn 222, 830 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 222, 830 AD: (City Defense: +70%)
Turn 222, 830 AD: (Hills: +25%)
Turn 222, 830 AD: (City Attack: -55%)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Catherine's Archer is hit for 21 (53/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Catherine's Archer is hit for 21 (32/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Catherine's Archer is hit for 21 (11/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Catherine's Archer is hit for 21 (0/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: VQ's Swordsman has defeated Catherine's Archer!
Turn 222, 830 AD: VQ's Swordsman (6.00) vs Catherine's Archer (4.21)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Combat Odds: 85.3%
Turn 222, 830 AD: (Plot Defense: +25%)
Turn 222, 830 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 222, 830 AD: (City Defense: +70%)
Turn 222, 830 AD: (Hills: +25%)
Turn 222, 830 AD: (City Attack: -55%)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Catherine's Archer is hit for 21 (53/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Catherine's Archer is hit for 21 (32/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Catherine's Archer is hit for 21 (11/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Catherine's Archer is hit for 21 (0/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: VQ's Swordsman has defeated Catherine's Archer!
Turn 222, 830 AD: VQ's Swordsman (6.00) vs Catherine's Spearman (4.71)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Combat Odds: 84.9%
Turn 222, 830 AD: (Extra Combat: +10%)
Turn 222, 830 AD: (Plot Defense: +25%)
Turn 222, 830 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 222, 830 AD: (City Attack: -30%)
Turn 222, 830 AD: (Combat: +25%)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Catherine's Spearman is hit for 20 (56/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Catherine's Spearman is hit for 20 (36/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Catherine's Spearman is hit for 20 (16/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: VQ's Swordsman is hit for 19 (81/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Catherine's Spearman is hit for 20 (0/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: VQ's Swordsman has defeated Catherine's Spearman!
Turn 222, 830 AD: VQ's Axeman (5.00) vs Catherine's Longbowman (4.21)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Combat Odds: 78.8%
Turn 222, 830 AD: (Plot Defense: +25%)
Turn 222, 830 AD: (Fortify: +10%)
Turn 222, 830 AD: (City Defense: +45%)
Turn 222, 830 AD: (Hills: +25%)
Turn 222, 830 AD: (City Attack: -20%)
Turn 222, 830 AD: VQ's Axeman is hit for 24 (76/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: VQ's Axeman is hit for 24 (52/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Catherine's Longbowman is hit for 16 (22/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Catherine's Longbowman is hit for 16 (6/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: VQ's Axeman is hit for 24 (28/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: VQ's Axeman is hit for 24 (4/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Catherine's Longbowman is hit for 16 (0/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: VQ's Axeman has defeated Catherine's Longbowman!
Turn 222, 830 AD: VQ's Spearman (4.40) vs Catherine's Horse Archer (2.52)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Combat Odds: 96.7%
Turn 222, 830 AD: (Extra Combat: -10%)
Turn 222, 830 AD: (Extra Combat: +10%)
Turn 222, 830 AD: (Combat: -100%)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Catherine's Horse Archer is hit for 24 (56/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Catherine's Horse Archer is hit for 24 (32/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Catherine's Horse Archer is hit for 24 (8/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Catherine's Horse Archer is hit for 24 (0/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: VQ's Spearman has defeated Catherine's Horse Archer!
Turn 222, 830 AD: VQ's Axeman (6.00) vs Catherine's Catapult (4.00)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Combat Odds: 90.1%
Turn 222, 830 AD: (Extra Combat: -20%)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Catherine's Catapult is hit for 23 (57/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Catherine's Catapult is hit for 23 (34/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: VQ's Axeman is hit for 17 (83/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: VQ's Axeman is hit for 17 (66/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: VQ's Axeman is hit for 17 (49/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Catherine's Catapult is hit for 23 (11/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Catherine's Catapult is hit for 23 (0/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: VQ's Axeman has defeated Catherine's Catapult!
Turn 222, 830 AD: You have captured Moscow!!!
Turn 222, 830 AD: Cyrus adopts Hereditary Rule!
Turn 222, 830 AD: Catherine's Longbowman (6.00) vs VQ's Swordsman (1.44)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Combat Odds: 100.0%
Turn 222, 830 AD: (Fortify: +20%)
Turn 222, 830 AD: VQ's Swordsman is hit for 23 (0/100HP)
Turn 222, 830 AD: Catherine's Longbowman has defeated VQ's Swordsman!
Turn 222, 830 AD: Catherine converts to Hinduism!

