human-slaughter
brand new year
Im going to be taking a break from this NES for a while. It is really starting to get irritating. So im on NPC and Canada is up for grabs.
laterz
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SheepNES: Modern Battlefields: MAIN THREAD
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jeps
Arcadefire
OOC: Does that mean Jack Layton is still PM?
*Hopes, yet for the sake of realism hopes not at the same time*
EDIT: Also - sheep, if you would like a canada, I will gladly switch from UGT to them. I have a plan for UGT, but am equally willing to be Canada if it is necessary to have one. if not, or if someone comes soon, UGT for African Domination!
*Hopes, yet for the sake of realism hopes not at the same time*
EDIT: Also - sheep, if you would like a canada, I will gladly switch from UGT to them. I have a plan for UGT, but am equally willing to be Canada if it is necessary to have one. if not, or if someone comes soon, UGT for African Domination!
germanicus12
First Citizen of Rome
I would like to take Canada, the Ukraine is boring me to death 
but if not.... no biggie.
but if not.... no biggie.
Sheep
Orange Shrooms!
It doesnt worry me, just stay in whatever nation is going to make you more happy.
Symphony D.
Deity
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[FONT="courier new”]MAJOR EXCERPTS FROM THE STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS
CAPITOL BUILDING, WASHINGTON D.C., UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
DELIVERED 21:01 EST, JANUARY 25, 2008[/font]
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On President George W. Bush
[FONT="courier new”]MAJOR EXCERPTS FROM THE STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS
CAPITOL BUILDING, WASHINGTON D.C., UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
DELIVERED 21:01 EST, JANUARY 25, 2008[/font]
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On President George W. Bush
America has seen great tragedy with the loss of President Bush to the bullet of a cowardly assassin. Whatever one's political affiliation or feelings on the positions and agenda of the man, it is indisputable that President Bush was a leader who believed that his cause was just, and always had in the forefront of his mind what he believed to be the good of the American people. In this he had the essential quality of a great leader, and his loss is not simply a loss to his family, or this Administration, or even to the United States, but a loss to the world as a whole. It is impossible for us to seek justice against his killer, as he perished in his attempt, but it is still well within our means to seek justice and to avenge his death by not forgetting his essential message: that democracy and its associated freedoms must be fought for. They must be paid for, and their price is measured in the blood of those who would stand up against their oppressors and fight for them.
We will seek justice for President Bush by continuing in our campaign against the culture of hatred and intolerance perpetuated by Muslim extremists which promotes such violent actions against outsiders. We will seek justice by finding those who seek to rule their fellow man by the imposition of ignorance and fear, of spite and loathing. We will seek justice by our unceasing vigilance in the defense of the interests of this country and the free world as a whole. We will seek justice by carrying forward his vision of a world in which all the children of humanity might one day be free of want for food or basic necessities or of fear from terrorists or oppressive governments. And we will seek justice by not forgetting.
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On the War on Terror
On the War on Terror
The series of terrorist attacks across the world in the past year has provided renewed urgency to the cause of ending the global threat posed by such violent extremists. As these events have proved, terrorists do not care if you are American, European, African, Asian, or any other race. They do not care if you are Christian, Hindu, Buddhist, Atheist, or even Muslim. To the terrorist, whatever his origin, the free man is the enemy. He is a human unbound by fear, and as such is not easily controlled by those who would seek to dominate his every waking moment. That is precisely the aim of the terrorist group: rule by fear.
To this end they provide justifications and excuses for their actions. The most commonly utilized scapegoat by these factions is the faith of Islam. They say that their crimes are the will of God, and that they are divinely sanctioned. They state their myriad reasons for pursuing such violence; Al Qaeda demands the withdrawal of American forces from Saudi Arabia, Hamas and Hezbollah demand the destruction of the state of Israel, and other assorted factions each put forward their own agendas in turn. I wish to make it clear tonight that such claims are nothing but bold-faced lies.
Acts of terror, of brutality and barbarism against one's fellow man, are not sanctioned by true practitioners of Islam, or of any other credible faith. The use of religion by these fanatics is nothing but a ploy to camouflage their efforts and to draw public support that they would not otherwise receive. Their demands were they to be met, would do nothing but embolden them to more audacious extortion and blackmail. The basic aim of the terrorist is the forced imposition of their beliefs upon those they seek to rule. This is why they have attacked and will continue to try and attack us and our allies in Europe: they see our free and prosperous citizens living their lives as they wish, without being controlled or manipulated, and they recognize the threat this poses to their agenda of domination. They recognize that we pose the greatest threats to their dreams of rule because we symbolize the very things which are anathema to them: freedom, liberty, and choice.
