[BTS] SGOTM 26 - Home Slices

[Mitchum]

I assume that Cat 3 (14/2 EXP) will take over on SB's last scout instead of Cat 4 (9/2 EXP), right? Or do we just send the 14/2 EXP cat to the HRE war as is? Is it possible to hit the one scout twice in one turn with two different cats?

Sid keeps assigning Engineers in Science and Whales and Spies in Canal. Be careful.

Do we want to work hammer tiles in cities like Cows and Clams to speed up the Observatory? Or should we not work those 0F tiles and instead work Scientists (Cows) or 2F tiles (Clams)? It looks like we can easily pull in Physics to 5 turns if we work Scientists or coastal tiles.

I think we should take the 100 gold Louis has on the table. Sell him PP which could lead to more gold (or gpt) on the table later in the game???

 

[MirrorGuard]

I'm coming back in 7 hours.

 

[WastinTime]

Minor MM things I'd probably do

Canal, I'd work +19 food to grow this turn (then MM next turn for some other benefit)
Silver: work Engineer instead of Fur, work merchants instead of coast because 100% Add a merchant every turn.
Science: Stick with the cottages, but then all sci
Clams: work 1 merchant and next turn add 1 more. T179 add oilWorkshop, then work +1 workshop per turn, but don't waste time with the mine. Two merch gets us 10gpt now, and for the next 20 turns (200) then we lose that cus WallSt. is a few turns later. So we come out even but front-load our cash. Later we will find other ways.
See next post for Clams

Whales: no engineer. We're giving up 5bpt for 4 turns (20:science) to get +10 from observatory 1 turn sooner.
Cows: do the temple and OF that into observatory. Then IW.

 

[WastinTime]

Clams: work 1 merchant and next turn add 1 more. T179 add oilWorkshop, then work +1 workshop per turn, but don't waste time with the mine. Two merch gets us 10gpt now, and for the next 20 turns (200) then we lose that cus WallSt. is a few turns later. So we come out even but front-load our cash. Later we will find other ways.

Actually, let's get extra HE gold in
ClamsCity
T177 if you work Clam Clam, merch, merch this turn it's ~199/200 HE (careful!)
178+ Permanently keep at least 1 merchant : Wall st. I think it's still done ~T200.
179 add oilworkshop
180+ add workshop

 

[MirrorGuard]

I'm back. Adding new tweaks into PPP.

Sell him PP which could lead to more gold (or gpt) on the table later in the game

ok.

Checking PPP for the last time before resuming.

 

[Kaitzilla]

Actually, let's get extra HE gold in
ClamsCity
T177 if you work Clam Clam, merch, merch this turn it's ~199/200 HE (careful!)
178+ Permanently keep at least 1 merchant : Wall st. I think it's still done ~T200.
179 add oilworkshop
180+ add workshop

When are we going to cash in Heroic Epic?

It looks like we will be completely broke on T181, so I think that means we need Temple in Silver City on T179 and Heroic Epic in Silver City on T180 right?

Spoiler :

Carefully adding into Heroic Epic in Clam City on T177 and in Whale City on T178 and T179 sounds good.

We just have to make sure to only complete Heroic Epic in Silver City or it is game over.

I assume that Cat 3 (14/2 EXP) will take over on SB's last scout instead of Cat 4 (9/2 EXP), right? Or do we just send the 14/2 EXP cat to the HRE war as is? Is it possible to hit the one scout twice in one turn with two different cats?

The 14 xp Cat should definitely go to the front.
It will have 4 promotions, so it can do City Raider III and Accuracy and do a lot of damage to cities.

 

[Kaitzilla]

I'm back. Adding new tweaks into PPP.

ok.

Checking PPP for the last time before resuming.

Good luck Mirrorguard!!!

I will be around tonight this time.

 

[WastinTime]

I'm here too. Continuing with old turnset post? or starting a new one?

