SGOTM 19 - Also Sprach Sid

[Duckweed]

Do we consider to convert to Bud this turn? Minimum loss for now which also give us more time to trade and recover from mess caused by barbarians.

 

[Doshin]

It's a bit awkward. Going into Buddhism will cause diplo headaches. Kublai trades at Annoyed, but not Napoleon. Tokugawa will no doubt switch into Hinduism soon.

OTOH, I don't think Hinduism is going to spread to us. Kublai is at the opposite end of the map, and Buddhism is going to spread naturally soon.

 

[Duckweed]

Trading with Nappy 1st to unlock Lit looks good as he won't trade with other know AIs.

Cease fire this turn with Asoka and gift him Alpha. Next turn. trade Aes to him for IW+PH? or PH + Mono, and in the same time trade Aes to KK for IW?

 

[Doshin]

You're right, though, about the timing of a revolt. I would be happy to switch, unless you all want to meet the other AI. But I think we will need to wait a long time to see any other missionaries.

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By PH do you mean Polytheism, not Priesthood?

 

[Duckweed]

PH = priesthood, we will get Poly + Med from Nappy in this turn.

 

[Doshin]

Also, religion penalties with Kublai and Napoleon are almost non-existent: –2 for Kublai, due to the holy city, and –1 with Napoleon.

Your trading plan sounds good, as best I can tell.

Since KK is the tech leader, we could try to leave him out of the initial trades.

 

[Duckweed]

Hmm, would be better to trade mono with KK 1st to please him more and then IW+PH from Asoka.

 

[Doshin]

One issue is that Aesthetics and Monarchy are worth the same amount of .

Should we trade Currency instead?

T62

Napoleon: Currency <----> Meditation/Polytheism

T63

Asoka: Currency <----> PH/OR/IW

T64

KK: Currency <----> Monarchy

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I'd have to check that those trades are possible.

 

[Duckweed]

That looks good, won't be much problem since we have cash to add if not enough. The only thing to worry about is that whether KK is researching Currency now.

 

[kossin]

It's good to see I've had some impact over these SGOTMs. As bad as it may be

Always seems so improbable to me when players spawnbust Deity with 2~3 warriors yet I die with 2 Protective Archers in the capital. True story.

 

[Doshin]

That looks good, won't be much problem since we have cash to add if not enough. The only thing to worry about is that whether KK is researching Currency now.

The trades he offer seem to indicate that he isn't researching Aesthetics or Currency. If he offers one less tech for Currency on T63, we'll react accordingly.

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These are big decisions, so let's call a team vote.

1. Switch into Buddhism? Yay or nay?
2. Try to trade according to this post? (basically Duckweed's plan, but we trade away Currency > Aesthetics.)

Both 'yay' from me.

If I receive 3 more 'yays' tonight (i.e. 4 votes total), I'll play on.

If not, I'll upload after performing the turn's micro. The active player tomorrow can go with the majority vote, as 24 hours seems a decent turn around period.

 

[kossin]

Trades and religion are good. If we're lucky we can use OR bonus for TGL as well.

 

[Duckweed]

It's good to see I've had some impact over these SGOTMs. As bad as it may be

Always seems so improbable to me when players spawnbust Deity with 2~3 warriors yet I die with 2 Protective Archers in the capital. True story.

You name has a new meaning, created by pomthom -- kossinly.

If you look at the winning odd of some players showing their HA rush, you know how they did it.

 

[Doshin]

Religious switch: Doshin, kossin, Duckweed
Trades: Doshin, kossin, Duckweed

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Duckweed: you proposed the religious switch, so I think you're in favor of this too?

Today is St. Patrick's day. I assume Irish luck counterbalanced kossin's influence... hence the last gap victory.

 

[Duckweed]

Yes, I would not worry about those AIs altitude because of religion difference. We won't be able to be friendly with them, so being cautious with them should be enough.

 

[Doshin]

We have 178 . 100% slider leads to -28GPT and +51BPT.

With Gold, an extra city, and trade routes in Golden Sands, Literature in 5 turns (= 6/7 with religious/civic switches) might be achievable.

The AI trading us Mathematics will likely be the determining factor of the build date.

 

[Doshin]

We have 50% of our team agreeing to both plans, with no dissenting votes. Shall I play on?

I don't want to disregard the opinions of others, but I also don't want to delay unnecessarily on my last day with the save.

