We bow to the wisdom of the glorious Mughals and appreciate their public council in this matter to lead the almighty Ming back onto the path of prosperity for all.
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Stormbringer
The Brick and The Rose
To Sweden
Russian interests in the Baltic are entirely mercantile and thus they require access to the Baltic Sea. In the proposal before you, almost all of ingermanland is ceded to Sweden with the exception of a single access point for Russia. We propose to agree to strict limits on Russian naval power in the Baltic and to open the Russia city to unrestricted trade by Sweden and Denmark.
Unfortunately we do not see what Sweden would gain by owning the rest of ingermanland, aside from the ability to cut Russia off from the Baltic entirely should Sweden wish so. We ware afraid that we cannot allow that to happen.
We hope to receive word from you and from the Danish rulers very soon.
Russian interests in the Baltic are entirely mercantile and thus they require access to the Baltic Sea. In the proposal before you, almost all of ingermanland is ceded to Sweden with the exception of a single access point for Russia. We propose to agree to strict limits on Russian naval power in the Baltic and to open the Russia city to unrestricted trade by Sweden and Denmark.
Unfortunately we do not see what Sweden would gain by owning the rest of ingermanland, aside from the ability to cut Russia off from the Baltic entirely should Sweden wish so. We ware afraid that we cannot allow that to happen.
We hope to receive word from you and from the Danish rulers very soon.
Arian
No more ghostbusting!!
To: The Mughal Empire and the Japanese Empire
From: The Empire of the Great Ming
It pleases us that this matter has been solved peacefully and that no harm has been done to our relations. The Empire of the Great Ming shall repopulate Hawaii as soon as possible and reinstate the colony to its former glory as part of the Empire of the Great Ming.
We also feel we have to apologize to the Shogun for our harsh words as we didn't interprete his intentions correctly.
We also think that the Asian peoples shouldn't fight amongst each other as so many perils lie ahead of us.
Sheep
Orange Shrooms!
ooc: Dont send me NPC diplo via PM. Unless it specifically talks about an attack on another player nation. I refuse to answer it otherwise just to the sheer workload that it would create otherwise.
To the Emperor of China
Will not the great Ming heed the wise words of the Mughals? Or does the almighty Ming rashly take his land and the peace of Asia to war for trivial bits of land less than an iota of what he gains aganst the Moghals?
We fear the wrath of our gods if we deny them the gift of suffering they have bestowed upon us with one hand and the burden of Hawaii they provide with the other. Do you not see the work of Heaven in what has transpired?
Edit: OOC Your translators have perhaps led you astay. There is more to discuss Your post was not seen by the Japanese prior to the above.
dldnjstjr
The Shrubber
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To: Russia
From: Sweden
What we wanted was the indicated lands on the map provided with this message. From the looks of it it does not impede with current access to Russian ports in Baltics. We simply wanted a port outside of Baltic with some buffer lands for security.
From: Sweden
What we wanted was the indicated lands on the map provided with this message. From the looks of it it does not impede with current access to Russian ports in Baltics. We simply wanted a port outside of Baltic with some buffer lands for security.
Sheep
Orange Shrooms!
ooc: I suggest a lot of people need to re-aquaint themselves with the rules. I will look into the claims, however I know for a fact that several people who have claimed stats are wrong are in fact wrong themselves as I remember their orders quite well.
Silver, Mozambiq is in the stats.
Silver, Mozambiq is in the stats.
Stormbringer
The Brick and The Rose
To Sweden
We are slightly puzzled by what Russia would receive in return should it cede all of Karelia to Sweden. Currently Russia is asking for lands held by Denmark and Sweden and in return it cedes parts of Ingermanland, and withdraws militarily from the Baltic, leaving Sweden and Denmark in complete control of the sea.
However, if Russia is to cede more land than it already has, and then provide further concessions, there seems to be no counter-offer from Sweden to make this deal make sense for Russia.
We are slightly puzzled by what Russia would receive in return should it cede all of Karelia to Sweden. Currently Russia is asking for lands held by Denmark and Sweden and in return it cedes parts of Ingermanland, and withdraws militarily from the Baltic, leaving Sweden and Denmark in complete control of the sea.
