SGOTM5 - Team Smackster

My calculations would be:
no more than 2 spears in Atlanta...
About 3-4 spears and at least one sword in Wash.
 
dmanakho said:
My calculations would be:
no more than 2 spears in Atlanta...
About 3-4 spears and at least one sword in Wash.
Sure before the start of their 2-front war. What about Atlanta is that not next to the Spanish? I might send one to Atlanta to have a look, and the rest to Washington. Just make sure they all attack on the same turn.
 
smackster said:
You'll need it with this team, do I hear you say RCP


Hehe- luckily we dont have to worry about RCP in this game. Also, that is one of the aspects I find a bit anal about this game, takes out a bit of the fun with all these calculations. I like to place my cities where I think there is a nice spot.

Anyway, in competition games like this one, I would naturally cave in and obey the RCP laws.

Ah. Yes, regarding the turns:

@d-man: yeah, I take responability for that worker roading the jungle. I was kind of lost on what to do since there wasnt much to do around Madras and made a bad desicion. I saw the other worker mining outside city limits aswell, but did nada. :(

But what I really should've been paying attention to was the iron re-hooking. I should've scouted with a horse turn 3 or 4 I guess, but then I used all horses for the build up towards NY. In hindsight, I guess I am kind of surprised at the industriousness of Abe's work hands, but still, it was an oversight on my account.

Besides that I dont think I could've done anything a lot different. Just bad luck with the roll.


@Smackster: Sorry about the save being posted only here. I was real tired when I finished playing last night. Thanks for doing it for me.
(You a football fan? How very cool. I am a huge fan myself. You have a team you follow, in England or in the US?)


JJ
 
Quick comment, will have more for you when I am back home tonight.

Well done jj! Two cities!!!
Atlanta before Washington. It does not cost that much but we will be able to head on west after Washington wo having to divert units south to take Atlanta. And no risk of any American "guerillas" appearing from it to disrupt our rear...
 
tomasjj said:
Hehe- luckily we dont have to worry about RCP in this game. Also, that is one of the aspects I find a bit anal about this game, takes out a bit of the fun with all these calculations. I like to place my cities where I think there is a nice spot.

Anyway, in competition games like this one, I would naturally cave in and obey the RCP laws.
AFAIK, beginning next SG M-B have announced his intention to open it for Conquest. Do all on the team play Conquest? I prefer playing it, since it has addressed the RCP issue. Among other things, like rushing GWs
 
Wotan said:
AFAIK, beginning next SG M-B have announced his intention to open it for Conquest. Do all on the team play Conquest? I prefer playing it, since it has addressed the RCP issue. Among other things, like rushing GWs


I would prefer Conquests.

JJ
 
The next game will support conquests, and will use the GOTM bix (so no SGLs for instance). The only proviso is that there are enough people interested to make it viable. Also the conquest teams will play for a different award. We will take the opportunity to study the differences in scores and such between the two versions however. :)
 
Then I hope we will play conquest game (SCOTM i presume??) as the same team again. :)

and back to game... That was what i thought - taking Atlanta before anything else...
Washington has pop 9 so it has extra defence... I'd say we would need at least 7 to 8 horses to take it safely. I would hate to leave there wounded spears just to attack them again next turn after they heal.
 
dmanakho said:
taking Atlanta before anything else...
Washington has pop 9 so it has extra defence... I'd say we would need at least 7 to 8 horses to take it safely. I would hate to leave there wounded spears just to attack them again next turn after they heal.


Agree on that, but again, what is the deal with Boston? Arent we gonna do something on that flank? Abe wont gives us such a large city for peace.

JJ
 
tomasjj said:
Agree on that, but again, what is the deal with Boston? Arent we gonna do something on that flank? Abe wont gives us such a large city for peace.

JJ
I haven't seen the save yet but the plan was to move on from Seattle and take Boston before converging on Washington.