Turn 224, 860 AD: Huayna Capac adopts Vassalage!

Turn 226, 890 AD: VQ's Swordsman (6.60) vs Catherine's Catapult (5.16)
Turn 226, 890 AD: Combat Odds: 76.1%
Turn 226, 890 AD: (Extra Combat: -10%)
Turn 226, 890 AD: (Extra Combat: +20%)
Turn 226, 890 AD: Catherine's Catapult is hit for 21 (65/100HP)
Turn 226, 890 AD: Catherine's Catapult is hit for 21 (44/100HP)
Turn 226, 890 AD: VQ's Swordsman is hit for 18 (82/100HP)
Turn 226, 890 AD: Catherine's Catapult is hit for 21 (23/100HP)
Turn 226, 890 AD: VQ's Swordsman is hit for 18 (64/100HP)
Turn 226, 890 AD: VQ's Swordsman is hit for 18 (46/100HP)
Turn 226, 890 AD: VQ's Swordsman is hit for 18 (28/100HP)
Turn 226, 890 AD: Catherine's Catapult is hit for 21 (2/100HP)
Turn 226, 890 AD: Catherine's Catapult is hit for 21 (0/100HP)
Turn 226, 890 AD: VQ's Swordsman has defeated Catherine's Catapult!

Turn 229, 935 AD: VQ's Swordsman (6.60) vs Catherine's Catapult (6.00)
Turn 229, 935 AD: Combat Odds: 67.8%
Turn 229, 935 AD: (Extra Combat: -10%)
Turn 229, 935 AD: (Extra Combat: +20%)
Turn 229, 935 AD: Catherine's Catapult is hit for 20 (80/100HP)
Turn 229, 935 AD: Catherine's Catapult is hit for 20 (60/100HP)
Turn 229, 935 AD: Catherine's Catapult is hit for 20 (40/100HP)
Turn 229, 935 AD: Catherine's Catapult is hit for 20 (20/100HP)
Turn 229, 935 AD: Catherine's Catapult is hit for 20 (0/100HP)
Turn 229, 935 AD: VQ's Swordsman has defeated Catherine's Catapult!
Turn 229, 935 AD: VQ's Swordsman (6.00) vs Catherine's Longbowman (5.82)
Turn 229, 935 AD: Combat Odds: 57.9%
Turn 229, 935 AD: (Plot Defense: +2%)
Turn 229, 935 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 229, 935 AD: (City Defense: +25%)
Turn 229, 935 AD: (City Attack: -55%)
Turn 229, 935 AD: VQ's Swordsman is hit for 19 (81/100HP)
Turn 229, 935 AD: VQ's Swordsman is hit for 19 (62/100HP)
Turn 229, 935 AD: Catherine's Longbowman is hit for 20 (80/100HP)
Turn 229, 935 AD: Catherine's Longbowman is hit for 20 (60/100HP)
Turn 229, 935 AD: Catherine's Longbowman is hit for 20 (40/100HP)
Turn 229, 935 AD: Catherine's Longbowman is hit for 20 (20/100HP)
Turn 229, 935 AD: VQ's Swordsman is hit for 19 (43/100HP)
Turn 229, 935 AD: VQ's Swordsman is hit for 19 (24/100HP)
Turn 229, 935 AD: VQ's Swordsman is hit for 19 (5/100HP)
Turn 229, 935 AD: VQ's Swordsman is hit for 19 (0/100HP)
Turn 229, 935 AD: Catherine's Longbowman has defeated VQ's Swordsman!
Turn 229, 935 AD: VQ's Swordsman (6.00) vs Catherine's Axeman (6.10)
Turn 229, 935 AD: Combat Odds: 36.5%
Turn 229, 935 AD: (Plot Defense: +2%)
Turn 229, 935 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 229, 935 AD: (City Attack: -55%)
Turn 229, 935 AD: (Combat: +50%)
Turn 229, 935 AD: VQ's Swordsman is hit for 20 (80/100HP)
Turn 229, 935 AD: VQ's Swordsman is hit for 20 (60/100HP)
Turn 229, 935 AD: VQ's Swordsman is hit for 20 (40/100HP)
Turn 229, 935 AD: Catherine's Axeman is hit for 19 (81/100HP)
Turn 229, 935 AD: Catherine's Axeman is hit for 19 (62/100HP)
Turn 229, 935 AD: VQ's Swordsman is hit for 20 (20/100HP)
Turn 229, 935 AD: Catherine's Axeman is hit for 19 (43/100HP)
Turn 229, 935 AD: VQ's Swordsman is hit for 20 (0/100HP)
Turn 229, 935 AD: Catherine's Axeman has defeated VQ's Swordsman!
Turn 229, 935 AD: VQ's Axeman (6.00) vs Catherine's Axeman (2.73)
Turn 229, 935 AD: Combat Odds: 99.5%
Turn 229, 935 AD: (Extra Combat: -20%)
Turn 229, 935 AD: (Plot Defense: +2%)
Turn 229, 935 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 229, 935 AD: (Combat: -50%)
Turn 229, 935 AD: (Combat: +50%)
Turn 229, 935 AD: Catherine's Axeman is hit for 22 (21/100HP)
Turn 229, 935 AD: Catherine's Axeman is hit for 22 (0/100HP)
Turn 229, 935 AD: VQ's Axeman has defeated Catherine's Axeman!

