[BTS] SGOTM 26 - Home Slices

So, Alpha for IW+gold? or?
I honestly can't believe you got them to meet. I was sure having the worker plan for gems was a jinx.
I'm not sure about trades, I'll give it some thought.

How's the Tao sitch?
Tao spread should be ok so far.
Tao is still 10% of world religion influence on T112 last I checked, so I don't think it has spread yet.
 
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Does that explain LC's mysterious 2K at T0?
Spies don't count for Soldiers.
I just tested and spies will happily do missions even without Alphabet.
Sitting Bull probably does not have world buildered spies or we would have taken damage in Canal City as he spent his :espionage: points gleefully.

I don't think SB is in a team, because when we got his map we'd get their map too.
Test game also indicates meeting a team lets us meet all the AI in that team at the same time.
 
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I honestly can't believe you got them to meet. I was sure having the worker plan for gems was a jinx.

So you're going to laugh when you find out what it was.

Not a spy.
Not a Great Spy.
Not Peter having Optics, the +1 vision would not have been enough.
Not any kind of Guerilla II Archer from SB running onto a hill and then back.

It was this:
Spoiler :
Passive Mission Costs are governed by the formula:

Base Factor * (100+How much they have against you) * Modifiers

Base Factors for Passive Missions
Demographics=0.3
City Visibility=1.2
Investigate=2
See Research=0.75
So for Sitting Bull to gain City Visibility on Canal City, he would need
1.2 * (100 + 365) * Modifiers

He had +13% distance penalty since Canal City is 8.5 tiles from his capital.
He had -20% trade route bonus
He had +2% cost modifer

No bonus for Confu. We are both running it.

1.2 * (465) = 558
Floor (558 * 1.13) = 630
Floor (630 * 0.8) = 504
Floor (504 * 1.02) = 514

Sitting Bull needed 514:espionage: against us to gain City Visibility on Canal City.

Sitting Bull had 540:espionage: against us because he has a Castle, and he put everything on us all game.

SB saw Peter's workboat once it got within 1 tile of Canal City.

If Sitting Bull had been able to do spy missions against us and spent some of that 540, then SB and Peter would not have met for a while.​
 
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I'm back. Whaddi miss? SB will trade IW? hmmm.
How can that be?.... code diving... I know!
I can explain it with...

one, four-letter word....
Spoiler There's no 'i' :
Team
I never doubted SB would trade IW having met Peter and still don’t understand why you guys did. Tachy’s spreadsheet says it’s a go.
 
So you're going to laugh when you find out what it was.

Not a spy.
Not a Great Spy.
Not Peter having Optics, the +1 vision would not have been enough.
Not any kind of Guerilla II Archer from SB running onto a hill and then back.

It was this:
Spoiler :

So for Sitting Bull to gain City Visibility on Canal City, he would need
1.2 * (100 + 365) * Modifiers

He had +13% distance penalty since Canal City is 8.5 tiles from his capital.
He had -20% trade route bonus
He had +2% cost modifer

No bonus for Confu. We are both running it.

1.2 * (465) = 558
Floor (558 * 1.13) = 630
Floor (630 * 0.8) = 504
Floor (504 * 1.02) = 514

Sitting Bull needed 514:espionage: against us to gain City Visibility on Canal City.

Sitting Bull had 540:espionage: against us because he has a Castle, and he put everything on us all game.

SB saw Peter's workboat once it got within 1 tile of Canal City.

If Sitting Bull had been able to do spy missions against us and spent some of that 540, then SB and Peter would not have met for a while.​
Kait, you are Mecca, Jerusalem, and Trump all at once. The entire world bows down to you. Of course it’s obvious now but what gave you the bright idea? :goodjob::goodjob::goodjob:
 
Interesting, so it was probably our decision to move EPs to Peter that helped. And maybe if we had done that early enough, they woulda met at Profit island or something?
 
I woke up this morning and realized what needs to be built during the food/grow window between GAges (without slavery) around T138-143.
Probably in Whales, Cows, and ideally Canal -- but not sure how Canal can do it other than chop.
Should probably have a forest in Whales for this too.

Spoiler The builds: :
Caravels. So hopefully we can get Compass free b4 then.
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@LowtherCastle Are you back in the rotation? or am I up next? Cus I could start planning.
We should finally know where the workers will be (fortunately exactly where we hoped/planned)
Its a good timing for my RL. My weekend is pretty free.
 
I never doubted SB would trade IW having met Peter and still don’t understand why you guys did. Tachy’s spreadsheet says it’s a go.
Tachy understood it way better than me.
I was just using a quick test game where SB knowing 1AI with Iron Working was not enough.
Maybe I messed up and forgot to give all the AI Iron Working, even the unmet ones?

Let’s avoid alpha to SB if inhumanly possible.
SB probably has enough points to blow up our granary or lighthouse both, ya.

Kait, you are Mecca, Jerusalem, and Trump all at once. The entire world bows down to you. Of course it’s obvious now but what gave you the bright idea? :goodjob::goodjob::goodjob:
I was watching Columbo a lot lately, and Peter Faulk said "Obviously there is a spy in Canal City. Obviously there is not a Spy in Canal City."
I squinted at his glass eye for a minute and then realized what it had to be.

Interesting, so it was probably our decision to move EPs to Peter that helped. And maybe if we had done that early enough, they woulda met at Profit island or something?
Ya, they only met because we switched ep to Peter.

If we had done that right away, they probably would have met at Clam or Profit City ya.

I really regret now talking the team into staying on SB :o, but I thought we were too cheap to ever use ep slider on Peter.
 
So, Alpha for IW+gold? or?
I honestly can't believe you got them to meet. I was sure having the worker plan for gems was a jinx.
I kind of want to trade Metal Casting to Peter anyway just to make sure we get +1 Diplo.

But we can just gift it to him on T115 when we get a look at what he is teching next or something.

Basically, I punt the decision to next turnset. :)


How about we trade Code of Laws to SB for Iron Working, Archery, and gold?
No map as someone else mentioned.
 
SB for Iron Working, Archery,
NEVER archery (or HBR). Even if they offer it for free.
This just adds to WFYBTA

I suppose no alpha-spies for SB is wise. He could get Alpha from Peter, but not til he has something to trade ...or will SB not trade any monopoly techs to him?
That probably leaves CoL for IW + gold. Maybe putting SB in caste later is a good idea? Or maybe we want him to whip the AP.
 
Alrighty, how does everyone feel about Code of Laws for IW and gold?

I think we should do that and see if the mapmaker gave us iron.
 
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