SGOTM 06 - Fifth Element | Page 24

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greatbeyond

King

Apr 2, 2008

#461

Sweetacshon said:
Susa was kind of diversionary anyway.. I really considered razing it and jumping back on the boats. Who took it back, and with what force?

Re: techs - I'll have to check the save, but I don't think we'll have enough use of WP, but that depends how close we are to dom. Nationalism, so we can draft a million redcoats, might be nice.

Both Cyrus and Saladin attacked; Cyrus with a force of Grenadiers and Saladin with a force of Cavalry. We held out about 4 turns IIRC.

As for Redcoat music, I like the sound of that.

I sent another fleet of reinforcements north toward Najiran. I think we would be best to circle that force to the west seizing his coastal cities and at the same time either by landing or working our way up the coast,we take the one Viking city and then the first Arabian city which is lightly defended.

Sweetacshon

In the foetal position

Apr 2, 2008

#462

I'm travelling for the weekend, so skip me pls. Good luck. (I'll be watching!)

BLubmuz

HoF Quattromaster

Apr 2, 2008

#463

very late, very, long, too many turns perhaps

the save

Just the time to post the autolog, comments will follow

Spoiler :

BLubmuz

HoF Quattromaster

Apr 2, 2008

#464

follow autolog

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BLubmuz

HoF Quattromaster

Apr 3, 2008

#465

Highlights from my TS:
the early turns was almost only to move troops.
Then i resisted to some skirmish here and there, and when i has a fleet of 5 galleons full of mixed units, i landed a force to pillage Salad's horses.
This force was almost wiped by anything: cannons, assorted siege weapons, cavalry, any possible unit, so i quickly re-embarked the survivors, no chance to pillage. Finally i has another load of troops, same attack, but this time i could pillage the damn horses, then re-embark. Twice he tried to hook the horses, and twice i stolen his workers.

The good new is that this was his ONLY source, you can see camel archers around, but they are no match for us.

In the very last turn i landed 2 rifles and 1 cannon in a island south, pillaged a source of iron (hopefully his only one), then tried to take the city.

Discovered Persepolis, now under siege: you can take it, but be careful.
Discovered also the Christian Holy - absolutely worth keep it -, Pasagardae, it's lightly defended, i suppose they are short of units.

Our main problem is the distance: we have a lot of units waiting for galleons, i've found a good place for ferry near the Silver city.

I settled the 2 cities in the big islands, and kept the settler for the city north of Timbuktu for the last rush.

Surely Sistine helped a lot for land expansion, some few cities and we can win this nightmare.

GB, please do NOT automate workers, they destroyed my windmills to build useless camps.

Well, do your best, play how many turns you like, then i'll take the save: not much time left, and the war is long.

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greatbeyond

King

Apr 3, 2008

#466

Blubmuz "GB, please do NOT automate workers, they destroyed my windmills to build useless camps."

I must have accidentally done it as I never automate workers. That was one thing I liked about Civ 3 that you could automate workers but tell them to leave existing improvements. I don't know why they didn't included that feature in Civ4. Unless of course I'm missing something.

I will wait until about 10:00pm GMT Friday evening (afternoon here) to see if Civicide shows . If not I will start anew.

Sweetacshon

In the foetal position

Apr 3, 2008

#467

greatbeyond said:
Blubmuz "GB, please do NOT automate workers, they destroyed my windmills to build useless camps."

I must have accidentally done it as I never automate workers. That was one thing I liked about Civ 3 that you could automate workers but tell them to leave existing improvements. I don't know why they didn't included that feature in Civ4. Unless of course I'm missing something.

It is there in the options - two things, actually: leave old improvements, and don't chop. At this point in the game, I don't mind some automated workers, but checking those options is a must.

@BLubmuz: no pics for those of us without civ? How about some dom stats?

BLubmuz

HoF Quattromaster

Apr 4, 2008

#468

Sweetacshon said:
It is there in the options - two things, actually: leave old improvements, and don't chop. At this point in the game, I don't mind some automated workers, but checking those options is a must.
Agreed
@BLubmuz: no pics for those of us without civ? How about some dom stats?

Our lurkers friends disappeared, and it was so late i didn't took SSs.
Domination: we're around 50%.
Our continent is all covered, and we got a settler that we can use for another big island instead for the few tiles near the last barb city.
If we take Persepolis, Pasagardae and Susa from Cy and perhaps another city from Salad we prolly are done.

@GB
OK for waiting -> play
if i well understood Sweeta is out for the weekend, so (always if no one comes around) i'll play after you.

