SGOTM4 - Team Smackster
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smackster
SGOTM
Our current estimated date of 1762, is a mere 7 turns from the current 20k leader at 1745
Yes, but with 80 turns to go until 1740 we need to gain another ~700 culture during those turns from new buildings. ToE (3), Hoover(2), Wall street(2) and Intel agency (1) available in IA. With tech costs at 7+ turns I guess we will barely get out of IA before end of game.
1745 could be a diplo victory(?)
1745 could be a diplo victory(?)
This is my 4th turn and we've got a leader while attacking Indian city. (I have luck with Ghandi this game).
I will rush ToE and I don't really want to take electronics and AT as free tech,
instead i will get Electronics and corporation,
This way we will have chance to start building stockexchanges in all cities and we will also have 7-8 turns for another leader hunt to build Hoovers in Utica.
I know nobody but Smackster and maybe DH are going to read this tonight but at least i will get your guys opinions...
I will stop when I have ToE built.
I will rush ToE and I don't really want to take electronics and AT as free tech,
instead i will get Electronics and corporation,
This way we will have chance to start building stockexchanges in all cities and we will also have 7-8 turns for another leader hunt to build Hoovers in Utica.
I know nobody but Smackster and maybe DH are going to read this tonight but at least i will get your guys opinions...
I will stop when I have ToE built.
Pre-flight: I've noticed slave guards bordering the shores have been removed and turkey have a city on top of our wool....
IBT Germans founded Munich on the southern tip of our island.
T1. 1345AD
Assigned workers to mine irrigated plains around Rusicade, that will give us better shields output, we have a major food surplus over there
We probably could irrigate plains around Utica but since it is not having any major builds, I keep it as it is producing max gold/science.
Science slider is down to 90%. I am not sure if I should attack Athens, its size has decreased again, another draft, I am facing rifles and muskets against knights. Not very good odds... maybe I should move all the knights towards another smaller city.
Captured 2 Indian workers
T2 1350 AD
Really nothing happened here... Elites are recovering near Indian city. I also pillaged tiles around Athens.
The passage blocker, I am sorry to say but we don't need it anymore, so it's moving to the port to be upgraded.
T3 1355
Moving knight towards Corinph
T4 1360AD...
Turning science slider down another 10%
Elite MDI attacks spear kills nothing
Elite knight attacks spear and dies...
Another elite attack and Hamilcar raises
Taking over Indian city and gift it to Babylon
Medicine in 3 turns...
Any warfare from now on doesn't have any sense; I will suspend any active action against Greece with exception of unit training and some pillaging. I'd like to leave Athens alone for now.
T5 1365AD
Pillaged some of the Greek lands... Is it time to make peace with them??? I don't really want to make peace since it
Wont take 20 turns to get to the point when we need to declare on someone again, and Greeks look like the best target at the moment.
IBT Persia and India signed trade embargo against us...
T6. 1370AD
Killed 3 barbarians and have one knight promoted to elite.
T7 1375 AD.
Medicine is researched. SM in 7 turns. Lux deal of ottomans expire
The same turns ottomans research MT, I trade Electricity to MT 24GPT, 4 luxuries and some gold
Sell Electricity to Germans for 4gpt and 19 gold, the rest of AI are broke.
Upgraded some cavalry, will send to the Greek land next turn.
With all the knights on Greek land I am going to play a trick by taking a city and then gifting it, that should teleport our armies back to our land safely, then we can upgrade.
To keep army costs down, Ive disbanded non elite MDIs and swordsmen we had.
Sell Chivalry to Vikings for 9 gold and 2gpt
T8 1380 AD....
Upgraded some cavalry, loaded to caravels, more shipment next turn...
BTW, this is a significant date. Thats when we finished the previous game.
IBT. Crap, lost few workers (5 I think) to barbarian
T9 1385AD
Still can't trade with AIs... I give Steam power to Babylonians for 36 gold hoping rails will bring more gold.
T10 1390 AD...
Bunch of galleons loaded with cavalry moving towards Greek land, nothing else is happening.
T11 1395 AD
Keep moving galleons.
