[BTS] SGOTM 26 - Home Slices

[WastinTime]

I think we should sell clam for 5 per turn and cancel a seafood from Peter and lose 1 per turn in all cities.

I'm ok with this. Just realize that we only save about 9? or 10 per turn (for 2 less seafood) and lose 7 food empire wide.
In ~5 turns, we will be below -90gpt. (-80 if we do 2 less seafood)
And then Bismarck spreads sushi ... Oh wait, we put him in caste didn't we? Hmm...

since we can't do marble yet. I suppose clam for 5 and cancel whale deal yeah.

 

[MirrorGuard]

I"m glad you posted the screenshot. You're not blocking the in right spot. move 1S to the only coast tile that Tri can use to reach Canal. We don't want to attack it. We want it to attack us.

I was thinking, what if the caravel dies. Then our trireme would finish off SB's in his territory, losing 2 great general point. Ours run faster so they can always cover the seafood before SB does...Well. I will put 2 boats back to the proper choke point...

And then Bismarck spreads sushi... Oh wait, we put him in caste didn't we?

Yes. I was thinking about slowing down Bismark a bit from getting conquer gold from HRE...

 

[WastinTime]

I was thinking, what if the caravel dies. Then our trireme would finish off SB's in his territory,

Oh, that's smart. Put the caravel 1S to block but not the Trireme. so if we lose, Tri cleans up the Tri in our culture.

 

[WastinTime]

Yes. I was thinking about slowing down Bismark a bit from getting conquer gold from HRE...

That's good reasoning. And I wanted Bismarck to grow pop, so not-slavery is good for that. If Peter has more than 25% of world pop, we can't win, and he had 21% last I checked.

 

[WastinTime]

We should be down to about -110gpt after the trade deals. We don't need to do temple+HE this turnset if we get 100+ from Peter.
That's 5 turns of money. When does pillaging start?

 

[WastinTime]

Oh! and on T180 our rate drops -40gpt !!! because Science can build wealth.
Are you sure you wanna lose that +1 food?
j/k go ahead and do the deals for 10t

 

[MirrorGuard]

OH, and on T180 our rate drops to about -65gpt !!! because Science can build wealth.

ya. Silver now has 199/200 in HE. No rush to finish it though.

! Saladin doesn't need clams anymore. He traded silk for Peter's clam. Now Peter is cautious to him...

 

[Kaitzilla]

Oh! and on T180 our rate drops -40gpt !!! because Science can build wealth.
Are you sure you wanna lose that +1 food?
j/k go ahead and do the deals for 10t

I hope to sell the liberated 2nd Whale for another pile of good per turn in the future.
Or maybe Peter will finally get a 2nd crab, and we can try to trade Whale for Clam + Crab, but who knows how likely that is.

! Saladin doesn't need clams anymore. He traded silk for Peter's clam. Now Peter is cautious to him...

Aww.
Let's just forget about getting the 5 per turn for now.

We can try again once Arabs have Sushi and will take any of our seafood.

Another opportunity will be if HRE loses his northwest city and Bismarck gets 2 Wheat.

 

[WastinTime]

! Saladin doesn't need clams anymore.

bummer. I guess we trade whale for 5?

 

[WastinTime]

And then gift a clam to ?? Louis? or can we sell one somewhere?

 

[MirrorGuard]

....Well Now I'm against it since gold is not that a big problem. With extra food we can always work scientists instead. The whale deal with Peter gives us 1gpt. Giving it to Saladin means a net gain of 4 gpt and we will probably lose the whale-seafood deal forever, because Peter has a good city spot to catch whale.

 

[WastinTime]

remember to stop our sushi-caravel in ocean tiles until it unloads (or did it already unload?) Don't want a lucky HRE boat to kill it.

 

[WastinTime]

Now I'm against it since gold is not that a big problem.

ok. I agree. Let's keep the Petal to the Medal and keep our food.

 

[WastinTime]

wait a couple turns for Peter's gold then. We can try the cancel trick if we really need the gold. If we cancel we could lose the 1 gpt.

 

[WastinTime]

Prague captured by Bismark. A great scientist is born in Russia.

Good thing we didn't give Corp and have him pick Physics. He would just wasted the GS bulbing it. He'll probably bulb Physics anyway.

Wheat is probably available next turn? or now? due to Prague falling. What should we do there?

 

[WastinTime]

Prague falling

We might be able to pillage around Prague before it comes out of revolt. Once it's Bismarck's culture we get nothing. So should we go there ASAP?
I suppose HRE will keep tiles pressured from other cities. Maybe not urgent.

 

[Kaitzilla]

Wheat is probably available next turn? or now? due to Prague falling. What should we do there?

He might already have the 2nd wheat.
We could pay 5 for Bismarck's map to know for sure.

On the other hand, Bismark might have pillaged it, or it might get pillaged by HRE.
It is a bit risky to trade away our wheat to Arabs for 5 per turn.

Is there a way to tell if Bismark has 2 Wheat while we still have Wheat?

 

[WastinTime]

probably was pillaged. Our galleon might've just passed there, or is returning soon.

 

[WastinTime]

sweet. 220g was worth the wait! trade Corp now before it's gone. I forgot about the sushi spread expense.

 

[WastinTime]

empire has 121g-124 gpt, physics 1 turn.

is Science building Wealth? -124 seems high.