[BTS] SGOTM 26 - Home Slices

[Mitchum]

How hard are we pushing for this new, more-out-of-the-way island hop? Did we not anticipate spotting an island with our chariot?

No, but we probably should have. A galley + 2 land mover seem to be the ideal scouting team. Throw a missionary on board too and that would be the Dream Team (TM).

So if we are going to go to the effort of sending a boat to the SE, I'd much prefer a galley over a wb.

 

[WastinTime]

The galley will clear a water path even if the scout doesn't but I feel ya.

Out of curiosity, would the fogged tile at scout-3E1S prevent a trade route? Or does the trade route algorithm traverse past that tile Diagon Ally?

Diag, so that's fine. But it' seems more likely Peter is not up north in the Ice.
To get connected to his capital, the galley may have a long trip or run into impassable ice.
So, keep the scout revealing the south shore.

Here's a fast way to explore SB's new islands. Get Paper. Trade maps.
(edit: will he trade maps?)

 

[Mitchum]

whatever it takes to preserve my veto…

Looks like you may have to burn your veto... Or maybe hold it for 3ish turns so I can scout with the chariot to confirm no land path? Plus, then we get to WT's turnset.

 

[WastinTime]

T102 Paper

 

[Mitchum]

Of all the options (other that skipping boats) maybe Canal's 3rd seafood is not needed yet. +9 food is plenty to work with.

If this is what we end up doing, then I'd like our current wb near Clam City to stay there and net the clams and build a galley (after we whip the worker into the Mids) in Canal rather than starting on a library. The galley wouldn't start until the next turnset, BTW.

 

[WastinTime]

No boats.
SB:
Will trade map: Annoyed

 

[Mitchum]

T102 Paper

It's not that we only want to know what SB has scouted. We want to scout beyond what SB has seen. Paper will help fill in the gaps of our hurried scouting so far but we need to go beyond that and meet the rest of the AI.

 

[Mitchum]

In any event, permission to play on until the start of T85 per the current PPP, good sirs. I think Kait and WT are on board. LC is contemplating his veto. MG has not poked his head in yet.

If I don't start soon, we can continue the discussion and I can play tomorrow. Either way is fine with me.

Also, the boat decision (EDIT: If we go with the option of building it in Canal) would happen after my turnset so maybe LC can hang onto his veto until T85.

 

[Kaitzilla]

We've already put 10H into the worker. But in any event, is this the agreed plan to whip a wb next turn? Sounds like WT and LC are on board (pun intended).

EDIT: Waiting to hear from Kait and or MG.

We need that worker!

Send the Clam City workboat we already have to explore the south please.

That fogged tile 3E1S of scout will not block a trade route.
Trade routes go along coast diagonally just fine.

 

[WastinTime]

We can meet any meet-able AI with our chariot spotting their scout boats.
Allowing tech trade.
We can open resource trades & trade routes with maps trade.
I don't see any reason to sail down there.
I'm warming up my veto.

 

[Mitchum]

Options:

1. Use Clam City wb to explore

2. Turn galley with warrior around (it's near cows) and explore; Whales or Silver can build a new one to spread the love to Pete.

3. Build a galley in Canal and explore.

4. Others?

I'm fine with any option but #1 is the least disruptive. Clam City can crank out a wb pretty quickly and the wb is several turns ahead of the existing galley.

 

[WastinTime]

As long as you're not whipping a wb next turn and go with the worker, green light from me.

 

[Mitchum]

I'm warming up my veto.

What happens if someone vetoes someone else's veto? In that case, you DON'T want to cast the first veto else it could get cancelled. LC, we need to document the veto rules.

 

[WastinTime]

4. Others?

 

[Mitchum]

We can meet any meet-able AI with our chariot spotting their scout boats.
Allowing tech trade.
We can open resource trades & trade routes with maps trade.

This put me firmly in WT's camp. No need to panic. We're not far from Paper.

I think our chariot should scout the northern shore (if we even care to do that???) and then go back and hang out on the peninsula, yes?

EDIT: xpost with WT.

EDIT 2: I take it all back if WT is going to spank me.

 

[Mitchum]

LC looks to be offline. I'm going to stop for now for a conference call at 6. Should I upload?

I can pick back up tomorrow morning.

 

[MirrorGuard]

https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/sgotm-26-home-slices.657330/page-97#post-15792135
This ppp shows there will be 21g left when currency is completed. I think it's 100% safe to whip a workboat or galley to replace that library without delaying currency. I prefer scouting with a wb. Use the one from cows, move along the EAST coast to defog the tiles east of poverty point and cut in from Mound City.

 

[WastinTime]

This put me firmly in LC's camp. No need to panic. We're not far from Paper.

Firmly where? my camp?

and don't think you need to upload.

 

[Mitchum]

Firmly where? my camp?

WT, LC. Same thing. Fixed.

 

[WastinTime]

I think our chariot should scout the northern shore (if we even care to do that???)

If I understand map trades, every tile we reveal is one we don't have to pay for. So we should be able to get any mystery islands + gold for giving him our knowledge which includes Peter's.
But it can't hurt to minimize the # of tiles SB knows that we don't.