Sid variant

[ignas]

Sorry, i lied. Some things i didn't expect to are going wrong in my life so no time for this game. I guess Ivan should finish his turns.

But i looked at the save and saw.. a chaos: completely corrupted towns are building courthouses via engineers (like we will need courts or engineers, switch to scientists); our military is disorganised and scattered all over the map:Russia is about to capture our stack of artillery next turn (2infantries defending it won't hold on against a stream of guerrilas); too little forces in Persia - infantry army and few infantries will not hold on against ~100 guerrilas/rifles/cavs Persians are about to throw at Washington next turn;raze or gift Washington to other civ and hide everything under army untill reinforcements arrive; hire some more scientists and we will get flight in 6 turns

 

[I. Larkin]

OK, I continue then.
Really landing in Persia was wrong idea. I hope gift Cities to Greeks and move forward, unfortunately Persia made MPP.
AIRC I can bring some reinforcement to Russia.

 

[I. Larkin]

Played 2 more turns. things OK in first approximation...
I stoped here, will not have time to play next 3 days.
Also it is not clear what to do. Our army strong vs Persia and russia, French capture Seatle. i think we have goo chanse to abvance. Difficulty is that Ironclad block supply route.

Russia: we defenetly may hold Yaroslavl', but I am not sure what to do with Peterburg. Disband? Gift to France and make RoP? Try to hold?

 

[I. Larkin]

Dear Ignas and TheRat, I played 10 turn here, (and wrote TL for 6), and nothing special have happend at last 4. Save already 12 days here and I wonder if we are going to continue? I thought, that it is Ignas turn, but if he skip, skip then TheRat may be play? Or I continue myself?
Please, let me know.

 

[ignas]

I'm sure I can play tomorrow in the evening and post log and save on Saturday. That's fine?

 

[I. Larkin]

I'm sure I can play tomorrow in the evening and post log and save on Saturday. That's fine?

Sure, but really it take longer then 1 day

 

[ThERat]

am currently in Koh Samui. but back after the weekend. I can take the save after ignas then. we should try to finish this game before it is too old

 

[ignas]

1395AD war weariness is at 50%, up lux slider, sign many more entertainers/scientists; bomb Persian units; get a leader while fighting Persians, form an army; gift Petersburgh to France as we have no chances of keeping it; killed 22 Persian units and lost none

IT Persia recaptures Seattle; Russia sjgn peace with Germany

1400AD capture Seattle; make peace with Russians (we have insufficient number of troops there and war wearriness is kiling us); kill 15 Persian troops

IT 3 Persian guerrilas killed on defence; leave Seattle undefended purposely for baiting AI troops. It works - MANY Persian units head towards Seattle ignoring our defended towns

1405AD kill 4 riflemen in Philadelphia and take the city; 17 Persian units killed this turn

IT Germany and Persia sign peace; Flight comes in, we get Computers for free; set research Ecology towards Modern Armor; usually in my solo game i would have gifted scientific AI's for their free tech but in this game i guess we don't want AI to build UN and fight with tanks and Mech Infantry; Washington deposes

1410AD retake Washington; 52 guerrilas/riflemen/cavs marching towards undefended Seattle; start some research labs in our original island in case we are going for spaseship; upgrade some infantries to mech infantry; capture Atlanta sell buildings in Atlanta and rze the town, replace with settler closer to New York so we could siege it next turn; 9 Persian troops killed

IT wounded Persian troops running back home

1415AD kill 17 units inside (most were 1hp healing) and take size20 New York without loss;get a leader while fighting Persiasns -> Army; one more leader ->army; get a third leader in a turn->Army; kill 43 Persian units this turn while losing a guerrila and a tank; many promotions to elite

IT Russia and Persia alliance vs France; Philadelphia deposes us and pledge allegiance to Persians

1420AD retake Philadelphia; take size 19 Chicago killing 6 riflemen; no more flips - raze Chicago, Philadelphia, New york and replace them with our own towns; WW is at 60% so sign peace with Persians (we have no alliances against them so no rep hit); prepare armies to land in Japan;

IT Germany and Japan sign peace

1425AD land 6 MI's on Greek island; land 4 armies in Japan

IT Germany and Greece sign peace treaty; Japan chariot attacked 4 unit 16hp Mech Infantry army and took 1hp from it!; few longbows in Greece attacks MI's and dies

1430AD get leader in Japan and take Kagoshima; one more leader in Japan, ->Army; We have more armies than units to fill it; 3rd leader in a turn ->Army; More units deployed to Japan and to Greece; kill 21 foreign units in Japan