 

[Doshin]

Okay. The next player will have the honor of implementing the moves. The current turn is not finished.

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Micro/PPP suggestions for the next set:

(1) City 5

Spoiler :

City #5 = Cornish Cow?



Regardless, settle and work the Corn. Use the Worker 2W of the Cow to start a Pasture.

On T63, bring the Worker 2S1W of the Cow and use him to complete the Pasture.

If the city has 12F, and works an improved Corn, it can grow in two turns. Assuming that we switch into a religion, this will go:

T62: Corn (revolt)
T63: Corn
T64: Cow (3F). 1 Worker moves, chops the Forest, and cancels.
T65: Cow (6F). 1 Worker to Corn, other pre-chops and cancels.
T66: Cow (9F). 2 Workers improve Corn (3/5).
T67: Corn (12F). Corn improved.

This suggests only two Workers are needed.

I haven't tested, but it would not surprise me to learn that this city should grow to size 3 and then whip a Granary. This means that, following the whip, the city is still working its two resource tiles.

A Granary would boost the Corn @ size 1 to a 10F tile. Staying at size 2 without a Granary means that we work 6F 3H.

Either way, it is easy to chop/whip the Granary with the roaded Forest tile.

(2) The Scout

Spoiler :

You will need to confirm, but I think moving here:



... will unfog the tile directly south of the Lake.

If this is safe, move 1S, and then SW. Go in a clockwise circle, scouting (a) the Horse; (b) the Wheat; (c) the tundra north:



Alternatively, move south (a) and fogbust the Horse/Clam/Corn(?) site.

(3) Northern Workers

Spoiler :

With the current micro, these are not needed near City #5.

After Golden Sands is reconnected, use as you see fit. Either (a) road towards Horse site, or (b) move onto the hill 1N of Rice Pudding, mine, and then move south to help with chopping.

(4)Southern Workers

Spoiler :

Assuming that we will switch into a religion this turn...

Move 1N. Cottage (2/4) and cancel. On T63, move 1S. Cottage (4/4). On T64, move 1SE. Pasture (2/4). The Pasture will be done on T65.

(5) Western Worker

Spoiler :

Finish the road. Move 1W, finish the road.

From the FPs, you can move to the tile 1W or 1E of Case Depart at your convenience. Only one turn will be wasted in transit.

Expect to capture 2 Workers from Asoka, after we ceasefire and then redeclare war.

(6) Case Depart Worker

Spoiler :

I think we should use this one Worker to pre-chop the Forests that have roads on them. It is too soon to move this guy onto an unroaded Forest, and CD already has a few improved tiles that it is not working.

When we are four turns away from researching Literature, he can move onto an unroaded tile that is difficult for other, more distant Workers to reach. It is not worth building roads on new Forests.

All suggestions/ideas. Enjoy your barb light experience.

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Log:

Spoiler :

Here is your Session Turn Log from 1680 BC to 1520 BC:


Turn 59, 1640 BC: Barbarian's Axeman (5.00) vs Trumpster's Archer 1 (Rice Pudding) (8.10)
Turn 59, 1640 BC: Combat Odds: 2.8%
Turn 59, 1640 BC: (Plot Defense: +45%)
Turn 59, 1640 BC: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 59, 1640 BC: (City Defense: +50%)
Turn 59, 1640 BC: (Hills Defense: +25%)
Turn 59, 1640 BC: (City Barbarian Defense: +25%)
Turn 59, 1640 BC: Trumpster's Archer 1 (Rice Pudding) is hit for 15 (85/100HP)
Turn 59, 1640 BC: Barbarian's Axeman is hit for 25 (75/100HP)
Turn 59, 1640 BC: Barbarian's Axeman is hit for 25 (50/100HP)
Turn 59, 1640 BC: Trumpster's Archer 1 (Rice Pudding) is hit for 15 (70/100HP)
Turn 59, 1640 BC: Barbarian's Axeman is hit for 25 (25/100HP)
Turn 59, 1640 BC: Barbarian's Axeman is hit for 25 (0/100HP)
Turn 59, 1640 BC: Trumpster's Archer 1 (Rice Pudding) has defeated Barbarian's Axeman!

