Tubby Rower
Chronic Slacker
Can I lurk this game?? I don't want to impose opinions and m-b never assigned me to a team as designated spectator as he's busy enough.
SGOTM7 - Team Bede
- Thread starter mad-bax
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Tubby Rower
Chronic Slacker
lurker's comment: I was waiting on a response before I took further action. I haven't opened the other threads yet and won't now. Thanks for having me. I just finished reading through everything.
Opened starting save and opponents are as follows:
Opened starting save and opponents are as follows:
Code:
[u]civ - Starting tech - [/u]
India - Alpha, CB
Zulu - WC, Pots
Arabia - Pots, CB
[b]Persia [/b]- BW, Masonry
[b]Vikings [/b]- WC, Alpha
America - Pots, Masonry
MeteorPunch
#WINNING
Tubby Rower said:
Those seem to be some weaker civs there. Vikings though are the ones who will be sailing around to possibly meet us and they have alphabet
. There are 3 EXP civs which won't do them much good on an archiapalego. Religious isn't really a benefit on diety either.
eldar
ChiefTank
I'm kinda hoping we're sharing with Abu. Two techs we don't have, and both the cheapest out there. We should be able to buy even at Deity rates. And no WC or BW of course so only warriors and a scout - which if he's unlucky he'll lose almost immediately.
Perversely, I wouldn't mind sharing with the Vikes. They may start with Archers, but we'll be rid of them before they get seriously nasty.
Perversely, I wouldn't mind sharing with the Vikes. They may start with Archers, but we'll be rid of them before they get seriously nasty.
Let the games begin.
eldar, take it away.
And if we have to have neighbors I would like Abu and the Vikes as well.
Zulu will be annoying, Persia would be a royal pain. And don't forget that culture monsters like India can cause great anguish in a Deity game.
eldar, take it away.
And if we have to have neighbors I would like Abu and the Vikes as well.
Zulu will be annoying, Persia would be a royal pain. And don't forget that culture monsters like India can cause great anguish in a Deity game.
eldar
ChiefTank
All plans change upon contact with the enemy... in this case it was 3750BC and whilst they were on the other side of water, I got a little more cautious than was probably necessary.
>>Le Save<<
0 4000 Settle in place, there's a 3rd Sheep by the river but it's the wrong side for now, and not available 'til after expansion. Worker N to the first Sheep, research 100% towards Alphabet. Start building a Spear.
1 3950 Worker irrigates.
4 3800 Worker roads.
5 3750 A Zulu warrior has popped his head out from across the water. Masonry+BW+1g gets us Pottery+WC, and I declare on him. He is also up CB.
6 3700 Worker NW.
IT: Spear->Spear.
7 3650 Spear fortifies. I can't tell if the Zulu are connected by land to us yet, and it'll be embarassing if they are Worker irrigates.
IT: city growth.
9 3550 IT: Culture growth.
10 3500 Worker roads.
IT: Spear->Settler.
11 3450 Spearo heads off south.
12 3400 Spearo south again, revealing some Incense. Worker SE,S.
13 3350 Worker mines. Spearo SW onto Olives.
IT: growth to 3.
14 3300 Lux to 10%. Spearo one more S. Heads back next turn to pick up the Settler.
15 3250 Spearo back N.
IT: Settler->Rax.
16 3200 Spear+Settler S. Spearo N.
17 3150 Worker roads. Settler pair SE. Spearo N.
18 3100 Spearo NE back into Istanbul. Settler pair S, couple of barb warriors camped on a mountain
19 3050 Worker S. Spearo fortifies. Edrine founded, starts Walls.
20 3000 Worker irrigates. Barbs fortify on the incense. Not much exploring but then the very quick contact got me jumpy. Next player should be able to get something built to go explore? Istanbul can pull another spear instead of the rax maybe.
Edrine is behind a river, no hills except the Olives 1-turn roaded walk away. We do have a lot of good food+shield bonus tiles though.
>>Le Save<<
0 4000 Settle in place, there's a 3rd Sheep by the river but it's the wrong side for now, and not available 'til after expansion. Worker N to the first Sheep, research 100% towards Alphabet. Start building a Spear.
1 3950 Worker irrigates.
4 3800 Worker roads.
5 3750 A Zulu warrior has popped his head out from across the water. Masonry+BW+1g gets us Pottery+WC, and I declare on him. He is also up CB.
6 3700 Worker NW.
IT: Spear->Spear.
7 3650 Spear fortifies. I can't tell if the Zulu are connected by land to us yet, and it'll be embarassing if they are Worker irrigates.
IT: city growth.
9 3550 IT: Culture growth.
10 3500 Worker roads.
IT: Spear->Settler.
11 3450 Spearo heads off south.
12 3400 Spearo south again, revealing some Incense. Worker SE,S.
13 3350 Worker mines. Spearo SW onto Olives.
IT: growth to 3.
14 3300 Lux to 10%. Spearo one more S. Heads back next turn to pick up the Settler.
15 3250 Spearo back N.
IT: Settler->Rax.
16 3200 Spear+Settler S. Spearo N.
