SGOTM5 - Team jeffelammar
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jeffelammar
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Ok. Fun with photoshop 
The attached images include
1. American Salt. It may be worth it to send a cossack or two over to pillage it.
2. The Cossacks that I was sending to the mountainous island area.
3. My intended crossings to the mountainous land. I had intended to send 3 or 4 up to the north facing arrow and then several more along the western facing arrow.
4. An intended route for the cossacks that land. The idea being to end up with them clearing out the mountains and becoming availiable for India cleanup if necessary.
A few more notes.
1. France will sign an ROP for several luxuries. It may be worth doing so we can ROP abuse them in a one turn attack. If you chose not to, we should still attack them as soon as possible. Their forces are currently attacking arabia.
2. Byblos - For the last 4 turns the egyptians have been "we're getting close to a deal" to give us Byblos for peace. If we can take out one or two more cities, we should have them. A galley is on its way to near byblos. When the forces are availiable, we should use it to transport troops to take out the Egyptian city on the other island near there.
3. I think the Iroquois 1 tile is going to be a pain. At this point I have started rushing galleys near there to starve it.
4. Related to the above. we may want to research toward frigates faster than we currently are. If we get Frigates we can bombard that city to the stone age.
The attached images include
1. American Salt. It may be worth it to send a cossack or two over to pillage it.
2. The Cossacks that I was sending to the mountainous island area.
3. My intended crossings to the mountainous land. I had intended to send 3 or 4 up to the north facing arrow and then several more along the western facing arrow.
4. An intended route for the cossacks that land. The idea being to end up with them clearing out the mountains and becoming availiable for India cleanup if necessary.
A few more notes.
1. France will sign an ROP for several luxuries. It may be worth doing so we can ROP abuse them in a one turn attack. If you chose not to, we should still attack them as soon as possible. Their forces are currently attacking arabia.
2. Byblos - For the last 4 turns the egyptians have been "we're getting close to a deal" to give us Byblos for peace. If we can take out one or two more cities, we should have them. A galley is on its way to near byblos. When the forces are availiable, we should use it to transport troops to take out the Egyptian city on the other island near there.
3. I think the Iroquois 1 tile is going to be a pain. At this point I have started rushing galleys near there to starve it.
4. Related to the above. we may want to research toward frigates faster than we currently are. If we get Frigates we can bombard that city to the stone age.
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Great jobs, guys. Before my last turn I had thought that 10 cities in a set was unrealistically high, and I was amazed that it wasn't. It seems that we are now shooting for 20.
I'm in favor of sending those cossacks on the west end of the long island over and up the mountains. Starting the mopping up there won't delay things elsewhere much, and wandering through the mountains is going to take a while.
I think it is probably worth pillaging the American saltpeter.
Have we put anybody on the 1 tile islands clumped down to the south? It'd be a real pain to finally get the Iroquois island only to have someone settle those.
Good job getting the French and Arabs at war. This should make it rather easier to sweep through them. It was nice of the French to build Bach's for us, too. That should help our score a bit.
I'm in favor of sending those cossacks on the west end of the long island over and up the mountains. Starting the mopping up there won't delay things elsewhere much, and wandering through the mountains is going to take a while.
I think it is probably worth pillaging the American saltpeter.
Have we put anybody on the 1 tile islands clumped down to the south? It'd be a real pain to finally get the Iroquois island only to have someone settle those.
Good job getting the French and Arabs at war. This should make it rather easier to sweep through them. It was nice of the French to build Bach's for us, too. That should help our score a bit.
grahamiam
In debt to Mr. Geisel
looks like a good plan, jeff good luck jd!
good luck jd!1255 AD (1) - Captured Chicago, signed RoP with France.
1260 AD (2) - Golden age ending.
1265 AD (3) - Capture Khurasan, Anjar, Baghdad, and Trotsky rises from battle.
1270 AD (4) - Capture Mecca, Caughnawaga, Washington, San Francisco, Buto, Abydos, Damascus. Raze Busiris.
1275 AD (5) - I didn't get the tiniest bit of luck this turn. Cossacks lost left and right to fortified spears and pikes without terrain bonuses. Capture Dover, Aden. If the RNG had even approached fair this turn, we would have captured four more. English destroyed. 8 civs left.