Turn 230, 950 AD: VQ's Catapult (5.00) vs Catherine's Longbowman (6.30)
Turn 230, 950 AD: Combat Odds: 29.6%
Turn 230, 950 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 230, 950 AD: (City Defense: +45%)
Turn 230, 950 AD: (City Attack: -20%)
Turn 230, 950 AD: VQ's Catapult is hit for 24 (76/100HP)
Turn 230, 950 AD: VQ's Catapult is hit for 24 (52/100HP)
Turn 230, 950 AD: VQ's Catapult is hit for 24 (28/100HP)
Turn 230, 950 AD: VQ's Catapult is hit for 24 (4/100HP)
Turn 230, 950 AD: VQ's Axeman (6.00) vs Catherine's Longbowman (6.09)
Turn 230, 950 AD: Combat Odds: 55.9%
Turn 230, 950 AD: (Extra Combat: -20%)
Turn 230, 950 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 230, 950 AD: (City Defense: +45%)
Turn 230, 950 AD: (Combat: -25%)
Turn 230, 950 AD: Catherine's Longbowman is hit for 18 (52/100HP)
Turn 230, 950 AD: VQ's Axeman is hit for 22 (78/100HP)
Turn 230, 950 AD: VQ's Axeman is hit for 22 (56/100HP)
Turn 230, 950 AD: VQ's Axeman is hit for 22 (34/100HP)
Turn 230, 950 AD: VQ's Axeman is hit for 22 (12/100HP)
Turn 230, 950 AD: Catherine's Longbowman is hit for 18 (34/100HP)
Turn 230, 950 AD: VQ's Axeman is hit for 22 (0/100HP)
Turn 230, 950 AD: Catherine's Longbowman has defeated VQ's Axeman!

Turn 231, 965 AD: Chichen Itza has been built in a far away land!

Turn 232, 980 AD: The enemy has been spotted near Pi-Ramesses!
Turn 232, 980 AD: Your Catapult has reduced the defenses of Yakutsk to 0%!
Turn 232, 980 AD: VQ's Catapult (4.35) vs Catherine's Longbowman (7.54)
Turn 232, 980 AD: Combat Odds: 4.4%
Turn 232, 980 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 232, 980 AD: (City Defense: +45%)
Turn 232, 980 AD: VQ's Catapult is hit for 27 (60/100HP)
Turn 232, 980 AD: VQ's Catapult is hit for 27 (33/100HP)
Turn 232, 980 AD: VQ's Catapult is hit for 27 (6/100HP)
Turn 232, 980 AD: VQ's Catapult is hit for 27 (0/100HP)
Turn 232, 980 AD: Catherine's Longbowman has defeated VQ's Catapult!
Turn 232, 980 AD: Your Catapult has died trying to attack a Longbowman!
Turn 232, 980 AD: You have discovered Code of Laws!

Also, the save is up... sorry I did not link it here.

 

[ChrTh]

I got it, will be playing in about 10 hours. And yes, I will eliminate Cathy.

EDIT: If you have any qualms of me keeping Cathy's two cities, speak now or forever hold your peace.