However, if Russia is to cede more land than it already has, and then provide further concessions, there seems to be no counter-offer from Sweden to make this deal make sense for Russia.
Is that directed at my question?
Sheep
Orange Shrooms!
It was not directed at anyone in particular. All I ask is that people fully check what they are talking about and the rules before they come to me asking me why something is not what they thought it would be.
Stormbringer
The Brick and The Rose
To Sweden
Russia would like Sweden to consider the offer as is for now, and we will try to judge the value of the land to us and will come up with the appropriate monetary sum for the purchase.
Russia would like Sweden to consider the offer as is for now, and we will try to judge the value of the land to us and will come up with the appropriate monetary sum for the purchase.
Did you multiple your spending by your education %?
Stormbringer
The Brick and The Rose
Its multiplied by your education rate. Which is probably 50%
Sheep
Orange Shrooms!
As Stormbringer said.... Read rules please.
Sheep
Orange Shrooms!
Down, always down. And with research there is no rounding at all.
silver 2039
Deity
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The palace in Delhi seemed largely abandoned. It was dark, and nothing stirred. The soldiers keeping vigil outside stood stiffly and quietly in the night.
The atmosphere inside the palace reflected the cold exterior. The dark hallways and chambers of the sprawling palace were cold and silent. Nobles, ministers, and courtiers spoke to each other in hushed whispers none of them tarrying for long in the almost empty palace. There was a deep sense of gloom and foreboding.
The Mughal Emperor Babur was ill. It was an aliment of the stomach, the Emperor regularly coughed blood, and vomited, he could eat nothing. It was a lingering illness that ate away at him and sapped his strength. Physicians, fakirs, doctors, soothsayers, monks, and alchemists had been called from all over the world to cure him of this disease. None found a cure. The disease continued making him waste away until he was eventually bedridden and no longer able to carry out his duties and forced to rely increasingly upon his ministers and sons.
The Emperor lay in his bed as usual, his cheeks sunken in with folds of wrinkled flesh hanging down. His breath came out in wheezing gasps. He was a shadow of his former self. He had once conquered a dozen kingdoms, annihilated a hundred armies and built a vast empire that stretched from the wastes of Central Asia to the hills of the Deccan. And this is what he was reduced to though his son Humayun sadly.
“Father” he said gently “I am here.”
Babur gazed tiredly up at him and raised himself up slightly in the bed. “Ah so you have come to visit your on his deathbed. I take it your brothers are not so filial.” he observed sardonically
Humayun looked hesitant “Well surely they must be busy in other affairs of the state Father.”
Babur shook his head and chuckled but it quickly turned in a wheezing cough. Humayun quickly motioned for one of his attendants to get water. After drinking it Babur spoke “No they plot against you for the throne before I am yet cold in my grave. Son you must move against them if you wish to hold the throne. None of them are fit to rule, they are corrupt and soft. Given to frivolity and excess. They know not the ways of war nor politics. They overindulge in wine, hookah, and women and their habits outrage the pious. They cannot be allowed to rule, I know you are young but you must take action.”
Humayun nodded “Yes Father.”
“However my fondness as a father cannot allow me to consent to their death. So promise a dying man one thing.” He said clasping his son’s hands “Do not kill them for my sake. Exile them if you wish, but do not kill them.”
“Very well Father.”
“Good” Babur sighed and laid back in his bed. “I feel the darkness of death overcoming me. I have lived a good life; I have lived well and lived gloriously. I have always sought to be a warrior for Islam, a Ghazi, for it is our duty to fight for Allah. I have spread Islam from the deserts of Central Asia deep into the lands of Hindustan. I have defeated great empires, that of Ibhrhim Lodi and his one hundred thousand soldiers, the mighty kings and chieftains of Rajputana, the rich and wealthy Sultanates of Ahmadnagar, Bijapur, and Golkonda, and the fierce mountain warriors of Nepal. It is the blood of Timur and Genghis that runs in our veins and it is their greatness that allows us to accomplish such feats. But now I am tired. I have honored my religion and my ancestors. I have done my duty on earth and it is now time for you to do the rest. Do not fail me nor our ancestors Humayun.”
