My 2-turn PPP is done!
https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/sgotm-26-home-slices.657330/page-211#post-15855423
LowtherCastle finished up 4 days ago I think.
[BTS] SGOTM 26 - Home Slices
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My 2-turn PPP is done!
https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/sgotm-26-home-slices.657330/page-211#post-15855423
LowtherCastle finished up 4 days ago I think.
Sounds like you have it. 1 angry for 1 turn. Still need advice here?
I think it is optimal, but I hate having 1 angry citizen.
Cow City can grow 1 pop pretty easily in 2 turns, but that makes things worse with Clam City have 2 angry citizens for 1 turn.
We must keep in mind that we don't want to whip a Forge on T148 anywhere do to bulbing.
T150 Forge whips at the earliest I think.
Uh, check over the other stuff please.
I hopefully plan to do something very stupid.
This will be our 1st war where a loss of our city is game over.
We have all our Monasteries, so Sci. Method completing won't game over us.
Ah, demand conditions!
Let me add those.
Peter losing +3
trade routes with Sitting Bull (because we DOW) and slipping 1 turn on Engineering would also be a pretty big pain, but there is nothing we can do to help Peter tech faster.
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are we going to blockade PP? are we going to cover that galley with caravel?
Trireme, also blockade
GS to Aachen? maybe a shorter boat ride so it can kill the wb and get back for Sushi.
doesn't help to meet France 1-2 turns sooner, right? (edit: oh, I see, we may need to bulb him if we don't get one from Whales)
We could always trade SB machinery to get him higher in score too. That's of no use to him without metal, right?
are we closing borders with SB? or just the DoW closes them? That will teleport his wb too...wherever that is.
Trireme, also blockade
GS to Aachen? maybe a shorter boat ride so it can kill the wb and get back for Sushi.
doesn't help to meet France 1-2 turns sooner, right? (edit: oh, I see, we may need to bulb him if we don't get one from Whales)
We could always trade SB machinery to get him higher in score too. That's of no use to him without metal, right?
are we closing borders with SB? or just the DoW closes them? That will teleport his wb too...wherever that is.
obviously look for newly available gold after he went into anarchy. Or is that just a myth?
Wait a minute, I know SB loses trade routes with Peter if we DOW, but does Peter actually lose trade routes with Sitting Bull?
I need to test!
A trade embargo would be a bad idea if Peter is still getting fat trade routes from Sitting Bull during the war.
I thought it was true, but I'm just not seeing it so far in this game.
There is a small chance the Poverty Point galley will sail into our waters in between T146 and T147 and blockade our seafood in Canal City.
This would cause our city to starve down 1 population.
Should we have our 3rd galley halt at 1N of wine on T146 for defense?
It might provoke a fight that we lose and we still get blockaded.
Trireme should try to draw up a Galley to fight inside our borders.
How about blockade 3W1N of SB's capital?
That is close to our borders and shuts down all the water tiles on the west side of his capital.
I need to test!
A trade embargo would be a bad idea if Peter is still getting fat trade routes from Sitting Bull during the war.
Right.
I thought it was true, but I'm just not seeing it so far in this game.
Caravel will cover the 2 Galleys 1W of Poverty Point ya.
There is a small chance the Poverty Point galley will sail into our waters in between T146 and T147 and blockade our seafood in Canal City.
This would cause our city to starve down 1 population.
Should we have our 3rd galley halt at 1N of wine on T146 for defense?
It might provoke a fight that we lose and we still get blockaded.
Trireme should try to draw up a Galley to fight inside our borders.
How about blockade 3W1N of SB's capital?
That is close to our borders and shuts down all the water tiles on the west side of his capital.
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I see the wb can be on Clams' clams T148. Should Caravel 1 go take care of it? Our empty galleys can block and I doubt he will attack with 1 galley.
Or will that wb head towards Peter? in which case it could block Cows' seafood 149,
Our Galley can get back to save Clam City from the workboat menace T150 2 turns late.