Turn 60, 1600 BC: The enemy has been spotted near Sheepish!
Turn 60, 1600 BC: The enemy has been spotted near Golden Sands!
Turn 60, 1600 BC: You are the worst enemy of Asoka.
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Asoka will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Kublai Khan will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Napoleon will trade Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Will Sign Peace Treaty: Asoka
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Rice Pudding will become unhappy on the next turn.
Turn 60, 1600 BC: You are the worst enemy of Asoka.
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Asoka will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Kublai Khan will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Napoleon will trade Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Will Sign Peace Treaty: Asoka
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Rice Pudding will become unhappy on the next turn.
Turn 60, 1600 BC: You are the worst enemy of Asoka.
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Asoka will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Kublai Khan will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Napoleon will trade Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Will Sign Peace Treaty: Asoka
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Rice Pudding will become unhappy on the next turn.
Turn 60, 1600 BC: You are the worst enemy of Asoka.
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Asoka will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Kublai Khan will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Napoleon will trade Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Will Sign Peace Treaty: Asoka
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Rice Pudding will become unhappy on the next turn.
Turn 60, 1600 BC: You are the worst enemy of Asoka.
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Asoka will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Kublai Khan will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Napoleon will trade Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Will Sign Peace Treaty: Asoka
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Rice Pudding will become unhappy on the next turn.
Turn 60, 1600 BC: You are the worst enemy of Asoka.
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Asoka will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Kublai Khan will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Napoleon will trade Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Will Sign Peace Treaty: Asoka
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Rice Pudding will become unhappy on the next turn.
Turn 60, 1600 BC: You are the worst enemy of Asoka.
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Asoka will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Kublai Khan will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Napoleon will trade Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Will Sign Peace Treaty: Asoka
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Rice Pudding will become unhappy on the next turn.
Turn 60, 1600 BC: You are the worst enemy of Asoka.
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Asoka will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Kublai Khan will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Napoleon will trade Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Will Sign Peace Treaty: Asoka
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Rice Pudding will grow to size 6 on the next turn.
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Rice Pudding will grow to size 6 on the next turn.
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Barbarian's Archer (3.00) vs Trumpster's Archer 1 (Rice Pudding) (7.69)
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Combat Odds: 0.2%
Turn 60, 1600 BC: (Plot Defense: +45%)
Turn 60, 1600 BC: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 60, 1600 BC: (City Defense: +50%)
Turn 60, 1600 BC: (Hills Defense: +25%)
Turn 60, 1600 BC: (City Barbarian Defense: +25%)
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Trumpster's Archer 1 (Rice Pudding) is hit for 12 (83/100HP)
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Trumpster's Archer 1 (Rice Pudding) is hit for 12 (71/100HP)
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 31 (69/100HP)
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 31 (38/100HP)
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 31 (7/100HP)
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 31 (0/100HP)
Turn 60, 1600 BC: Trumpster's Archer 1 (Rice Pudding) has defeated Barbarian's Archer!
Turn 60, 1600 BC: While defending, your Archer 1 (Rice Pudding) has killed a Barbarian Archer!