 

[MirrorGuard]

Turnset report

T177
sell PP to Louis for 100g+map
the empire now is running at 673g-153gpt/

T178
galleon took a step south into HRE border to take a look at city defense.
Prague has 2* garrison 3 longbow and nothing else. The city defense is 5%.

Peter needs 6 turns to corporation. Bismark needs 9 turns to rep-parts.
Physics 4 turns left. 520g-132gpt/815bpt

T179
Peter has no cash no gpt...5 turns to corporation.
Bis need 8. Bribe Bis into caste system+20g
Saladin has 5gpt available
SB's trireme is spotted 2W1N of Cahokia.

Spoiler :

pause the game for a short break
Maybe I can cancel one seafood deal to Peter and sell 1 seafood to Saladin?

No trade deal this turn.

T180
Prague captured by Bismark. A great scientist is born in Russia.
galleon with 2 muskets 1 chariot heading towards Prague to see if there are any improvements covered by HRE culture
SB's trireme didn't attack our caravel. 1 SB's longbow is spotted on his silk.
Peter 4 turns to corporation, Bis 8t to rep-parts.
Bismark stops putting ep on us. I stop too.

T181
drop 2 muskets 1 chariot near Prague. shouldn't have placed them on 2 different tiles..Bismark has 2 wheats in trade list.
Charle sent 1 axe 1 swordman trying to take back Prague. Bis has 2 maceman 1 crossbow 1 treb 1 catapult in Prague. Aachen has 2 longbow 1 trireme 1 galley 1 xman. 100% city defense.
Peter has 220 g for trade, 3 turns from corporation
empire has 121g-124 gpt, physics 1 turn.
2nd exec in Hamburg. can spread sushi this turn
....spread sushi in the wrong city...he should have walked to Mecca....
both SB's units out of vision

*wheat to Saladin for 5gpt, silver to Bismark for wheat
corporation to Peter for 220g +map

After getting Peter's map, we know Peter has not expanded to his whale city. Now he has 1 gpt. Perhaps renegotiate the whale deal will cause the extra gpt to disappear.

Mecca has 97h. Paris has 95h.

T182
Peter picks communism. 16T
Didn't lose a unit in HRE. Charle's xman and swordman disappeared. A great general born in Aachen.

Turnset completes
Game uploaded

Spoiler turn log :

Reference number: 16501
Game: C-IV SGOTM 26
Your team: Home Slices
Your name: MirrorGuard
Date submitted: 2020-08-26
Software Version: BtS 3.19
Game date: 1220AD
Total turns played: 182
Session turns played: 5
Player race: Celt
Firaxis score: 2245
Session time played (hh:mm:ss): 01:45:18
Total time played (hh:mm:ss): 94:37:44
Game status: Incomplete
Submitted save: Homeslices_MG_turnsetcomplete_T182.CivBeyondSwordSave
Renamed file: Home_Slices_SG026_AD1220_01.CivBeyondSwordSave

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Here is your Session Turn Log from 1170 AD to 1220 AD:

Turn 177, 1170 AD: Lady Stoneheart's Chariot 1 (4.40) vs Sitting Bull's Scout (0.37)
Turn 177, 1170 AD: Combat Odds: 100.0%
Turn 177, 1170 AD: (Extra Combat: -10%)
Turn 177, 1170 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 177, 1170 AD: Sitting Bull's Scout is hit for 40 (0/100HP)
Turn 177, 1170 AD: Lady Stoneheart's Chariot 1 has defeated Sitting Bull's Scout!
Turn 177, 1170 AD: Lady Stoneheart's Catapult 4 (Cows) (4.50) vs Sitting Bull's Scout (0.37)
Turn 177, 1170 AD: Combat Odds: 100.0%
Turn 177, 1170 AD: (Fortify: +25%)

Turn 178, 1180 AD: Lady Stoneheart's Catapult 4 (Cows) (4.50) vs Sitting Bull's Scout (0.37)
Turn 178, 1180 AD: Combat Odds: 100.0%
Turn 178, 1180 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 178, 1180 AD: Saladin adopts Bureaucracy!