Our Caravel going to Aachen means we can bulb Astro on T150 for maximum science.
Then again, bulbing Astro T150 is a bad idea if Peter is going to start it while we get Medicine between T151 to T155.
I'm really not sure how pesky that workboat will be.
Faster hunting Caravel means meeting France later which means less
on an Astro bulb.
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Worst Case Scenario
We DOW SB T146.
Peter switches to Tao and falls to Pleased with us.
Sitting Bull, who is at war with us, sees Peter Pleased with us and bribes him to DOW us for Nationalism.
Peter DOW's us and we lose our Great Merchant.
We also lose the ability to get techs from Peter such as Engineering or other juicy things later.
< 1% chance right?
**Edit**
Wait, when did we beg Peter?
We might have a Peace Treaty still.
We DOW SB T146.
Peter switches to Tao and falls to Pleased with us.
Sitting Bull, who is at war with us, sees Peter Pleased with us and bribes him to DOW us for Nationalism.
Peter DOW's us and we lose our Great Merchant.
We also lose the ability to get techs from Peter such as Engineering or other juicy things later.
< 1% chance right?
**Edit**
Wait, when did we beg Peter?
We might have a Peace Treaty still.
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+1 angry citizen in profit and canal each on T148.
We have a Peace Treaty with Peter for 3 more turnsWorst Case Scenario
We DOW SB T146.
Peter switches to Tao and falls to Pleased with us.
Sitting Bull, who is at war with us, sees Peter Pleased with us and bribes him to DOW us for Nationalism.
Peter DOW's us and we lose our Great Merchant.
We also lose the ability to get techs from Peter such as Engineering or other juicy things later.
< 1% chance right?
**Edit**
Wait, when did we beg Peter?
We might have a Peace Treaty still.
The earliest Pleased Tao Peter can accept a bribe to DOW us is T148, and we will be sharing Bureau bonus with him on T148 and will be Friendly.
We will also trade him Nationalism for Engineering on T148 before it is his turn.
Crisis over!
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Ok, I've changed my mind.Our Galley can get back to save Clam City from the workboat menace T150 2 turns late.
Our Caravel going to Aachen means we can bulb Astro on T150 for maximum science.
Then again, bulbing Astro T150 is a bad idea if Peter is going to start it while we get Medicine between T151 to T155.
I'm really not sure how pesky that workboat will be.
Faster hunting Caravel means meeting France later which means less
That workboat is going to be a pest!
Great Scientist will be dropped off early and meet France T151.
I will work 1 coastal tile in Canal City instead of 1 Scientist on T145.There is a small chance the Poverty Point galley will sail into our waters in between T146 and T147 and blockade our seafood in Canal City.
This would cause our city to starve down 1 population.
The extra food means any surprise blockade won't cause any population loss.
right, so we send caravel 1, yes?
Send both Caravels?
The Trireme might need support against 2 S.B. Galleys, but sure!
No, the galley can't move 2 and then blockade. Ours can, but his can't.
I'm fine with sailing to Aachen
Blockade takes no movement points to activate I think.
Good catch.
I need to plan for Size 7 Canal 3-pop whipping a Forge T148 with 8/120 Forge.
Might have to work that mine 1 turn.
Profit losing the 2 happiness from Barracks T148 is a bigger pain. Hmm
Might have to have Size 7 Profit 3-pop whip a Forge T148 too.
We are double bulbing T149 and triple/quad bulbing T150.
Should we just live with the angry citizens for 2 turns?
Ya, we probably should.
6 population is 90
for 5 bulbs.2 angry citizens for 2 turns can't compare to +90
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Ok, I see it now.
Caravel 1 can save Clam City on T149.
Caravel 2 can sail to Aachen and save Cow City on T149 too.
One of them will kill the workboat for sure.
I'll change the PPP back to dropoff in Aachen.
