SGOTM5 - Russia Maintenance Thread

[Northern Pike]

Perhaps just "player submitting save" should be the field's label? In fairness to I., "forum name" does create a moment of doubt as to whether the name of a player or of a forum is being requested.

 

[AlanH]

I was just surprised that this is the first time it's been raised, since the players have all been doing this for a while. I've changed it. How's that?

 

[Tone]

I've no problem with the save name (it's me ) but I would have been stuck on how to upload a save if I hadn't got a link from the previous SGOTM. (or is it in a really obvious place and I've just missed it?)

 

[I. Larkin]

I was just surprised that this is the first time it's been raised, since the players have all been doing this for a while. I've changed it. How's that?

Will try at next submitions. Was unsure, team name, team leader name, forum name ets.
Have tryed many variants, gave up and send msg. Thanks for replys.
Ivan

 

[mad-bax]

PTW Bug in game.

Sorry guys but there is a bug in the PTW version of the game.
Please can you pause playing at the end of your turnsets so that I can fix the save files please?

1.29f games are unaffected.
I apologise for the incovenience.

 

[AlanH]

Will try at next submitions. Was unsure, team name, team leader name, forum name ets.
Have tryed many variants, gave up and send msg. Thanks for replys.
Ivan

OK, now I understand. The problem was that your name was in the database as I.Larkin, not I. Larkin - no space. I've changed it. Sorry for my previous impatience.

 

[mad-bax]

OK guys. This is important so you need to pay attention. I have completely messed up the PTW game. The bug affects the game from turn 1 and progressively disadvantages the AI throughout the game. The game saves can be fixed, but the AI will never recover, and the game will be very easy for you all, and certainly not comparable to the 1.29f game. I am gutted because it was a blunder that should never have got past me, and also because I like the map. I won't divulge what the actual bug is now in case we decide to continue to play the game.

The way I see it we have 3 options.

1. Fix the saves at 1000BC and play on with seperate awards for PTW and 1.29f.
2. Restart the game with you trying to rconstruct your game from your turnlogs.
3. Scrap the game and use an entirely new map.

It's a pity that this came up over a weekend as the forum traffic is so low.

If I were to be completely selfish, I would say we fix the saves at 1000BC and I give the AI some "help" and you continue to play. I will proceed on this basis.

Now one bug has surfaced I half expect the floodgates to open. I sincerely hope not however.

I will begin to fix the saves and make them available again by the end of the weekend hopefully. Those teams that have not played to 1000BC should do so.

I can only aplogise for this mistake, I feel awful about it. Just too many changes in one go.

 

[Mistfit]

Anything that you decide is good with me MB. Mistakes cannot be eliminated completely but I will offer my services to play test future SGOTM's before they are released. I have all of the different games so I could play them all. I know that this would emilinate me from the competition but if it would be helpful I'd be willing.

 

[grs]

1 or 2 (and ...)

 

[Tone]

If I were to be completely selfish, I would say we fix the saves at 1000BC and I give the AI some "help" and you continue to play. I will proceed on this basis.

I'm happy with this suggestion. It looks like only two teams have got beyond that point so this seems sensible but then again I'll go with whatever you suggest. IMHO the amount of work you have put into this game (and SGOTM in general) entitles you to be "selfish" every so often.

 

[Demiurge]

As a member of one of the teams potentially at a disadvantage because of this, I say fix the saves and play on. I would think giving the ai a stack or two of tanks should just about even things up.

 

[MOTH]

option 1 or 2 is fine with me. I doubt that any team at 1000BC has discovered much of the map or contacted any other civs. Ok, maybe they would have, but it would take some lucky goody hut popping....

 

[mad-bax]

OK. Yesterday and today I have been working on a way to get the games to near parity. I failed of course, but Alanh and I have mended the saves. Alan fixed the bug and I made a small change that I hope will balance the PTW and 1.29f versions of the game to some degree. I played a few tens of turns from one of your 1.29f saves and played to the same point from a fixed PTW save and compared the techs, units and improvements for the AI in each game. I was surprised at how similar they were in fact. This is not to say the games across software versions will be comparable, but hopefully the PTW game will now play the way it was designed.

Once again I can only apologise for my mistake, and hope that you can continue and enjoy the game.

 

[dmanakho]

M-B, AlanH!!! Thank you both guys for all the hard work you put into this.

and is it possible to reveal the bug info at the time when game is over or about to be over?

 

[AlanH]

and is it possible to reveal the bug info at the time when game is over or about to be over?

Might ...

For now, suffice to say that it looks like it was caused by a problem in the PtW map editor, which M-B could reasonably have expected to behave better than that.

 

[Tomoyo]

Question: How do I "use" the GOTM server to upload the saves? Apparantly I can't just upload them to the CFC server like in any SG.

 

[Demiurge]

Tomoyo, go to this link to access the SGOTM submissions page. Enter your forum name exactly and upload the file.

The link can also be found at the top left of the main GOTM page.

 

[Tomoyo]

I didn't mean the last save... I heard somewhere that I was supposed to upload it a certain place that the save could be checked...

 

[AlanH]

That's what Demiurge meant. When you have played a turn set, go to http://gotm.civfanatics.net/submit/sgotm.php and upload the save from your last turn. It will then be available for your next team player to download, and the score will appear on the progress graph. You can also copy/paste the link to the uploaded file to your team thread if you like. it's really very easy.

 

[Tomoyo]

Oh, that was easy.

Thanks!