T12 1490 AD
Scientific Method in 2 turns. We don't have much money and I am disappointed with AIs....
As a matter of fact Greece is also at war with Babylonians and that is probably why Hammurabi is so useless.
Osman all of the sudden rich and gives us 75gpt for Medicine. I think we should take it, unless Osman is our next target but then we will lose the only worthy trading partner.
We probably should disband the army we have, just wasting maintenance on it.
There is a pair of Indian settler and spear, Id say let them go and attack in 2 turns after rushing ToE, may be we are lucky and get a leader.
Utica 10835 points and 108 CPT.
Not the best set of turns, but at least we have a leader and now we can use cavalry.
I still suggest we get corporation as one our free tech and another would be electronics...
Then we research atomic theory ourselves, while making a pre-build in Utica and then build Hoover. (Unless, we are lucky and 1st attack against Indian spear bring as a leader)
Or may be we should even reseach hospitals, we need more population to produce more gold and shields, that will help us to get overal research much faster... Hospitals will help A LOT
Save
EDIT: I've noticed XTeam with 1250AD is ahead of us.. They must have finished the game and i bet anyone it is not 20K. Most likely conquest or maybe diplomatic although latter is not very realistic given the slow pace of research.
IBT Germans founded Munich on the southern tip of our island.
T1. 1345AD
Assigned workers to mine irrigated plains around Rusicade, that will give us better shields output, we have a major food surplus over there
We probably could irrigate plains around Utica but since it is not having any major builds, I keep it as it is producing max gold/science.
Science slider is down to 90%. I am not sure if I should attack Athens, its size has decreased again, another draft, I am facing rifles and muskets against knights. Not very good odds... maybe I should move all the knights towards another smaller city.
Captured 2 Indian workers
T2 1350 AD
Really nothing happened here... Elites are recovering near Indian city. I also pillaged tiles around Athens.
The passage blocker, I am sorry to say but we don't need it anymore, so it's moving to the port to be upgraded.
T3 1355
Moving knight towards Corinph
T4 1360AD...
Turning science slider down another 10%
Elite MDI attacks spear kills nothing
Elite knight attacks spear and dies...
Another elite attack and Hamilcar raises
Taking over Indian city and gift it to Babylon
Medicine in 3 turns...
Any warfare from now on doesn't have any sense; I will suspend any active action against Greece with exception of unit training and some pillaging. I'd like to leave Athens alone for now.
T5 1365AD
Pillaged some of the Greek lands... Is it time to make peace with them??? I don't really want to make peace since it
Wont take 20 turns to get to the point when we need to declare on someone again, and Greeks look like the best target at the moment.
IBT Persia and India signed trade embargo against us...
T6. 1370AD
Killed 3 barbarians and have one knight promoted to elite.
T7 1375 AD.
Medicine is researched. SM in 7 turns. Lux deal of ottomans expire
The same turns ottomans research MT, I trade Electricity to MT 24GPT, 4 luxuries and some gold
Sell Electricity to Germans for 4gpt and 19 gold, the rest of AI are broke.
Upgraded some cavalry, will send to the Greek land next turn.
With all the knights on Greek land I am going to play a trick by taking a city and then gifting it, that should teleport our armies back to our land safely, then we can upgrade.
To keep army costs down, Ive disbanded non elite MDIs and swordsmen we had.
Sell Chivalry to Vikings for 9 gold and 2gpt
T8 1380 AD....
Upgraded some cavalry, loaded to caravels, more shipment next turn...
BTW, this is a significant date. Thats when we finished the previous game.
IBT. Crap, lost few workers (5 I think) to barbarian
T9 1385AD
Still can't trade with AIs... I give Steam power to Babylonians for 36 gold hoping rails will bring more gold.
T10 1390 AD...
Bunch of galleons loaded with cavalry moving towards Greek land, nothing else is happening.
T11 1395 AD
Keep moving galleons.
T12 1490 AD
Scientific Method in 2 turns. We don't have much money and I am disappointed with AIs....
As a matter of fact Greece is also at war with Babylonians and that is probably why Hammurabi is so useless.