1280 AD (6) - Starts off like the last turn, but things do turn around. Capture Philadelphia, Miami, Umtata, Kufah, Basra, Muscat, Mansura. Zulu destroyed. 7 civs left.
1285 AD (7) - Capture Calixtlahuaca, Hieraconpolis, Bukhara, Aleppo, Najran, Gandasetaigon, Oka. Aztecs destroyed. 6 civs left.
1290 AD (8) - Capture Fez, Yamama, Fustat, Boston.
1295 AD (9) - There is a pikeman in Gayagaahe that just won't die. Two cossacks failed to kill it earlier and popped a leader for them, and then two more just failed. RoP rape France. Sign RoP with India to prepare for RoP rape of them. Capture Shiraz, Jaipur (American), Athribis, Edfu, Chondote, Tours, Avignon, Lyons, Toulouse, Amiens,. Arabs destroyed. 5 civs left.
IT - I think Egypt's capital's borders expanded or something, because our trade route between center island and big island was cut off, causing civil disorder. I didn't bother fixing any of it, as I was hoping we could find out for sure where the problem was.
1300 AD (10) - Capture Besancon, Cherbourg, Paris (in a hugely risky attack), something Iroquois. Made peace with Egypt and got the 1 tile island, and that solved our happiness problem. French apparently just learned Military Tradition and rushed some cavalry. This isn't good.
Only India and France have any sort of a military left, and France doesn't have much. The RoP stab of India isn't set up yet, but some Cossacks in the what was Arabia were being sent west for transport, and there are other units coming from all over. I think that what is in place will be able to take care of France, though the situation isn't terribly strong at the moment. And we might have triggered their Golden Age. Still, we got three leaders there so have some more armies there. Haven't posted too much, because it is pretty self explanatory at this point.
This will probably be the last set played. Good luck, CKS!
1260 AD (2) - Golden age ending.
1265 AD (3) - Capture Khurasan, Anjar, Baghdad, and Trotsky rises from battle.
1270 AD (4) - Capture Mecca, Caughnawaga, Washington, San Francisco, Buto, Abydos, Damascus. Raze Busiris.
1275 AD (5) - I didn't get the tiniest bit of luck this turn. Cossacks lost left and right to fortified spears and pikes without terrain bonuses. Capture Dover, Aden. If the RNG had even approached fair this turn, we would have captured four more. English destroyed. 8 civs left.
1280 AD (6) - Starts off like the last turn, but things do turn around. Capture Philadelphia, Miami, Umtata, Kufah, Basra, Muscat, Mansura. Zulu destroyed. 7 civs left.
1285 AD (7) - Capture Calixtlahuaca, Hieraconpolis, Bukhara, Aleppo, Najran, Gandasetaigon, Oka. Aztecs destroyed. 6 civs left.
1290 AD (8) - Capture Fez, Yamama, Fustat, Boston.
1295 AD (9) - There is a pikeman in Gayagaahe that just won't die. Two cossacks failed to kill it earlier and popped a leader for them, and then two more just failed. RoP rape France. Sign RoP with India to prepare for RoP rape of them. Capture Shiraz, Jaipur (American), Athribis, Edfu, Chondote, Tours, Avignon, Lyons, Toulouse, Amiens,. Arabs destroyed. 5 civs left.
IT - I think Egypt's capital's borders expanded or something, because our trade route between center island and big island was cut off, causing civil disorder. I didn't bother fixing any of it, as I was hoping we could find out for sure where the problem was.
1300 AD (10) - Capture Besancon, Cherbourg, Paris (in a hugely risky attack), something Iroquois. Made peace with Egypt and got the 1 tile island, and that solved our happiness problem. French apparently just learned Military Tradition and rushed some cavalry. This isn't good.
Only India and France have any sort of a military left, and France doesn't have much. The RoP stab of India isn't set up yet, but some Cossacks in the what was Arabia were being sent west for transport, and there are other units coming from all over. I think that what is in place will be able to take care of France, though the situation isn't terribly strong at the moment. And we might have triggered their Golden Age. Still, we got three leaders there so have some more armies there. Haven't posted too much, because it is pretty self explanatory at this point.
