Cosmichail
Dark Lord of The Sith
Sheeez why bother with lib for so little beakers right now. Great lib is far away so lots of time for building library. Granary seemed for me the way to go at the moment.
@namliaM
We will be settling there shortly in the north (settler is almost at site to settle one tile away). I wanted to make sure he is protected and once he settles they will cost us nothing again.
As to the farm at Birka was only temporary so that when it did pop borders we could mine the gems and work it right away and get the commerce. We couldn't do anything with the sugar right then and once borders expands we can put cottages on sugar until calender is in. The workers are sitting on the spices just to chop the jungle as I want to keep them near Birka as borders will pop very soon and we can then mine the gems and get another commerce boost. (putting cottages on the sugar is awesome btw I do it all the time and quite often if I have more than one source leave the cottage - just like FP 3food)
As to why Haithabu is building worker is confusing at best.
One statement says we badly need workers but then you complain???? Where else could I build it fast except for Nidaros which just built granary/two settlers and a Trireme. You say galley I say tomato. Meaning how many times we don't protect our resources and galleys aren't meant for that. We need to protect our resources if Gandhi is running around with a galley and a Trireme too. PS galley takes only a few turns in Nidaros so it's never that far away. Neither for the lib as it can be built in 8 turns. As to whipping Uppsala I felt it not necessary with so few pop in there. Only 3 pop in the city and no granary. Not ideal for whipping I think but I could be wrong.
There is a Trireme on the way back from GK's lands to have more of a look at the island of Dr. Moreau. Somehow my instincts tell me Gandhi is heading there. As to sinking his galley well Greyfox when I have a magic wand and can get a ship right there then I'll do it. For now our Trireme was quite far away.
I too thought of the hut and thought maybe a tech but who knows you may even get barb warriors. A lot of effort to find out if you ask me.
We have expressed our whys and wherefores (Greyfox and namliaM) are you are aware that during my turnset our commerce increased by 24 base commerce which helped our science a lot. So that buck you are whining about for the fogbusters was well covered by that. (I see the acknowledgement in the roster)
At the end of my turnset I thought too better a lib in Haithabu but we do need workers and Nidaros was busy. Nidaros should build one too and that will give us six which is enough for now. We do have a lot and a lot of jungle to work so I felt a worker was more important than lib at the moment. Uppsala needs a lot of work and at least 3 workers to gets things moving there. Cities can only build one thing at a time and we only have four right now. Birka won't be building much so the only real production cities are Haithabu and Nidaros. Uppsala will improve over time especially with lumbermill but I am inclined to do a lot of chopping there and elsewhere too. We have math now so chops are much better now. (well only 2 turns away)
I knew when you saw the workers on the spices you would wonder. I thought ok chop the jungle and by then borders pop and mine the gems. City would grow and farm would help to keep working gems until more food was available. Yes the workers could move elsewhere and do something better but by the time they got to another site the borders would pop. I only had one thing in mind. COMMERCE..... Second gem site would add another 7 or 8 gold base commerce so that's my brainstorm on that. With so few roads around the workers take long to get from one point to another so leaving them there until borders pop seemed logical. And since that was the case I thought chopping the jungle would give them something to do.
Also I do believe our pop limit is better now at Nidaros with gems online. Our research has vastly improved with working 3 gold/1 gem mine. Cottage up the rest of Birka and we have a pretty strong commerce center. The one thing that I thought I goofed on was starting a lib in Birka but no one says a thing. mmmmmm (again too much into the detail and not the big picture)
I forgot we had SH so that's why I thought lib. I was going to change it but thought well we can change that and save the hammers invested for 50 turns so no biggie. It won't build much else right now at any speed.
I did realize once I settled Birka that there's fish south of that city. Why did we not settle on the spices and get that fish. I only followed the dotmap but I hate to see a fish site go wasted especially since we need it too. Sure there is lots of food but I am thinking about the overall health of our empire. I DO realize second gems not in reach of city then but I JUST HATE wasting a resource like that. I am no dotmap expert and never make them but could we not have organized it that we could use fish and gems to another site maybe. With all that food in the area it could easily have supported two cities. Now fish never gets worked only if we get second border pop for health.
)... but as ussual a magnifying glass is put on the things that look strange instead of the positives.
), I deque-ed the lib and started an archer for Bjorgvin. Next we should try to que some units (another trireme?? or an axe).