17 3150 Worker roads. Settler pair SE. Spearo N.
18 3100 Spearo NE back into Istanbul. Settler pair S, couple of barb warriors camped on a mountain
19 3050 Worker S. Spearo fortifies. Edrine founded, starts Walls.
20 3000 Worker irrigates. Barbs fortify on the incense. Not much exploring but then the very quick contact got me jumpy. Next player should be able to get something built to go explore? Istanbul can pull another spear instead of the rax maybe.
Edrine is behind a river, no hills except the Olives 1-turn roaded walk away. We do have a lot of good food+shield bonus tiles though.
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MeteorPunch
#WINNING
Looks good Eldar.
That would be scary if Zulu are on our land
. My guess is Mr. Bax put the Zulu close on a nearby island so they'd pop up in everybody's game.
I would change walls in Endrine to another spearman. A wall would be nice, but you never know when we need another unit.
I'd use tight spacing and place the next city on the hill NW of incense, which we could hook up faster.. We could move units fast because it's on the opposite side of the river. It's got floodplains and bonus resources, and it's on a hill
That would be scary if Zulu are on our land
. My guess is Mr. Bax put the Zulu close on a nearby island so they'd pop up in everybody's game.I would change walls in Endrine to another spearman. A wall would be nice, but you never know when we need another unit.
I'd use tight spacing and place the next city on the hill NW of incense, which we could hook up faster.. We could move units fast because it's on the opposite side of the river. It's got floodplains and bonus resources, and it's on a hill
Admiral Kutzov
Idiot Emeritus
My openings are usually lame so I'm staying relatively quiet.
Somebody go over the download rules for me. Do I have to download from mad bax's site if I just want to look at the save? Is it okay to load eldar's? When I pick up the game, do I go from this thread or from mad bax's?
Is that one hell of a big river SW of Erdine or is that salt water?
Finally, it appears mad bax may be being evil - all islands "close" so that the Big Bulb won't matter?
Finally (for real this time), although tight is good in AW, IMHO, the next city should go E of the GH (if that is indeed a river)
Somebody go over the download rules for me. Do I have to download from mad bax's site if I just want to look at the save? Is it okay to load eldar's? When I pick up the game, do I go from this thread or from mad bax's?
Is that one hell of a big river SW of Erdine or is that salt water?
Finally, it appears mad bax may be being evil - all islands "close" so that the Big Bulb won't matter?
Finally (for real this time), although tight is good in AW, IMHO, the next city should go E of the GH (if that is indeed a river)
eldar
ChiefTank
E of the GH is good, dems flood plains down there.
The save linked to is the official one I uploaded (when you submit the save, you get given a link to copy back to the thread).
The save linked to is the official one I uploaded (when you submit the save, you get given a link to copy back to the thread).
killercane
Deity
Very nice job. I vote 3 SE of capital for city 3 and AK's floodplains location for city 4. Its great we got WC and pottery this quickly.
Erdrine looks like a good Library city.
Erdrine looks like a good Library city.
Admiral Kutzov
Idiot Emeritus
One thing I learned from Handy is that when playing AW, a lucky candle is needed. Since Team Grumpy is probably using handy's, I thought we should have our own. In true idiot fashion, igor brought home the biggest lucky candle he could find. I hope we live through the lighting of our "lucky" candle.
blame this on eldar's signature
OT - What did Lee say before the surrender at Appomatox? I've got an elementary school concert to attend for the next 2 hours.
blame this on eldar's signature
OT - What did Lee say before the surrender at Appomatox? I've got an elementary school concert to attend for the next 2 hours.
I think you are tight, killer, but I won't be able to comment in any detail for another three hours or so.
Istanbul should gets its rax soonest and Erdrine its walls. It may be that Istanbul doesn't need walls, given its placement. But in any case Istanbul is our settler farm and troop training facility for the foreseeable future.
Istanbul should gets its rax soonest and Erdrine its walls. It may be that Istanbul doesn't need walls, given its placement. But in any case Istanbul is our settler farm and troop training facility for the foreseeable future.
MOTH
Emperor
Edit: wrong thread
MeteorPunch
#WINNING
E of the GH is good. I have zero experience in AW so I was thinking the hill defence would be good.
How do you suggest we handle the GH? Pop it with a spear or found the city beside it with a spear escort?
How do you suggest we handle the GH? Pop it with a spear or found the city beside it with a spear escort?
MeteorPunch
#WINNING
Actually, it can still pop barbarians. It's happened to me and confirmed at a post in the strategy section a while ago.
Tubby Rower
Chronic Slacker
E of GH will have the following tiles
- 2f, 2s, 1g - mountains with goat on river
- 4f, 1g - FP wheat before irrigation
- 2f, 1s, 1g - olives on hill
eldar
ChiefTank
Istanbul is already a Military+Settler-factory potential.
With a 'rax it can do an 8-turn cycle finishing with a settler timed to growth (no granary, a waste of 60 shields in this variant, really).
With a 'rax it can do an 8-turn cycle finishing with a settler timed to growth (no granary, a waste of 60 shields in this variant, really).
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