Turn 61, 1560 BC: The enemy has been spotted near Sheepish!
Turn 61, 1560 BC: The enemy has been spotted near Golden Sands!
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Case Départ has become unhappy.
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Rice Pudding has grown to size 6.
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Rice Pudding has become unhappy.
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Rice Pudding can hurry Library for 3&#8692; with 21&#8484; overflow and +1&#8676; for 25 turns.
Turn 61, 1560 BC: You are the worst enemy of Asoka.
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Asoka will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Kublai Khan will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Napoleon will trade Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Will Sign Peace Treaty: Asoka
Turn 61, 1560 BC: You are the worst enemy of Asoka.
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Asoka will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Kublai Khan will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Napoleon will trade Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Will Sign Peace Treaty: Asoka
Turn 61, 1560 BC: You are the worst enemy of Asoka.
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Asoka will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Kublai Khan will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Napoleon will trade Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Will Sign Peace Treaty: Asoka
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 12 (Rice Pudding) (5.50) vs Barbarian's Archer (3.06)
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Combat Odds: 96.0%
Turn 61, 1560 BC: (Extra Combat: -10%)
Turn 61, 1560 BC: (Extra Combat: +10%)
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 12 (Rice Pudding) is hit for 15 (85/100HP)
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 26 (67/100HP)
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 26 (41/100HP)
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 26 (15/100HP)
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 12 (Rice Pudding) is hit for 15 (70/100HP)
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 12 (Rice Pudding) is hit for 15 (55/100HP)
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 12 (Rice Pudding) is hit for 15 (40/100HP)
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 26 (0/100HP)
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 12 (Rice Pudding) has defeated Barbarian's Archer!
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Your Axeman 12 (Rice Pudding) has destroyed a Archer!
Turn 61, 1560 BC: You are the worst enemy of Asoka.
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Asoka will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Kublai Khan will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Napoleon will trade Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Will Sign Peace Treaty: Asoka
Turn 61, 1560 BC: You are the worst enemy of Asoka.
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Asoka will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Kublai Khan will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Napoleon will trade Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Will Sign Peace Treaty: Asoka
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 13 (Sheepish) (5.00) vs Barbarian's Warrior (1.23)
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Combat Odds: 100.0%
Turn 61, 1560 BC: (Extra Combat: +10%)
Turn 61, 1560 BC: (Combat: -50%)
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Barbarian's Warrior is hit for 36 (51/100HP)
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Barbarian's Warrior is hit for 36 (15/100HP)
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Barbarian's Warrior is hit for 36 (0/100HP)
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 13 (Sheepish) has defeated Barbarian's Warrior!
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Your Axeman 13 (Sheepish) has destroyed a Warrior!
Turn 61, 1560 BC: You are the worst enemy of Asoka.
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Asoka will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Kublai Khan will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Napoleon will trade Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Will Sign Peace Treaty: Asoka
Turn 61, 1560 BC: You are the worst enemy of Asoka.
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Asoka will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Kublai Khan will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Napoleon will trade Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Will Sign Peace Treaty: Asoka
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Sheepish will grow to size 3 on the next turn.
Turn 61, 1560 BC: Sheepish will grow to size 3 on the next turn.
Turn 61, 1560 BC: You have discovered Aesthetics!