Osman all of the sudden rich and gives us 75gpt for Medicine. I think we should take it, unless Osman is our next target but then we will lose the only worthy trading partner.
We probably should disband the army we have, just wasting maintenance on it.
There is a pair of Indian settler and spear, Id say let them go and attack in 2 turns after rushing ToE, may be we are lucky and get a leader.
Utica 10835 points and 108 CPT.
Not the best set of turns, but at least we have a leader and now we can use cavalry.
I still suggest we get corporation as one our free tech and another would be electronics...
Then we research atomic theory ourselves, while making a pre-build in Utica and then build Hoover. (Unless, we are lucky and 1st attack against Indian spear bring as a leader)
Or may be we should even reseach hospitals, we need more population to produce more gold and shields, that will help us to get overal research much faster... Hospitals will help A LOT
Save
EDIT: I've noticed XTeam with 1250AD is ahead of us.. They must have finished the game and i bet anyone it is not 20K. Most likely conquest or maybe diplomatic although latter is not very realistic given the slow pace of research.
Well done! A leader! Corporation cost 2666 beakers, Atomic Theory 5333 beakers and Electronics 4800 beakers. I guess that sort of decides it. Take AT and Electronics as Free techs. We will build ToE the turn after researching SM since we need to disband the leader in Utica for ToE. Remember to set research to 0% that turn for max gold yield... 
I hope Tarkeel can play soon... He seems to be quite busy these days studying.
Should we pass the game to Smackster if Tarkeel does not respond until night falls in Norway?
I didn't check the tech costs before and now i agree with Wotan on the free tech choices...
We should also research Hospitals after corporation ASAP.
Should we pass the game to Smackster if Tarkeel does not respond until night falls in Norway?
I didn't check the tech costs before and now i agree with Wotan on the free tech choices...
We should also research Hospitals after corporation ASAP.
Wotan said:The question is if Smackster is "fully functional" tonight... Rox Sox up 3-0 vs Cardinals and a new and possible final match tonight in St.Louis? I guess he will stay glued to the TV not the PC tonight...
You are probably correct. Not beeing a baseball fan i had no idea what's going on in world series until now...
smackster
SGOTM
I may be able to play regardless of the baseball tonight. So I'll take the swap with Tarkeel assuming he does not turn up.Wotan said:The question is if Smackster is "fully functional" tonight... Red Sox up 3-0 vs Cardinals and a new and possible final match tonight in St.Louis? I guess he will stay glued to the TV not the PC tonight...
Agreed with the tech choices. My plan beyond that is to just get back to leader farming. I'm still convinced that the HE has a negative effect on leaders, have you noticed we are getting less now that we have it, or is it just my paranoia.
smackster
Yes, please do some leader hunt... 
You will find 6 galleons filled with Cavalry heading to the Greece with scheduled arrival in 2 turns and I have 8 more leftover knights already there.
That should cover your army needs.
I am afraid there will be only 2 elite knights for you to operate with and obviously no elite cavalries at a moment.
Few elites are also based in india so you can use one after we rush a wonder to kill indian spear/settler pair and may the luck be with you!.
You will find 6 galleons filled with Cavalry heading to the Greece with scheduled arrival in 2 turns and I have 8 more leftover knights already there.
That should cover your army needs.
I am afraid there will be only 2 elite knights for you to operate with and obviously no elite cavalries at a moment.
Few elites are also based in india so you can use one after we rush a wonder to kill indian spear/settler pair and may the luck be with you!.
smackster
SGOTM
What do you guys think, should we start playing up to 15 each to get this baby finished.
As we've not heard from DH, I'll put him on Autoskip, and unless Tarkeel apears his will be a skip too, not a swap, so it will be back to Wotan and then Dman, and at 15 turns each we'll not be far from finish by the weekend.
smackster
As we've not heard from DH, I'll put him on Autoskip, and unless Tarkeel apears his will be a skip too, not a swap, so it will be back to Wotan and then Dman, and at 15 turns each we'll not be far from finish by the weekend.
smackster
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