Because of this, they will never stop in their efforts to strike at us. Correspondingly, we must never cease in our vigilance and opposition to their objective of conquest. They are a threat to the civilized world as dangerous as fascism and communism ever were, and we must be resolved to be as unflinching in our objective of their pacification as we ever were to those threats. I therefore pledge that this nation shall not waver in its efforts to eradicate terrorism wherever it might hide.
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On Iraq
On Iraq
The last act of President Bush, the announcement of the withdrawal of all American forces within a time table of six months, has been met with some skepticism by both members of this government and of the public. It is impossible to state that the Iraq War is a popular war, although I would submit that there is no such thing. War should always be considered as the last possible option to the resolution of any hostile situation. War is death and suffering, and it is my firm belief we are all of sufficient responsibility and maturity to recognize it is to be employed in only the most dire of circumstances.
Our nation has seen five years of war in Iraq. It has lost over 4,000 servicemen and women in the fight to secure Iraq and provide it with a stable and prosperous future. Iraq has vacillated in its commitments, and the American people have begun to lose faith in the capability of the Iraqi government to sustain itself or to survive in such hostile conditions. This is what prompted President Bush to announce the withdrawal on October 31 of last year.
The nation of Iraq has recently stated that it does not wish to see a withdrawal of American forces and no longer places any commitments upon American forces for a withdrawal.
It is ill-fitting for a government, particularly one of the importance as of this great nation, to go back on its word, but it is sometimes necessary. Our nation is tired of Iraq. But so too have we been tired of other wars. We have seen the price of what happens when a government is allowed to collapse into chaos and anarchy before in Afghanistan, and in Somalia. Historically we have seen that the price for failure, the price for giving up, is that one simply delays dealing with one's problem, and allows it to grow worse. The failure of any other body within the international community to develop a working alternative to our presence leaves little doubt as to the fate of Iraq should we leave. If we leave Iraq this year, we will have to go back a third time. Perhaps not in a year, or two years, or even five, but we will have to return. I do not believe if fitting that a need to fix the mistakes of their forbearers be left as a legacy to the children of this nation.
When I visited Pearl Harbor this past December, I had the opportunity to speak with James T. Summers, a veteran Marine who had served with the 5th Marine Division at the Battle of Iwo Jima in World War II. He told me his story of his time on 'Iwo' from when they landed on February 19, 1945, to the famous flag-raising on February 23, to the final surrender of Japanese forces on March 26. In those 35 days, over 6,140 American soldiers were killed in some of the fiercest fighting of the war. When he had finished his story, I had to ask him, "Mr. Summers, what made you keep fighting?"
And he told me "Mr. President, the support of the folks back home. And it makes me damn proud to see that same support behind our boys today."
The American people have faced greater hardships, and greater challenges than Iraq by presenting a united front. We have always been stronger when standing together, than when standing apart. If we are to ensure that our children and our children's children do not have to live in fear of a terrorist stronghold in Iraq, unfettered by the attention of the international community, then we must stand together on this issue and ensure it is dealt with properly now.
We have also achieved notable successes in Iraq. Saddam Hussein, thirty-year dictator of Iraq and murder of over two million people, was removed from power and brought to justice by the very people whom he had for so long oppressed. The first democratic election in over three decades was held in Iraq, with voter turnout rates higher than in many industrialized nations, and Iraq currently boasts the most liberal and progressive constitution in the entire Middle East. We have achieved much; it would send the wrong message, both to our allies and our enemies, to simply throw these victories away. I believe it is only fair that we give Iraq one final chance to prove itself.
To this effect, I have rescinded the executive order of President Bush regarding a withdrawal by May of this year and have placed a cap upon American forces of 120,000 soldiers. Progress has been made in securing the support of our European allies in contributing forces in order to secure the borders of Iraq and prevent the inflow of insurgent forces, and new facilities are being created to assist in the further training of Iraqi security forces. It is also my sincere hope that the Arab League will honor its proposals to send forces to assist in the peacekeeping operations within Iraq to demonstrate that the peoples of the world are committed to the preservation of such hard-won freedom and security. But let it be known that the United States will not submit to defeat in this most important of endeavors.
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On Afghanistan
On Afghanistan
The revival of Taliban and Al Qaeda fighters in Afghanistan presents a major security concern to this country and to the newly founded democratic government of Afghanistan. The resurgence of these fighters is demonstrative of the refusal of these former oppressors of the people to relinquish power peacefully, and their unending drive to force their will upon others without concern or care for the consequences. They are not rational, reasonable people with whom the matter can be debated, who can be persuaded to lay down their arms, or who can be reasoned with. They are, and will remain, craven, power-hungry barbarians whose only objective is theocratic totalitarian rule over their peers. Their continued presence is unacceptable to this government, the Afghan government, and its NATO allies who have contributed forces.