Turn 179, 1190 AD: Lady Stoneheart's Catapult 4 (Cows) (4.50) vs Sitting Bull's Scout (0.37)
Turn 179, 1190 AD: Combat Odds: 100.0%
Turn 179, 1190 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 179, 1190 AD: Bismarck adopts Caste System!
Turn 179, 1190 AD: Prague (Charlemagne) has been captured by the German Empire!!!
Turn 179, 1190 AD: James Clerk Maxwell (Great Scientist) has been born in Moscow (Peter)!

Turn 180, 1200 AD: The enemy has been spotted near Canal!
Turn 180, 1200 AD: The enemy has been spotted near Science!
Turn 180, 1200 AD: Science has grown to size 14.
Turn 180, 1200 AD: Cows has grown to size 13.
Turn 180, 1200 AD: Canal has grown to size 14.
Turn 180, 1200 AD: Silver has grown to size 11.
Turn 180, 1200 AD: Profit has grown to size 12.
Turn 180, 1200 AD: Profit will become unhealthy on the next turn.
Turn 180, 1200 AD: Whales has grown to size 11.
Turn 180, 1200 AD: Clams has grown to size 7.
Turn 180, 1200 AD: Lady Stoneheart's Catapult 4 (Cows) (4.50) vs Sitting Bull's Scout (0.37)
Turn 180, 1200 AD: Combat Odds: 100.0%
Turn 180, 1200 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 180, 1200 AD: Lady Stoneheart's Catapult 4 (Cows) is hit for 9 (81/100HP)
Turn 180, 1200 AD: Your Catapult 4 (Cows) has withdrawn from combat with a Scout!
Turn 180, 1200 AD: Profit will grow to size 13 on the next turn.
Turn 180, 1200 AD: Clams will grow to size 8 on the next turn.

Turn 181, 1210 AD: The enemy has been spotted near Science!
Turn 181, 1210 AD: Profit has grown to size 13.
Turn 181, 1210 AD: Profit has become unhealthy.
Turn 181, 1210 AD: Clams has grown to size 8.
Turn 181, 1210 AD: Peter has 220 gold available for trade.
Turn 181, 1210 AD: Lady Stoneheart's Catapult 4 (Cows) (4.05) vs Sitting Bull's Scout (0.37)
Turn 181, 1210 AD: Combat Odds: 100.0%
Turn 181, 1210 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 181, 1210 AD: Your Catapult 4 (Cows) has withdrawn from combat with a Scout!
Turn 181, 1210 AD: Cows will grow to size 14 on the next turn.
Turn 181, 1210 AD: Canal will grow to size 15 on the next turn.
Turn 181, 1210 AD: Silver will grow to size 12 on the next turn.
Turn 181, 1210 AD: Profit will grow to size 14 on the next turn.
Turn 181, 1210 AD: Whales will grow to size 12 on the next turn.
Turn 181, 1210 AD: Clams will grow to size 9 on the next turn.
Turn 181, 1210 AD: Cows will grow to size 14 on the next turn.
Turn 181, 1210 AD: Canal will grow to size 15 on the next turn.
Turn 181, 1210 AD: Silver will grow to size 12 on the next turn.
Turn 181, 1210 AD: Profit will grow to size 14 on the next turn.
Turn 181, 1210 AD: Whales will grow to size 12 on the next turn.
Turn 181, 1210 AD: Clams will grow to size 9 on the next turn.
Turn 181, 1210 AD: Sid's Sushi Co has expanded into Hamburg.
Turn 181, 1210 AD: Niels Bohr (Great Scientist) has been born in Science (Lady Stoneheart)!
Turn 181, 1210 AD: You have discovered Physics!
Turn 181, 1210 AD: You have discovered a source of Uranium near Cows!
Turn 181, 1210 AD: You have discovered a source of Uranium near Cows!
Turn 181, 1210 AD: Auitzotl (Great General) has been born in Aachen (Charlemagne)!
Turn 181, 1210 AD: Sitting Bull adopts Organized Religion!