Turn 62, 1520 BC: Case Départ can hurry Settler for 2&#8692; with 14&#8484; overflow and +1&#8676; for 27 turns.
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Rice Pudding will become unhappy on the next turn.
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Sheepish has grown to size 3.
Turn 62, 1520 BC: You are the worst enemy of Asoka.
Turn 62, 1520 BC: The borders of Sheepish are about to expand.
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Asoka will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Kublai Khan will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Napoleon will trade Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Will Sign Peace Treaty: Asoka
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Rice Pudding will become unhappy on the next turn.
Turn 62, 1520 BC: You are the worst enemy of Asoka.
Turn 62, 1520 BC: The borders of Sheepish are about to expand.
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Asoka will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Kublai Khan will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Napoleon will trade Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Will Sign Peace Treaty: Asoka
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 6 (Rice Pudding) (5.00) vs Asoka's Archer (6.15)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Combat Odds: 20.7%
Turn 62, 1520 BC: (Extra Combat: +10%)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: (Plot Defense: +40%)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: (City Defense: +50%)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: (City Attack: -20%)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Asoka's Archer is hit for 18 (82/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 6 (Rice Pudding) is hit for 22 (78/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 6 (Rice Pudding) is hit for 22 (56/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 6 (Rice Pudding) is hit for 22 (34/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 6 (Rice Pudding) is hit for 22 (12/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Asoka's Archer is hit for 18 (64/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 6 (Rice Pudding) is hit for 22 (0/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Asoka's Archer has defeated Trumpster's Axeman 6 (Rice Pudding)!
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Your Axeman 6 (Rice Pudding) has died trying to attack a Archer!
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 7 (Rice Pudding) (5.00) vs Asoka's Archer (5.85)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Combat Odds: 23.1%
Turn 62, 1520 BC: (Plot Defense: +40%)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: (City Defense: +50%)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: (City Attack: -20%)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 7 (Rice Pudding) is hit for 21 (79/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 7 (Rice Pudding) is hit for 21 (58/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 7 (Rice Pudding) is hit for 21 (37/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 7 (Rice Pudding) is hit for 21 (16/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 7 (Rice Pudding) is hit for 21 (0/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Asoka's Archer has defeated Trumpster's Axeman 7 (Rice Pudding)!
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Your Axeman 7 (Rice Pudding) has died trying to attack a Archer!
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Rice Pudding will become unhappy on the next turn.
Turn 62, 1520 BC: You are the worst enemy of Asoka.
Turn 62, 1520 BC: The borders of Sheepish are about to expand.
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Asoka will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Kublai Khan will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Napoleon will trade Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Will Sign Peace Treaty: Asoka
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 8 (Case Départ) (5.00) vs Asoka's Archer (5.85)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Combat Odds: 23.1%
Turn 62, 1520 BC: (Plot Defense: +40%)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: (City Defense: +50%)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: (City Attack: -20%)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 8 (Case Départ) is hit for 21 (79/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Asoka's Archer is hit for 18 (82/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 8 (Case Départ) is hit for 21 (58/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Asoka's Archer is hit for 18 (64/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 8 (Case Départ) is hit for 21 (37/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 8 (Case Départ) is hit for 21 (16/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 8 (Case Départ) is hit for 21 (0/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Asoka's Archer has defeated Trumpster's Axeman 8 (Case Départ)!
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Your Axeman 8 (Case Départ) has died trying to attack a Archer!
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 10 (Case Départ) (5.00) vs Asoka's Archer (5.85)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Combat Odds: 23.1%
Turn 62, 1520 BC: (Plot Defense: +40%)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: (City Defense: +50%)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: (City Attack: -20%)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 10 (Case Départ) is hit for 21 (79/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 10 (Case Départ) is hit for 21 (58/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 10 (Case Départ) is hit for 21 (37/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Asoka's Archer is hit for 18 (82/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 10 (Case Départ) is hit for 21 (16/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 10 (Case Départ) is hit for 21 (0/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Asoka's Archer has defeated Trumpster's Axeman 10 (Case Départ)!
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Your Axeman 10 (Case Départ) has died trying to attack a Archer!
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 3 (Case Départ) (5.50) vs Asoka's Archer (6.00)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Combat Odds: 26.8%
Turn 62, 1520 BC: (Extra Combat: -10%)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: (Extra Combat: +10%)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: (Plot Defense: +40%)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: (City Defense: +50%)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Asoka's Archer is hit for 19 (81/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 3 (Case Départ) is hit for 20 (80/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 3 (Case Départ) is hit for 20 (60/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Asoka's Archer is hit for 19 (62/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 3 (Case Départ) is hit for 20 (40/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 3 (Case Départ) is hit for 20 (20/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Asoka's Archer is hit for 19 (43/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Asoka's Archer is hit for 19 (24/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Asoka's Archer is hit for 19 (5/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Asoka's Archer is hit for 19 (0/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 3 (Case Départ) has defeated Asoka's Archer!
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Your Axeman 3 (Case Départ) has destroyed a Archer!
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 11 (Sheepish) (5.00) vs Asoka's Archer (5.28)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Combat Odds: 40.0%
Turn 62, 1520 BC: (Plot Defense: +40%)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: (City Defense: +50%)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 11 (Sheepish) is hit for 21 (79/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Asoka's Archer is hit for 18 (64/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 11 (Sheepish) is hit for 21 (58/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Asoka's Archer is hit for 18 (46/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Asoka's Archer is hit for 18 (28/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 11 (Sheepish) is hit for 21 (37/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 11 (Sheepish) is hit for 21 (16/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 11 (Sheepish) is hit for 21 (0/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Asoka's Archer has defeated Trumpster's Axeman 11 (Sheepish)!