The continued stability of the Afghan government is of prime concern not only to the foreign policy of this nation, but also of the security of its people. We will never again allow Afghanistan to become a safe haven for terrorists.
To achieve such an objective it is my intention, with the support of the Congress and House of Representatives, to increase the number of American soldiers on the ground in Afghanistan to 30,000 soldiers. Simultaneously reconstruction funding has been allocated for this government to assist its NATO allies in the rebuilding of the Afghan infrastructure to ensure that the people of that country have the capability to sustain themselves and to cherish and protect their newfound freedom. The United States has agreed to pay a full third of these estimated reconstruction costs.
Efforts are also ongoing to solicit greater troop contributions from NATO allies in order to ensure that there are sufficient soldiers to continue the eradication of Taliban and terrorist elements, secure the Afghan borders, and continue the rehabilitation and disarmament of the Afghan nation.
Afghanistan is an example to the rest of the world of what can be achieved through cooperation and perseverance, and of what the free world has to offer the downtrodden and oppressed peoples of the world. We can not, and will not allow it to fail.
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On the Economy and Energy
On the Economy and Energy
The American economy has as of late performed at record levels in spite of all negative events in the world today. All indicators of economic performance, from stock prices, to the performance of the dollar, to growth indexes indicate positive, and more importantly sustainable growth on the part of the economy. The healthy pulse of the nation’s economy is an indicator of the vitality of the nation and of its continued and ever-increasing prosperity of its respective markets.
The only dent in economic growth over the past several years has been a severe increase in the price of crude oil. Although not yet unsustainable the prospects for continued increases in the price of oil has led this government to pass several alternative energy proposals aimed at reducing America’s dependence upon foreign imports progressively over time. These range from the short-term, including proposals to increase the production of alternative fuels such as ethanol and bio-diesel; to the mid-term including continued research into solar and wind power, a hydrogen fuel-cell research initiative with the People’s Republic of China, and development of Rocky Mountain oil shale; to the long-term, including studies for more advanced power production including geothermal power stations, tidal harnesses, oceanic thermocline stations, orbital microwave transmitters, continued research into safer methods of nuclear fission, and continued studies regarding fusion power.
Continued research and development of Americas power production capabilities is a pledge the government must make to the people to ensure that affordable transportation, heating, and power remain available to the citizens of this country, and it is a pledge we will keep.
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On Education
On Education
The continued preeminence of this great nation in the realm of scientific endeavors is chiefly a function of its capability to provide and maintain an educated and capable cadre of scientists and researchers in its employ. For the past several years, there has been discussion that the United States is gradually losing its scientific edge, and that we are falling behind the rest of the world in the scientific field. Many point to the recent achievements of China and Europe in their recent space programs or of the advances in the biotechnology field by researchers in Asia and Europe as examples of this decline in capability.
I would like to remind the people of this nation of a space probe named Sputnik. When Sputnik was launched on October 4th, 1957, it created waves of panic in this country regarding the state of American science compared to that of the Soviet Union. There was talk of us falling behind. I remember because I was 16 years old at the time and my parents constantly grilled me as to what I was learning of value in Chemistry class after the story broke.
The truth of the matter is, that for all the talk of a “technology gap” at the time, within four years this great country was able to go from rockets which exploded on the pad, to putting a man into orbit, and within twelve years was able to put men on the Moon. Today, as then, there is much that only the United States out of all the countries in the world is able to achieve. It is not a matter of if our children are smart enough; I am sometimes of the opinion they are smarter than the rest of us. It is a matter of if we have the determination and will to not simply dream of great things, but to achieve great things.
This is not to say that the public education system is perfect, merely that our youth are by no means at fault. In order to begin to instill again a sense of aspiration and fascination within the children and young adults of this country for the sciences, this government was worked in a bi-partisan fashion to try and pass new educational legislation designed to expand federal educational funding to promote science and math-based activities, clubs, and extra-curricular activities.
The driving factor in intellectual growth in any field is a fascination and appreciation for its subject material, and developing that sort of affinity requires an exposure to activities which promote it. It is only right that we give our children all possible opportunities to receive such exposure.
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On Space
On Space
President Bush’s space declaration, regarding the intent of the United States to retain and develop defensive and exploratory capabilities in space remains not only of premiere importance to this nation, but to humanity as a whole. Some would question why billions of dollars are spent on space when such funds could be spent on any number of worthwhile projects on Earth. The reason is simple: the concerns of humanity no longer reside solely upon Earth. As a certain Mr. Konstantin Tsiolkovsky once said: “The Earth is the cradle of humanity, but mankind cannot stay in the cradle forever.”