Turn 182, 1220 AD: The enemy has been spotted near Science!
Turn 182, 1220 AD: Cows has grown to size 14.
Turn 182, 1220 AD: Canal has grown to size 15.
Turn 182, 1220 AD: Silver has grown to size 12.
Turn 182, 1220 AD: Profit has grown to size 14.
Turn 182, 1220 AD: Whales has grown to size 12.
Turn 182, 1220 AD: Clams has grown to size 9.
Turn 182, 1220 AD: Charlemagne has 80 gold available for trade.
Turn 182, 1220 AD: You are the worst enemy of Sitting Bull, Charlemagne.
Turn 182, 1220 AD: Sitting Bull is the worst enemy of Peter.
Turn 182, 1220 AD: Charlemagne is the worst enemy of Saladin, Louis XIV, Bismarck.
Turn 182, 1220 AD: Louis XIV will trade Iron
Turn 182, 1220 AD: Will Trade Map: Bismarck, Charlemagne, Louis XIV, Peter, Saladin, Sitting Bull
Turn 182, 1220 AD: Will Sign Peace Treaty: Charlemagne, Sitting Bull

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[Mitchum]

Good luck, MG!

 

[WastinTime]

Cmon Peter. Show me the money. I wonder if we can trick him into showing his cash?

 

[WastinTime]

Gimme a few minutes to test an idea before you roll to T179 (if I caught you in time)

 

[WastinTime]

Yes. Try this...
Cancel whale deal.
Trade Corp for 100+ gold if available

Optionally...
re-do whale deal.
or, we could cancel 1 more seafood and save $ on corps (but do the cash trade first!!)

Let's pause to discuss.

I guess there is no rush to try this, this turn. We could just see if we can naturally get his $$ for a couple turns.

 

[LowtherCastle]

Peter picking Physics next is a million miles from guaranteed. There’s massive randomness built into AI tech choice. What we want is Peter picking as often as possible till he picks Communism. If he picks Physics, we trade it to him when we get it and he picks again. That’s two picks. 2>1

 

[WastinTime]

If he picks Physics, we trade it to him when we get it and he picks again.

No, we don't trade it to him (unless he has a ton of gold) because he will quit Physics and switch on his own once the GS is gone. Or at least we can wait 1 turn to find out.

 

[WastinTime]

Maybe I can cancel one seafood deal to Peter and sell 1 seafood to Saladin?

good thinking. Hmm.. I'd like to lock that 5gpt in permanently vs a seafood deal we might cancel in 10t.
Any other options?

 

[WastinTime]

What about marble to Sal after HE? Are we gonna finish HE 180? 181? 182? Do we need marble after that?

 

[WastinTime]

SB's trireme is spotted 2W1N of Cahokia.

I"m glad you posted the screenshot. You're not blocking the in right spot. move 1S to the only coast tile that Tri can use to reach Canal. We don't want to attack it. We want it to attack us.

 

[WastinTime]

Prague has 2* garrison 3 longbow and nothing else. The city defense is 5%.

so it's bombarded and Bismarck has Knights! (now that we gave him horse) Shouldn't be long. I guess we're not getting much conquer gold or pillage.

 

[Kaitzilla]

What about marble to Sal after HE? Are we gonna finish HE 180? 181? 182? Do we need marble after that?

Our capital can use marble to put hammers into Sistine, Hagia, or Taj if we suspect one of the AI is building it.

I think we should sell clam to Arabs for 5 per turn and cancel a seafood from Peter (the Whale I think) and lose 1 per turn in all cities.

We don't have anything to give us reliably after cashing in Heroic Epic except beating up Charlemagne.
Building West Point in multiple cities won't cash out for a long time.