Should you report Cannibis dealing?

[thecrazyscot]

"then ban it" doesn't mean you said ban it, it means your logic suggests that course of action

No, it doesn't. Just because a substance is harmful doesn't necessitate that it be banned completely. Often that does more harm than good. If it's tightly regulated people who are going to utilize it are at least going to do so in a legal, safer environment where they can get the treatment they need.

It also removes the "taboo" appeal for an illegal substance, as well as (some of) the reluctance to seek help when use slips into abuse.

 

[Zelig]

That's okay, I see it more than clearly enough for both of us. Fair bet your neighbors do as well. All in all, they may well prefer talking to the cops.

They don't have to talk to cops for bylaw infringements, the city sends out workers to clear the sidewalks and then bills them for the time.

Seriously, what possible upside is there for me if I talk to my neighbors myself? The only actual power I have is to alert bylaw enforcement, which becomes much more of a potential hassle to me if I previously complained to the neighbors myself.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

They don't have to talk to cops for bylaw infringements, the city sends out workers to clear the sidewalks and then bills them for the time.

Seriously, what possible upside is there for me if I talk to my neighbors myself? The only] actual power I have is to alert bylaw enforcement, which becomes much more of a potential hassle to me if I previously complained to the neighbors myself.

Good point. It's always easier to not talk to people who live nearby. The only thing that could possibly be better is a big estate so the inconvenience of being thrust against the great unwashed could be avoided completely.

 

[Zelig]

Good point. It's always easier to not talk to people who live nearby. The only thing that could possibly be better is a big estate so the inconvenience of being thrust against the great unwashed could be avoided completely.

I completely agree.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

I completely agree.

I didn't doubt it for a minute.

For the record, my own solution to situations like this is throwing a party.

 

[Zelig]

For the record, my own solution to situations like this is throwing a party.

Tough to have a party when walking is dangerous due to uncleared sidewalks.

 

[Berzerker]

No, it doesn't. Just because a substance is harmful doesn't necessitate that it be banned completely. Often that does more harm than good. If it's tightly regulated people who are going to utilize it are at least going to do so in a legal, safer environment where they can get the treatment they need.

It also removes the "taboo" appeal for an illegal substance, as well as (some of) the reluctance to seek help when use slips into abuse.

It's the sole cause of one of the largest public health crises in history.

if you wouldn't ban a drug responsible for the largest health crisis in history, I guess you wouldn't ban any other drug - heroin, cocaine, meth, all legal?

 

[thecrazyscot]

if you wouldn't ban a drug responsible for the largest health crisis in history, I guess you wouldn't ban any other drug - heroin, cocaine, meth, all legal?

I would make say, on a case by case basis, why not, if tightly controlled? People are going to use them anyways, and many of them have legitimate medical uses. You seem to want to me to make a universal statement - I won't, it's more complicated than that.

 

[dgfred]

I would talk to the guy/gal and tell them- I heard some 'others' talking about the smell being a problem... maybe you could tone it down or do it elsewhere. Don't want you to get into any trouble .

 

[Grendeldef]

I should but I have a hard time imaging that I'd ever do so.

 

[Narz]

Potheads are mostly harmless, drunks are much more dangerous. So now, I'd never report pot use or dealing, plus I like the smell.

The only time I would do it is if somebody was dealing in my apartment building or next door, and the smell/commotion was causing problems in my own living space. I've done that for pot use as well.

Thats kind of lame. Just tell them to take it somewhere else.

 

[Narz]

They don't have to talk to cops for bylaw infringements, the city sends out workers to clear the sidewalks and then bills them for the time.

Seriously, what possible upside is there for me if I talk to my neighbors myself? The only actual power I have is to alert bylaw enforcement, which becomes much more of a potential hassle to me if I previously complained to the neighbors myself.

To improve your social skills?

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Tough to have a party when walking is dangerous due to uncleared sidewalks.

Very good point. So throwing a party works, as usual. Invite the neighbors to party. Day of party get out there clearing sidewalks. Neighbors appreciate your concerns and pitch in. Start party early.

Now you are the guy who throws parties, not the cranky jerk with a sidewalk fetish. Approaching them regarding sidewalk safety takes on different context for the future.

 

[Zelig]

To improve your social skills?

Can do that better in other circumstances, my neighbors are mostly boring suburb-dwelling middle-age oil company office workers/soccer moms.

Very good point. So throwing a party works, as usual. Invite the neighbors to party. Day of party get out there clearing sidewalks. Neighbors appreciate your concerns and pitch in. Start party early.

Now you are the guy who throws parties, not the cranky jerk with a sidewalk fetish. Approaching them regarding sidewalk safety takes on different context for the future.

This is essentially an impossible amount of effort. It would be less effort to just work at my day job to make the money to pay a sidewalk clearing crew to deal with my neighborhood's sidewalks. But that's not my responsibility, that's the homeowner's responsibility.

And I already have parties to go to, I'd have to cancel those parties to host parties for boring neighbors, then I'd still have to spend time trying to track them down afterwards when they don't clear their sidewalks, some of them would still just ignore requests to do so, and then what recourse would I have?

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Can do that better in other circumstances, my neighbors are mostly boring suburb-dwelling middle-age oil company office workers/soccer moms.

This is essentially an impossible amount of effort. It would be less effort to just work at my day job to make the money to pay a sidewalk clearing crew to deal with my neighborhood's sidewalks. But that's not my responsibility, that's the homeowner's responsibility.

And I already have parties to go to, I'd have to cancel those parties to host parties for boring neighbors, then I'd still have to spend time trying to track them down afterwards when they don't clear their sidewalks, some of them would still just ignore requests to do so, and then what recourse would I have?

The solution here is glaringly obvious. You should move. Somewhere where you would fit in better.

 

[Zelig]

The solution here is glaringly obvious. You should move. Somewhere where you would fit in better.

I fit in fine, most people in my neighborhood keep to themselves and don't cause problems. It's the minority who are ignoring their civic responsibility who don't fit it. I'd be thrilled if they moved. I'd even buy their houses from them if they can't deal with the expense of clearing their sidewalks.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

I fit in fine, most people in my neighborhood keep to themselves and don't cause problems.

Keep to themselves and not cause problems? Do they know that you are a meddlesome self appointed sidewalk inspector? How do you fit in with them?

By the way, hiring someone to clear the walks would be a lot cheaper than buying their houses.

 

[Zelig]

Keep to themselves and not cause problems?

Yes.

Do they know that you are a meddlesome self appointed sidewalk inspector?

I don't agree with your premise.

How do you fit in with them?

I fit in with the majority who clear their sidewalks.

By the way, hiring someone to clear the walks would be a lot cheaper than buying their houses.

I'd give them below market value, real estate is currently underrepresented in my portfolio, I expect buying their houses would give me a net positive return.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

I'd give them below market value, real estate is currently underrepresented in my portfolio, I expect buying their houses would give me a net positive return.

I still don't understand why you haven't opted for the estate where you wouldn't be exposed to the lower orders at all.

 

[Zelig]

I still don't understand why you haven't opted for the estate where you wouldn't be exposed to the lower orders at all.

Easier to use smartphone app to report infrastructure problems.

People who don't want to follow rules of society are free to leave.