[BTS] SGOTM 26 - Home Slices

[LowtherCastle]

Correct.

 

[WastinTime]

+2 and +1c per foreign trade route.

foreign TR only? bah, we're in MERC. The +2 would be nice

when we know all AIs are reachable we have to quickly decide to build colossus if we want it. It’s much cheaper to build

not Eiffel because of no iron

We should learn if Iron is actually unobtainium. With Iron, no brainer.
Even without it, wouldn't building 1250 Eiffel. be a good price for 5600+ Mass Media?
Imagine the wonder gave you 4 great artists! that could bulb MM. Wouldn't you build that?

whale is all we are getting.

Maybe some luxuries from overseas? I wish we could give them calendar.

catapults,

a.k.a. Trebs

Test game indicates that Clam City has one 30 forest and three 24 forests

Don't forget all those 4-6 workshops. ClamCity is a beast.

 

[WastinTime]

Charley:
Will trade extra happy resources: Annoyed
Will trade extra health resources: Annoyed

 

[Kaitzilla]

Maybe some luxuries from overseas? I wish we could give them calendar.

If we want happiness resources or iron from overseas, we need Astronomy.

 

[LowtherCastle]

They won't be accidental. I think NZ made a rat's nest down there. Cramped quarters. Religion lovers, Aggressive game option. There are 4 religions down there!
UN will be a nightmare. Kill em all!

T225

World pop: 219
Buddhist: 21
Hindu: 45
Jewish: 4
Christian: 4

Confu: 76
Taoist: 19

Looks like one Buddhist, 2-3 Hindu. Time will tell.

 

[WastinTime]

Don't renegotiate any of our trades just in case we need to cancel and trade with the South AI.
bah! xpost. nevermind.

If we want happiness resources or iron from overseas, we need Astronomy.

 

[LowtherCastle]

Charley:
Will trade extra happy resources: Annoyed
Will trade extra health resources: Annoyed

Plus:

Open Borders: Cautious
Trade Maps: Pleased

OBs should be no problem, even if he has the holy city for his religion, right? (-2 religion, -1 orneriness, +1 lasting peace). Unless he has extra negmods of course.

Pleased would be possible if no holy city and we trade him a tech, but that guarantees -4 with all his worst enemies.

Looks like about 12t for circumnavigation (including 5t for Compass+Optics). Only then do we start meeting the other two AIs.

Edit: I think it’s 10t to circum (getting the bonus on the 11th turn). Assuming Optics on T130.

Maybe it is better to drop the scout off first, gamble they’re on one land mass.

 

[LowtherCastle]

unobtainium

 

[LowtherCastle]

We could easily lose circum to Peter.

If Canal has so much freaking food, how about doo-whopping a second caravel for circum. while Profit caravel meets AIs faster.

Never mind. I finally “found” the hammers in the Cows trireme “build.” Floating on the water.

 

[WastinTime]

Looks like about 12t for circumnavigation

should be 10t

gamble they’re on one land mass

My earlier plan gives us the option after seeing the map. Scout can go either way.

easily lose circum to Peter

Nah, either he won't have optics or we get optics from him when we have a caravel 3E of Canal ready to pounce.

 

[WastinTime]

Hang on boys, time to step out of the box again.

Recall Astro gets 0% research bonus
SciMeth gets 40% bonus (if we had Astro.)
What about rushing Astro?

What if we use only 5-6 GS to bulb:
(edit: LC pointed out bulbing error, so changed to SM first)
PPress
Chem
SciMeth
SciMeth
Astro
Astro
Later GS's bulb physics, electr.

Now we could spend 5 turns on Bio or just Lib->Bio
But then it would be 7t on Medicine.
NatPark is about +100bpt, so getting it online 5t sooner makes up for some of the medicine difference. Plus extra food online earlier, etc

What sux is we have to obsolete parthenon just to start researching Bio.

Hold on.
Option B, we can squeeze Astro in before Chem as long as we don't have both Gunpowder and Engineering.
PPress
Astro
Astro
Chem
SciM
SciM

That would make Astro T134 instead of T136 or much later depending on GS luck.
Ya, we could have Astro 1t before circumnav
Resource trades overseas before Drafting.

Note: we might need to get SB to Friendly and get Calendar before he is WE of Peter.
so, like now. Something harmless like Philo.

 

[LowtherCastle]

Moscow has an Academy. I’d try the next Confu Miss in Moscow. Highest production, most likely to build the Confu monastery.

 

[LowtherCastle]

Option A doesn’t work anyway. SciMeth bulbs before Astro once we have Chem.

Option B: How about not bulbing 40% SciMeth at all and instead using those bulbs on Bio. We gain beakers, keep SciMeth longer, get Bio sooner ( or at least cheaper).

I was actually losing sleep the other night over bulbing SciMeth and not Astro. As it is our GS bulbs are nerfed with our 7-city limit.

 

[LowtherCastle]

Moscow has an Academy. I’d try the next Confu Miss in Moscow. Highest production, most likely to build the Confu monastery.

Or we could flip Peter from Pacifism into OR before we leave it, as long as he’s still Confu.

 

[Kaitzilla]

That would make Astro T134 instead of T136 or much later depending on GS luck.
Ya, we could have Astro 1t before circumnav
Resource trades overseas before Drafting.

Note: we might need to get SB to Friendly and get Calendar before he is WE of Peter.
so, like now. Something harmless like Philo.

Remember that Colossus can no longer be built once we get Astro on T134 in this scenario.

 

[Kaitzilla]

Now we could spend 5 turns on Bio or just Lib->Bio
But then it would be 7t on Medicine.
NatPark is about +100bpt, so getting it online 5t sooner makes up for some of the medicine difference. Plus extra food online earlier, etc

National Epic?
5 turns earlier might be worth 210 great person points in addition to +100bpt.

 

[WastinTime]

not bulbing 40% SciMeth at all and instead using those bulbs on Bio

You can't because as soon as you bulb Astro and tech SciMeth, then you bulb Physics.

 

[LowtherCastle]

You can't because as soon as you bulb Astro and tech SciMeth, then you bulb Physics.

Which explains why you skip Astro in the biology sling shot. Okay! Phuh Castro!

Still maybe save 1-2 SciMeth bulbs for Physics. Or generate a GM instead.

 

[WastinTime]

Option A doesn’t work anyway.

right, but there still is an Option A. I edited it.

 

[LowtherCastle]

Are we going to create failgold with NE?