This will probably be the last set played. Good luck, CKS!
denyd
Emperor
That was an incredible turnset (47 cities taken, razed or acquired) 
If we haven't caught team smackster with that, we might never will.
If we haven't caught team smackster with that, we might never will.
jeffelammar
Space for rent
Talk about opening a can of serious whooop-ass.denyd said:That was an incredible turnset (47 cities taken, razed or acquired)
If we haven't caught team smackster with that, we might never will.
Nicely done. I feel like a slacker for merely destroying the Iroquois
About the only thing I would change is our research. I don't think navigation does us much good, but I think we need Magnetism so we can get Frigates to bombard the Iroquois 1 tile city.
Also, we have a bunch of caravels near that city. They should probably occupy the food bonus tiles around there to hopefully start starving them.
Oh and
That was some brilliant play.
One other note: You do get points for foreign workers. I set up a scenario where I could either join regular workers or foreign ones in 4000. I got the same score in 3950 either way.
Oy, sorry about Navigation. I turned off research since I wasn't sure that we needed anything else, and I have been cash rushing 2-3 caravels/turn to completely surround Tyendenaga (Iroquois 1-tile island). The ones in the area were trying to block the Iroquois caravel, in case it was headed somewhere with a settler on board.
Thanks for the compliments, even though the numbers are only really impressive because of the situation. Any of us would have been in the 40-50 range. Unfortunately, I am now nearly positive that smackster's team is done, as team members have posted in other threads. So we fell a little short, in all likelihood, but still a great game by all.
Thanks for the compliments, even though the numbers are only really impressive because of the situation. Any of us would have been in the 40-50 range. Unfortunately, I am now nearly positive that smackster's team is done, as team members have posted in other threads. So we fell a little short, in all likelihood, but still a great game by all.
grahamiam
In debt to Mr. Geisel
nice play 
if we're done in 10T, who cares about what we research next go for it cks 
if we're done in 10T, who cares about what we research next go for it cks Well, it was close, but I wiped out the Iroquois on turn 10. I went ahead and pushed enter to submit the turn after our win. Here is that save. http://gotm.civfanatics.net/saves/sgotm5/jeffelammar_SG005_AD1355_01.sav
I've also attached the end of turn file for 1350 AD.
These turns were nervewracking for me, because there was so much stuff to manage, mostly getting units where they needed to go. I was sure I was going to screw something up, but nothing went horribly wrong. I left a lot of units stranded in transit at the end, but I guess that doesn't matter.
Turn 0, MM some cities, Egypt offers ROP, I accept.
Turn 1, Switch to Physics, but slowly. I need money to rush caravels. Destroy Strasbourg, take Rouen and Grenoble.
Turn 2, Take Seattle - Americans destroyed.
IBT Caughnawaga flips.
Turn 3, Take Bayonne, Poitiers, Caughnawaga, Gayagaahe, Rhiems. Declare on Egypt, take Lisht. Make peace with France, get Marseilles in peace treaty. Get a great leader, disband it for a cossack.
IBT Declare on French when they try to kick me out.
Turn 4, Take El Amarna and Avaris, Egypt is gone. Take Kahnawake. Get another leader, disbanded for a cossack.
IBT Tours flips, French longbow kills our horse army.
Turn 5, Take Orleans, Chartres, Kawauka.
Turn 6, Take Tours - French are gone. Crank up research.
IBT Tyendenaga starts to starve.
Turn 7, Declare on India. Take Lahore, Hyderabad, Karachi, Kolhapur, Bombay. Destroy New Delhi, Pune, New Bombay. Reduce Bangalore, Delhi, and Madras to 1 defender each.
Turn 8, Take Delhi, Calcutta, Madras, Bangalore. Destroy Punjab. 1 Indian city left. Iroquois still won't deal.
Turn 9, Take Ganges. Indians gone. Iroquois still won't deal.
IBT Kahnawake flips - frustratingly, I can't get a unit there to attack this next turn.