SECOND EDIT:

Unfortunatly, the RNG god was not so kind to me the entire turnset. Lost a few troops in an unsucessful attack of Cathy's city to the south-west. There is one LB left there, and we have 3 axes ready to attack.

ChrTh can choose to attack with these, or wait for better odds...

ME? WAIT? HAHAHAHAHA

 

[bobrath]

I'm content with keeping the remaining two cities. Too bad we can't reasonably extort any techs from Cathy! Actually... if she's founded an island site somewhere... we might get lucky....

 

[GreyFox]

AM I hallucinating? A I imagining things? Or am I in a Matrix-like make-believe world? DID I JUST HEARD BOBRATH SAYS KEEP THE CITIES?

--

Good job taking Moscow ... too ba dabout the remainder of the battles, but man, that battle of Moscow was enough.

Too bad abt Gandhi ... I am restraining myself from giving smartass comments like "See, that's what you have when you raze ciies ... a third civ walks right in and settle under your nose." .... but I digress.

One thing abt this Indian city is it may helps us in aligning our religion with Gandhi ... maybe ...

Suggestion for next move: Continue puping up our army and kill Cathy off ...

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[bobrath]

Yes you heard me, its ok to keep some cities. Just not the ones right next door to much more optimal cities. Nara gained us nothing!!!!!!

I do hope we get religion soon. That's our biggest hindrance right now. With religion, we would have never had to deal with WW and I'm betting our research would be much more healthy. BTW, I can't tell from the screen shot, but did a religion come over with Moscow?

I did see that our power graph line went suddenly flat. ICK.

 

[ChrTh]

Stupid question: can caravels pillage?

 

[dot]

Didn't someone say, that Gandhi founded hinduism. Yakutsk, the one SW, is a Hindu-City. So if you wan't to make PA with Gandhi, wouldn't you want to adopt 'his' religion? Just asking.

IIRC, Moscow holds biddhism, which has been founded by Cyrus.

 

[dot]

Stupid question: can caravels pillage?

Not that stupid after all. I tried to in my last game but couldn't do it. Had to wait for chemistry and thereby frigates to come along.

Edit. But that ain't gospel. Just my experiences.

OK. It IS gospel. Set something up in the worldbuilder. Caravels don't get the option of pillaging.

 

[Maquis]

OK. It IS gospel. Set something up in the worldbuilder. Caravels don't get the option of pillaging.

That explains why HC never went out and pillaged our clams off the east coast of Pi-Ramys. (I thought he had pillaged the south clams, but it may have been that they were never hooked up?)


Also, KEEP CATHY'S CITIES! We've already had Gahndi plop down on "our" continent already, we don't need any more problems from him. Since we are always peace w/ him... the only way we can get that city is by culture!

I may not have mentioned it, but CoL came in at the end of my turns... we should be building courthouses as soon as we can (once Cathy is gone... 3 turns maybe?) and build the Forbidden Palace. My vote would be in Moscow.

We want some culture going on Cathy's cities sooner rather than later (Gahndi is Creative also, right?) To put the pressure on his city. I would think with pressure coming from 3 sides, it should flip...

 

[ChrTh]

I'm not really worried about Hyderabad, it'll flip eventually with two cities on either side and none of Gandhi's cities close by. Moscow is definitely my target for the FP, and I plan on whipping Courthouses in most of the Russian cities.

I see where researching Calendar now ... what's the logic for that? Is CoL tradeable to anybody?

 

[bobrath]

(Gahndi is Creative also, right?)

Gahndi is Industrius and Spiritual.

The creative leaders are:

Us (Hatshepsut)
Catherine
Cyrus
Frederick
Kublai Khan
Louis XIV

 

[ChrTh]

Looked at the save. I'm going to need more than the 3 axes to take Yakutsk, however, I have 2 cats nearby I'm going to send over to suicide. As for Novgorod, that should fall pretty easily once I reduce the defense to 0% (and presuming the RNG God is in my favor )

-10gpt at 40% science = ouchie. Courthouses for everybody!

I noticed that there were some workers sitting on their butts while there were gems waiting to be mined!

 

[Maquis]

I noticed that there were some workers sitting on their butts while there were gems waiting to be mined!

That's my fault... I was concentrating on the war so much I didn't pay attention to what the workers should be doing down south by Moscow...

Also, feel free to switch off of Calendar... there's only a couple turn invested in it. I picked it to be able to hook up sugar/spices, etc.