“I won’t Father” said Humayun tearfully embracing him.
With that the first Emperor of the Mughals died. He would forever be known as Babur the Great.
The atmosphere inside the palace reflected the cold exterior. The dark hallways and chambers of the sprawling palace were cold and silent. Nobles, ministers, and courtiers spoke to each other in hushed whispers none of them tarrying for long in the almost empty palace. There was a deep sense of gloom and foreboding.
The Mughal Emperor Babur was ill. It was an aliment of the stomach, the Emperor regularly coughed blood, and vomited, he could eat nothing. It was a lingering illness that ate away at him and sapped his strength. Physicians, fakirs, doctors, soothsayers, monks, and alchemists had been called from all over the world to cure him of this disease. None found a cure. The disease continued making him waste away until he was eventually bedridden and no longer able to carry out his duties and forced to rely increasingly upon his ministers and sons.
The Emperor lay in his bed as usual, his cheeks sunken in with folds of wrinkled flesh hanging down. His breath came out in wheezing gasps. He was a shadow of his former self. He had once conquered a dozen kingdoms, annihilated a hundred armies and built a vast empire that stretched from the wastes of Central Asia to the hills of the Deccan. And this is what he was reduced to though his son Humayun sadly.
“Father” he said gently “I am here.”
Babur gazed tiredly up at him and raised himself up slightly in the bed. “Ah so you have come to visit your on his deathbed. I take it your brothers are not so filial.” he observed sardonically
Humayun looked hesitant “Well surely they must be busy in other affairs of the state Father.”
Babur shook his head and chuckled but it quickly turned in a wheezing cough. Humayun quickly motioned for one of his attendants to get water. After drinking it Babur spoke “No they plot against you for the throne before I am yet cold in my grave. Son you must move against them if you wish to hold the throne. None of them are fit to rule, they are corrupt and soft. Given to frivolity and excess. They know not the ways of war nor politics. They overindulge in wine, hookah, and women and their habits outrage the pious. They cannot be allowed to rule, I know you are young but you must take action.”
Humayun nodded “Yes Father.”
“However my fondness as a father cannot allow me to consent to their death. So promise a dying man one thing.” He said clasping his son’s hands “Do not kill them for my sake. Exile them if you wish, but do not kill them.”
“Very well Father.”
“Good” Babur sighed and laid back in his bed. “I feel the darkness of death overcoming me. I have lived a good life; I have lived well and lived gloriously. I have always sought to be a warrior for Islam, a Ghazi, for it is our duty to fight for Allah. I have spread Islam from the deserts of Central Asia deep into the lands of Hindustan. I have defeated great empires, that of Ibhrhim Lodi and his one hundred thousand soldiers, the mighty kings and chieftains of Rajputana, the rich and wealthy Sultanates of Ahmadnagar, Bijapur, and Golkonda, and the fierce mountain warriors of Nepal. It is the blood of Timur and Genghis that runs in our veins and it is their greatness that allows us to accomplish such feats. But now I am tired. I have honored my religion and my ancestors. I have done my duty on earth and it is now time for you to do the rest. Do not fail me nor our ancestors Humayun.”
“I won’t Father” said Humayun tearfully embracing him.
With that the first Emperor of the Mughals died. He would forever be known as Babur the Great.
OOC: Great update as always. Keep up the good work.
To: Spain
From: England
We have to decline your offer of a royal marriage at this point of time. While we continue to sympathise with the Spanish who are betrayed at every turn we do not wish to enter this war.
To: France
From: England
England demands that France take control of their country. The revolts in France threaten the stability of Calais. If this situation continues to spiral out of control England may take measures to ensure that order is maintained in Calais.
To: Spain
From: England
We have to decline your offer of a royal marriage at this point of time. While we continue to sympathise with the Spanish who are betrayed at every turn we do not wish to enter this war.
To: France
From: England
England demands that France take control of their country. The revolts in France threaten the stability of Calais. If this situation continues to spiral out of control England may take measures to ensure that order is maintained in Calais.
