Since it looks like there's a minority opinion that we should trade only with Isabella in the first turn, can we do a compromise move here?
What I mean is trade Alphabet to Isabella for Mysticism, BW & AH. Then, report back to the team without ending the turn, so we have a better picture of what we're risking (or potentially gaining) by rolling the dice & ending the turn without any additional trades? That's not against the rules is it? Playing less than one turn & submitting another save, that is?
This is ok. But you have to update the save you have posted for that turn, AFAIK. (When we are done with this turn, post the save before hitting end of turn.) See the maintenance thread to be sure, I've asked sth like that before.
Okay, pulled the trigger on this trade:
Looks like Liz does, in fact, have Poly already. She's making a run for GLib would be my bet, since she skipped Math (usually an AI favorite). Looking at the 'Can Research' column for Washington & Asoka, looks like they both know Poly, Meditation, & IW, which should all become available for trade next turn.
I'm tempted to roll the dice by ending the turn & see if we can't pick up Poly, Med, IW, Sailing & Archery all next round. If Alphabet gets traded around on the AI's turn, I'm guessing Asoka won't get it, but Washington is more likely to get it from Isabella. So even if we get nothing from Washington, we should still be able to trade with Asoka.
Just stay cool people.
1) We are giving Mysticism to Toku now, right? He probably won't get pleased right away, but this is still a very good move. We could also give more religious techs to him later on.
2) It is extremely unlikely that Liz has Literature only a few turns after Alpha.
3) We can't tell anything about Poly, my conclusion before was wrong. We need to know Poly to see if she can research Literature.
About that
minority opinion:
Asoka and Isabella are not that good with each other and Washington is protecting his tech, he doesn't want to trade it yet. It isn't likely that Izzy will trade Alpha right away, IMO.
Let's evaluate this:
1) We trade Alpha to another civ right away
For what? Sailing and archery from most advanced civs? We want ironworking, meditation, priesthood.... It isn't worth it. There are more civs on the map to get sailing and archery.
2) We don't trade right away. Worst case: we lose an advanced civ for the trade, but like I said, this isn't likely IMO.
To summarize it: if we trade now, we have
just lost one advanced civ for trade
for sure for virtually
nothing! If we don't trade, there is a slight possibility of losing a trading partner.
What are we going to research for
this turn? How about math, a few beakers to lower the price?