IT Japanese are attacking our fortified 4 unit MI army in Kagoshima with horses/chariots; kill 20 unit on defence, MI army loses 3 hp's; around 80 outdated units approach Kagoshima

1435AD get leader in Japan; rush Battlefield in Kagoshima

IT many Japanese units attacking Kagoshima and redlining our MI army; WW peaks at 50% again

1440AD attack Osaka, kill 27 units in it but still unfortified reg spear showing;leader in Japan->Intelligence Agency in Kagoshima; assign many specialists to prevent from rioting

IT many Japanese units impale on our armies in Kagoshima; Kagoshima completes IA; Greeks unload a stack of units near undefended capital

1445AD clear Greek stack near capital and get a leader; kill 28 units in Osaka but still redlined spear showing, Japan has MANY of outdated units

War weariness is at 40-60% and is hurting our research, probably it is better to sign peace.

Left some troops unmoved as we need to decide how to win. We are just 200 tile away from domination. So what's our goal: space or domination? If we are going for domination we could shut off research and ROP rape Persia, France.

 

[ThERat]

nice progress...I don't mind both victory conditions...however, the sponsor of the game should decide...I wait for the input until I play my turns

 

[I. Larkin]

We may continue as we wish, the idea of Variant was to prove that our research is powerfull enough. As I prosed before, we may continue like we are going to space, but if we "naturally" finish with Domination it will be OK. With Next leader we may consider Palace jump.

 

[ignas]

We have a leader: it is sitting now in our current capital. And where should we jump our palace?
Should we consider gifting sci civs to trade for their free techs?

 

[I. Larkin]

We have a leader: it is sitting now in our current capital. And where should we jump our palace?
Should we consider gifting sci civs to trade for their free techs?

Need to think about New capital. Sparta or NW part of home continent may be good.
If we gift sci we have to kill them quickly, or build UN.

 

[ignas]

Need to play a bit with civassist to look which city is better for new palace. If income will get better in new site then we could move, if not - don't bother.

 

[I. Larkin]

Need to play a bit with civassist to look which city is better for new palace. If income will get better in new site then we could move, if not - don't bother.

CivAssist a bit missleading: In core area there is no Corthouses that will help a lot later on...

 

[ThERat]

Preturn
jump palace to Sparta
continue to fight for now and get another MGL
rush some stuff

IT WW goes up a notch and several cities riot, not nice

1.1450AD
as Japan has a gazillion of units, make peace for the WW to go
make peace with Greece as well
try to plant a spy in Berlin and Germany declares war on us
rush a few things, some courts as well

IT ecology is in, go for the internet next in 10 turns

2.1455AD
land troops in Germany

3. 1460AD
surprisingly take Nuernberg after defeating only 4 units
move in more troops and advance towards Munich

IT Germans come with a mountain of units towards Nuernberg

4. 1465AD
take Munich after defeating 6 units

IT Germany suicides 16 units a Munich

5. 1470AD
get a leader for another army to fight Germany
mostly heal though

IT no attacks by Germany, thy onyl run around wild

6. 1475AD
prepare attack on Leipzig
reduce research to 80% else we run out of money

IT 12 units suicide at Nuernberg

7.1480AD
even though we lost maybe 1 unit, WW is substantial already. annoying
decide to throw in everything we have to get Leipzig and then make peace
defeat around 15-20 units and barely succeed, make peace

IT a lot of pollution strikes

8. 1485AD
nothing much


I stop here as I think I leave it to the sponsor of the game whether we go peaceful for space or take on Persia. I am sure Persia will give us enough land to get over the domination limit. We currently have close to 60% of the land

 

[I. Larkin]

I stop here as I think I leave it to the sponsor of the game whether we go peaceful for space or take on Persia. I am sure Persia will give us enough land to get over the domination limit. We currently have close to 60% of the land

My personal oppinion is to finish them ASAP. Clear, we dominate the world and SS is just the question of time/schields. + training not to have Domination. If Ignas and you want SS excersise I agree to continue. My vote: 60% - go for Domination 40% go for SS.

 

[ignas]

I'd say domination so we could finish faster. We also could start another SID SG faster

 

[ThERat]

ok with that, next player could switch off research and amass units in Persia and take them out swiftly, though it will be bloody, very bloody

 

[I. Larkin]

I got it and will try to finish them. Any idea about next Sid game? I am thinking about Arch / Continents with 1-2 neighbors nearby...

 

[ignas]

Maybe pangae (pangae is always a challenge) or 20K culture on archipelago?