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greatbeyond

King

Apr 4, 2008

#469

It seems every day I learn a little more about Civ4, thanks for the tip about workers.

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greatbeyond

King

Apr 5, 2008

#470

Here is the save:

http://gotm.civfanatics.net/saves/civ4sgotm6/Fifth_Element_SG006_AD1855_01.CivWarlordsSave

And AutoLog:

Spoiler :

Other half of Auto log in next post

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greatbeyond

King

Apr 5, 2008

#471

Other half of AutoLog, it is getting huge!

Spoiler :

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greatbeyond

King

Apr 5, 2008

#472

Screenshots and Commentary:

We took three cities, Aden - on an Island to the West, Persepolis, and Odense - the Viking City on the east coast.

We lost the city on the NW coast (Fustat) and all our units around the Horses. No time to get them reboarded and Saladin used his Cavalry and Cannons to chew them up. He did lose more units than us, but he still appears to have a good supply. We have several Galleons just North of Najiran loaded with Redcoats and Cannons, they have not moved yet. I am thinking land them on the forest next to the city we lost, Fustat. Saladin has a strong force of Cavalry in the city but I think we should take it and raze it. This denies him the chance to take it back and should relieve some of the cultural pressure on Najiran. He has managed to hook his Horses back up.
I also think our Troops from Odense could probably move up and take the next city on the coast. We will need to move some of our Troops up from the two cities to the south. When Persepolis expands we may be able to send them on to Pasergarde. I don't know what kind of units Cyrus has there.

I have completed one Settler and started two more. We can settle the area south of Persepolis with at least 1 if not 2 cities. We could place one on the Southern part and then another to the NW (or SW of Pasergarde) and use the GA to culture bomb one of them immediately. I think we should be just about done with keeping any of the enemy cities, Raze them and resettle. We should check in advance to make sure there isn't a wonder we need in the city first. I see that we are up to about 52% and Cyrus is the next biggest at 24%.

We have completed Nationalism and have about 5 turns on MT. Gold is not a problem right now.We still have our GE and as I said before we should consider using him for West Point, if there isn't anything better to use him on. London is producing units with 17 of 20 promotion points. WP would give us another 4 pts and they would have the 5 promotions when built.

After researching MT I think maybe Railroads would be a good choice. It would help us get our units to the front much quicker.

Good Luck Blubmuz.

BLubmuz

HoF Quattromaster

Apr 5, 2008

#473

I got the save, will play in some 4 hours.
No, i'll take and keep Fustat, then i'll try to pillage the horses and to take another city.
On the Persian front i'll try Pasagardae and Susa next.

I think i'll settle S of Persepolis, lot of land there.

Yes, Railroads after MT, but i hope we can reach the limit before complete it.

edit:
Now playing
dammit, Cy has FIGHTERS!!!

Merum

Permanent Jet Lag

Apr 5, 2008

#474

Hey guys,

Just got back into Japan... Things are settling down for me, and I could probably play a turnset soon if you want to break up the monotony. I'm glad you guys kept this game going.

It's going to take some time for me to catch up, so don't expect a "got it" on the next available turnset. If you prefer I sit out, just say so, that's cool.

BLubmuz

HoF Quattromaster

Apr 5, 2008

#475

oh-ohh
Ibis, redibis...
i'm playing now, and i hope to close this one.
Btw never played the last TS in 5 SGs.
Now we are less than 100 tiles to dom, and 2 cities will fall soon, despite infantry and fighters.

for ignorants: "ibis, redibis nunc, moriebis in bello" was the prophecy of a Roman Oracle: moving the comma after or before "nunc" let the prophecy be good for any case (and you can't see a comma in a speech).
Translation for more ignorant: you'll go, you don't come back, you'll die in war.

Merum

Permanent Jet Lag

Apr 5, 2008

#476

Go get em, Blub! You deserve to close it out. I'll play the next one.

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greatbeyond

King

Apr 5, 2008

#477

Even if you have to go over, if we are that close go ahead and take them out. If you won't make it, then Merum is fine with me. I'll await the sound of trumpets proclaiming our victory.

I can't remember which wise man said it, but "Ignorance is bliss"

Good to see you back on the forum Merum.

BLubmuz

HoF Quattromaster

Apr 5, 2008

#478

Done!!!

I'm proud to announce that the english Empire won a Domination Victory in 1886.
I know we was not on the laurels, but at least an hard game is won.
The final save, if someone wish to take a look.

I've settled 2 cities in the peninsula South of Pasagardae, and when i get the message that we was over the Dom limit, i've tried to take Cy's last city on the continent, unsuccessfully.

The Autolog:

Spoiler :