It is therefore the intention of this government to pursue all necessary means to secure and develop access to space, not simply for our own ends but for those of mankind as a whole. This effort will take on a number of forms.
We intend for a gradual increase of NASA’s budget in order to confront the various space-related problems facing Earth today, from climate observation and prediction, to the search for near earth orbit asteroids and comets which may pose a danger of impact and consequently threaten all life on this planet, to continued exploration and understanding of the Solar System and universe to advance our understanding of our reality.
We have signed a Treaty of Space Friendship with the Russian Federation as part of a plan to increase cooperation between ourselves on various matters of space travel, including the International Space Station and possible joint ventures father abroad. We are also engaged in negotiation with the European Space Agency on a joint-program to develop the materials technology required to produce a so-called space elevator, which will secure mankind’s access to space in an affordable and safe fashion and make possible the continued exploration of points beyond the Earth-Moon system.
We also intend to support a return to the Moon no later than 2018, in order to establish permanent scientific stations upon its surface in a fashion similar to those currently operated in Antarctica. These will serve not only a variety of useful scientific purposes but will also be useful as the launching point for a later mission to Mars.
Just as President John F. Kennedy said over 45 years ago, we endeavor to do these things not because they are easy, but because they are hard. And much as America determined to fulfill the goal of President Kennedy after his death, I hope America will determine to fulfill those of President Bush.
Captain2
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OOC:
after being offered the spot of Israel i have decided to take it
good state of the union, well written
after being offered the spot of Israel i have decided to take it
good state of the union, well written
knigh+
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ooc: OMG, I was already having a hard time remembereing who is who with so many people, now people are switching countries 
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re-post for Sheep
silver 2039
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From Pakistan
Unfourtnatley this cannot be done. In 2006 the Pakistan Army launched offensive in our border province of Warzistan to drive out rebel and terroirist forces...unfourtnatley things did not gas as we planned, and we were unable to root out said forces. We withdrew and signed a treaty in which the rebels agreeded to cease attacks, and not allow terrorist activities to occur in their territories. We do not believe the rebels have violated the treaty as they are based in the north while the attacks in Afghanistan are occuring in the south. Thus we do see any reason to violate the treaty we signed and attack our border provinces unprovokedly when they are not causing any trouble for us. There is an old proverb from South India along the lines of unessecarily putting fire ants in one's pants which is what we would be doing if we attacked those proivnces.
jeps
Arcadefire
Shall be staying as UGT, got a great plan for them.
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OOC: I am confused by this. Are the rebels in Afghanistan or Pakistan? Seems like Afghanistan; if so, why is it relevant? UK asked Pakistan to patrol their side of the border (no concern for Afghan rebels).
germanicus12
First Citizen of Rome
Then am I free to take Canada?
Insane_Panda
Deity
I resign from this NES. May someone able take France.
I have my reasons, chief among them being time and interest.
I have my reasons, chief among them being time and interest.
Sheep
Orange Shrooms!
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silver 2039
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COC: The Taliban are in Afghanistan, however here have been instances when they cross the rugged and porous border. Of course Pakistan tries to prevent this, and in 2006 they attacked rebel forces in Warzistan, the norther province and lost. The Pakistan Army was forced to withdraw and sign a treaty with the rebels. Thus if I were to attempt to patrol my borders I would come into conflict with the Baluchi and Warzi rebels, and that would be unfourtnate.
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In that case, would Pakistan mind if (hypothetically) the coalition troops in Afghanistan spill over to Pakistan to deal with rebels in Waziristan?
silver 2039
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Sure.
And the minute you do so the streets of Pakistan will run red with blood as the extremist factions scream jihad, and my government will be overthrown there will be infighting between the Army, ISI, extremists, and republicans, and Pakistan will decend into an almighty civil war, in which ou nuclear weapons will be used, and spread among various factions, could likely end up in extrmist hands, and the Middle East and the Indian subcontinet would turn into a a glourious radioactive mess.
So if you're ok with that go ahead.
The only thing keeping Pakistan intact is the fact that Musharaff is effectively balancing the Extremists, Army, ISI, and Republicans and but honestly his hold on Pakistan is tenous at best. I advise you don't stir the hornets nest the consequences would be most dire and fatal...
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Turkey's Anatolian Development Project
Turkey's planned expressways
Turkey's planned high-speed railways
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Turkey's planned expressways
Turkey's planned high-speed railways
How does one insert thumbnails instead of entire images in this thing?
Grandmaster
Deity
Sorry, I'm out. I think I'm actually done with NESing, at least for a while. I just can't muster the interest to even read the forums any more.
carmen510
Deity
Officially lurker as of now. 
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