Turn 10, 1350 AD, Iroquois will give Tyendenaga, now size 2. I make peace. Then I attack Centralia. After taking Centralia, which has about 6 spearmen, I can use my cossacks on the road (in what had been Iroquois territory) to reach Kahnawake. I take it and the Iroquois are dead. This is my first conquest victory ever, and I'm surprised that I have to deal with all the other units before it acknowledges that we've won.
Firaxis 3713
Jason 7405
This has been a lot of fun, and a great learning experience for me. Thanks to all of you.
I've also attached the end of turn file for 1350 AD.
These turns were nervewracking for me, because there was so much stuff to manage, mostly getting units where they needed to go. I was sure I was going to screw something up, but nothing went horribly wrong. I left a lot of units stranded in transit at the end, but I guess that doesn't matter.
Turn 0, MM some cities, Egypt offers ROP, I accept.
Turn 1, Switch to Physics, but slowly. I need money to rush caravels. Destroy Strasbourg, take Rouen and Grenoble.
Turn 2, Take Seattle - Americans destroyed.
IBT Caughnawaga flips.
Turn 3, Take Bayonne, Poitiers, Caughnawaga, Gayagaahe, Rhiems. Declare on Egypt, take Lisht. Make peace with France, get Marseilles in peace treaty. Get a great leader, disband it for a cossack.
IBT Declare on French when they try to kick me out.
Turn 4, Take El Amarna and Avaris, Egypt is gone. Take Kahnawake. Get another leader, disbanded for a cossack.
IBT Tours flips, French longbow kills our horse army.
Turn 5, Take Orleans, Chartres, Kawauka.
Turn 6, Take Tours - French are gone. Crank up research.
IBT Tyendenaga starts to starve.
Turn 7, Declare on India. Take Lahore, Hyderabad, Karachi, Kolhapur, Bombay. Destroy New Delhi, Pune, New Bombay. Reduce Bangalore, Delhi, and Madras to 1 defender each.
Turn 8, Take Delhi, Calcutta, Madras, Bangalore. Destroy Punjab. 1 Indian city left. Iroquois still won't deal.
Turn 9, Take Ganges. Indians gone. Iroquois still won't deal.
IBT Kahnawake flips - frustratingly, I can't get a unit there to attack this next turn.
Turn 10, 1350 AD, Iroquois will give Tyendenaga, now size 2. I make peace. Then I attack Centralia. After taking Centralia, which has about 6 spearmen, I can use my cossacks on the road (in what had been Iroquois territory) to reach Kahnawake. I take it and the Iroquois are dead. This is my first conquest victory ever, and I'm surprised that I have to deal with all the other units before it acknowledges that we've won.
Firaxis 3713
Jason 7405
This has been a lot of fun, and a great learning experience for me. Thanks to all of you.
grahamiam
In debt to Mr. Geisel
nice close out cks! great job for the entire team, it was an honor to play with all of you 
happy new year! ![[party]](/images/smilies/partytime.gif "Party [party]")
edit: up too late, looking thru other threads. looks like we lost to team offa by 16 turns and team smackster by 7. not bad, considering that these are established teams and we were just thrown together
congratulations all! 
jeffelammar
Space for rent
grahamiam said:
edit: up too late, looking thru other threads. looks like we lost to team offa by 16 turns and team smackster by 7. not bad, considering that these are established teams and we were just thrown together
Way to close it out CKS. Guess we didn't need the frigates after all.
It has been an honor.
denyd
Emperor
Excellant finish gentlemen - a pleasure to play with you all and I hope to see you again in SGOTM6
jeffelammar
Space for rent
I guess the only thing remaining is to write our spoiler. I again am willing to write it, but if someone else wants the honor, they should speak up.
I'm also happy to let someone else have the fun.
I have to say that I love the view of Tyendenaga on the last turn. Now that is a nice naval siege.
I'm also happy to let someone else have the fun.
I have to say that I love the view of Tyendenaga on the last turn. Now that is a nice naval siege.
grahamiam
In debt to Mr. Geisel
i'm a terrible writer so i will not volunteer. if i do it, it'll sound like a test report for a hydraulic brake caliper.
denyd
Emperor
Please go ahead. My plates quite full at the moment and I really enjoyed your last one.
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