Also when rushing units please look for "short-rush" opportunities. A city with about 5-6 spt rush Spearman after first turn of production then switch to Horseman for a total of 3 turns production time and 15 shields @ 4 gold =60 gold. If the city produce 10 shields you start with producing 10 shields then rush a spearman, switch to Horseman and it finishes in two turns at the extra cost of only 40 gold.
 
It will be hard to take Boston anytime soon.
We have 3 horses near Seatle but 2 american swords are moving in that direction... I am not sure what our losses are going to be when picking up those swords.
We will have to wait for re-inforcements before we can take Boston...
and actually Boston is an easier target comparing to Wash.
I haven't looked what American cities are building GWs, those would be the easier to capture since they can't reinforce defense.
 
And also, what, if any american city, already has a wonder....
 
I think the general criteria for peace with America is
1) Spanish alliance expired
2) At least 2-3 cities in peace deal
3) Their capital is off shore

Until this time, keep hitting them.

I too would like to play an SCOTM game. I like conquests, apart from the armies being too strong, if I could either I would stop them healing so quickly, or set the movement to standard. Either way you still need the grid :)
 
tomasjj said:
And also, what, if any american city, already has a wonder....

We will use that wonder for our benefits after we capture that city :)

smackster said:
I think the general criteria for peace with America is
1) Spanish alliance expired
2) At least 2-3 cities in peace deal
3) Their capital is off shore

I also see no reason to stop war with America (the only exceptions are given above), we will be getting stronger with each turn and America will be weakening... and no alliance extention with Spain....
 
And no alliance extension with Arabia/Iroqois. Get peace with France for a city.

I also expect the AI to get Mono/Fued at some point soon. So once that is in play, then use it with any that dont' have it to start another alliance. Just be careful who is picked.
In fact we may want to turn the French war round, and ally with France against Arabia, as we should turn our eyes to them as soon as America is toasted.
 
I understand we switch to Chivalry as soon as we get Feud. right?
 
tomasjj said:
And also, what, if any american city, already has a wonder....
I'm not sure if they built any, although there are lot being built in various places.

My football team is QPR, although its hard to follow them long distance. I watch more games of Baseball these days, although still play football a couple of times a week.
 
dmanakho said:
I understand we switch to Chivalry as soon as we get Feud. right?
Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. I remember SGOTM2, when my team started on Theology, before Chivalry, and then the next player had science set at 10%. I'd written a list of tasks, which included get Chivalry ASAP. GRRRRrrr.

edit: this was the game where I put in the writeup, that each time I got the save, I just wanted to :cry:
 
Hey, you got yourself a much better team this time around ;)
All we need to do is to sit tight and wait for Wotan to come home, load the save and give some instructions so i can play tonight...
Well... I am expecting "Bourne Supremacy" and "Kill BIll Vol. 2" to arrive from Netflix tonight, so i will have to manage between playing and watching new movies on my brand new HDTV :)

EDIT: With all the spam i produce, i've generated my 1000th message in less than a year of being on this forum! Yeah!!! :D . Haven't noticed until now
 
dmanakho said:
Hey, you got yourself a much better team this time around ;)
All we need to do is to sit tight and wait for Wotan to come home, load the save and give some instructions so i can play tonight...
Well... I am expecting "Bourne Supremacy" and "Kill BIll Vol. 2" to arrive from Netflix tonight, so i will have to manage between playing and watching new movies on my brand new HDTV :)
He's travelling, so you can't be sure he'll look. I suggest you play it either way as there are not really any hard decisions, we've kind of all agreed to take Atlanta (don't forget to visit the underground and buckhead), and Boston (duck tour), and merge on Washington.

If we take one or not the other, then you may have a decision as to how to help the other. For instance if you take Atlanta, and Boston is tougher (with those swords), then I would question moving the Atlanta horses all the way up to Boston to help. Rather help should be sent from Calcutta. The Atlanta horses should arrive at Washington, in time for you to bring the Boston horses to bear. Easy really.
 
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