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Your Axeman 11 (Sheepish) has died trying to attack a Archer!
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 5 (Case Départ) (5.00) vs Asoka's Archer (3.45)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Combat Odds: 86.0%
Turn 62, 1520 BC: (Extra Combat: +10%)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: (Plot Defense: +40%)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: (City Defense: +50%)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: (City Attack: -45%)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 5 (Case Départ) is hit for 18 (82/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Asoka's Archer is hit for 21 (43/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Asoka's Archer is hit for 21 (22/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 5 (Case Départ) is hit for 18 (64/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Asoka's Archer is hit for 21 (1/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 5 (Case Départ) is hit for 18 (46/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Asoka's Archer is hit for 21 (0/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 5 (Case Départ) has defeated Asoka's Archer!
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Your Axeman 5 (Case Départ) has destroyed a Archer!
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 4 (Case Départ) (4.95) vs Asoka's Archer (4.12)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Combat Odds: 67.2%
Turn 62, 1520 BC: (Extra Combat: -10%)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: (Plot Defense: +40%)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: (City Defense: +50%)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 4 (Case Départ) is hit for 20 (70/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Asoka's Archer is hit for 19 (45/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Asoka's Archer is hit for 19 (26/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Asoka's Archer is hit for 19 (7/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 4 (Case Départ) is hit for 20 (50/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Asoka's Archer is hit for 19 (0/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 4 (Case Départ) has defeated Asoka's Archer!
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Your Axeman 4 (Case Départ) has destroyed a Archer!
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 2 (Case Départ) (5.00) vs Asoka's Archer (1.80)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Combat Odds: 99.7%
Turn 62, 1520 BC: (Plot Defense: +40%)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: (City Defense: +50%)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Asoka's Archer is hit for 22 (6/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Asoka's Archer is hit for 22 (0/100HP)
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 2 (Case Départ) has defeated Asoka's Archer!
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Your Axeman 2 (Case Départ) has destroyed a Archer!
Turn 62, 1520 BC: You have captured Constantinople!!!
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Rice Pudding will become unhappy on the next turn.
Turn 62, 1520 BC: You are the worst enemy of Asoka.
Turn 62, 1520 BC: The borders of Sheepish are about to expand.
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Asoka will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Kublai Khan will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Napoleon will trade Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Will Sign Peace Treaty: Asoka
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Rice Pudding will become unhappy on the next turn.
Turn 62, 1520 BC: You are the worst enemy of Asoka.
Turn 62, 1520 BC: The borders of Sheepish are about to expand.
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Asoka will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Kublai Khan will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Napoleon will trade Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Will Sign Peace Treaty: Asoka
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Rice Pudding will become unhappy on the next turn.
Turn 62, 1520 BC: You are the worst enemy of Asoka.
Turn 62, 1520 BC: The borders of Sheepish are about to expand.
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Asoka will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Kublai Khan will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Napoleon will trade Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Will Sign Peace Treaty: Asoka
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Rice Pudding will become unhappy on the next turn.
Turn 62, 1520 BC: You are the worst enemy of Asoka.
Turn 62, 1520 BC: The borders of Sheepish are about to expand.
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Asoka will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Kublai Khan will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Napoleon will trade Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Will Sign Peace Treaty: Asoka
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Rice Pudding will become unhappy on the next turn.
Turn 62, 1520 BC: You are the worst enemy of Asoka.
Turn 62, 1520 BC: The borders of Sheepish are about to expand.
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Asoka will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Kublai Khan will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Napoleon will trade Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Will Sign Peace Treaty: Asoka
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Rice Pudding will become unhappy on the next turn.
Turn 62, 1520 BC: You are the worst enemy of Asoka.
Turn 62, 1520 BC: The borders of Sheepish are about to expand.
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Asoka will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Kublai Khan will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Napoleon will trade Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Will Sign Peace Treaty: Asoka
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Rice Pudding will become unhappy on the next turn.
Turn 62, 1520 BC: You are the worst enemy of Asoka.
Turn 62, 1520 BC: The borders of Sheepish are about to expand.
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Asoka will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Kublai Khan will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Napoleon will trade Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Will Sign Peace Treaty: Asoka
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Rice Pudding will become unhappy on the next turn.
Turn 62, 1520 BC: You are the worst enemy of Asoka.
Turn 62, 1520 BC: The borders of Sheepish are about to expand.
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Asoka will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Kublai Khan will trade Iron Working, Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Napoleon will trade Meditation, Polytheism
Turn 62, 1520 BC: Will Sign Peace Treaty: Asoka

 

[pomthom]

OK for religion and trades.

Jus a quick comment before going to work: I think Duckweed has given pretty strong arguments for building TGL/NE in cap rather than in Constantinople.

How about building the Parth in there (Const.)?


@team: who can take the next set? The jata is moving so he'll contribute later, I have some time but I'd rather take a set next week, and Doshin is in civ jail (pay 5000$ or throw double sixes). kossin, can you take a set/a few turns? (If not when)

If koss can't that goes back to Duckweed or Folket (or me but again I'd prefer next week).

Let's hear it!

 

[Duckweed]

I think doshin only need 1 day break. If so, it's better that he play until completing TGL.

One thing to be considered is to prepare to resume the war with Asoka again. We can DOW anytime after the trade from next turn. The determinative factors are to gather enough healthy axes and how's Asoka's wandering archers move next.