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sounds good! I agree we should take on France. It will be a tough fight and we might face WW, but it is necessary.
By the way, there is no save, so ignas, can you post it? :scan:
 
This should be slaughterhouse a bit. Good luck
 

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MM, we can employ civil engineers and that makes more sense on many occasions rather than getting 2 uncorrupted shields
We should also get some science farms up
rush quite a bit of stuff

1.1160AD
get second army into position so we can attack with 2 armies. Fighting infantry won't be easy I guess
rush more stuff including a fair number of factories

2.1170AD
we need to road a hill to be able to access Elephantium with artillery, then we are ready for war
more rushing of stuff

3.1180AD
we can now reach Elephantium with our artillery, time for war
France declares war upon asking them to leave

defeat 4 infantry, 2 cavalry and 1 musket and take the city...flip risk very high
replace city after selling off the stuff inside

clear around 10-15 enemy units that are exposed, while losing only 1 cav
sign everyone else in for gpt against France
more rushing off stuff, I also get communism in case we want to build police stations for less corruption

IT lose 1 cav and 1 infantry to the French counter

4. 1190AD
defeat the intruders, most of them anyway
move army with artillery in range of Lyons

rush some stuff including a police station in Ashur

IT this time France has nothing much to offer

5. 1200AD
attack Lyons after shelling them properly, take out 5 units and the city is ours
from here we can reach Rheims. Lose 1 cav, but manage to raze it
replace it with Cheju
move troops and rush some stuff including settlers

IT no attacks from France except that they sink with 2 frigates trying to rid of of ours

6.1210AD
found 2 cities to ease access to Orleans and Paris
defeat a few remaining units in the back, while doing so, get a 3rd cav army, just nice

move units towards those 2 cities.
Rush more settlers (we want that land to be really settled)

IT France attacks our small landing band, but loses 2 cavs and doesn't succeed with 1 cav on the main Island either
we get steel, refining currently takes 8 turns, we also finally get Hoovers

7.1220AD
bomb as much as possible but not all units are red in Paris and Orleans
it costs us 5 cavalry, but we manage to take Orleans
Paris is size 18, I don't dare to attack it now
we need more artillery there, move some more there

found 3 more cities
the usual rushing of stuff

IT French attack with 3 cavs but all retreat
so far no flips thought I plan to keep those wonder cities

8. 1230AD
bombard Paris, at least 9 infantry inside, wait for more artillery from Orleans
2 wounded armies heal as well

cash rush another army, if we want to take Paris, we need quite a few of them

IT French aren't very successful with their attacks

9. 1240AD
first stage of WW kicks in, US would be nice, conveniently located in Paris defeat red cav and get another army

bombard Paris, still some yellow infantry inside
this is downright brutal as a pop 18 city won't just give up so easily
armies go red defeating a red infantry...I use everything we have to fight
lose around 8 cavalry (not good for WW, but no help here)

put as many units as possible into the city so we can starve it
found 2 more cities to fill some gaps

IT Lyon and Orleans depose us...this is of course a problem in the future

10. 1250AD
take back Lyon and raze it
raze Tours, take back Orleans
armies have to heal this turn, move stack of artillery towards Marseilles

leave it to the next player to rush more stuff..we can settle som gaps and should raze the French cities
I would keep Orleans and Paris for their wonders.

I purposely didn't fill the 5 armies we have with more than 3 units as we want to take out overseas cities

situation in former France
 
Got it. Hope this days are not that buisy. Whats about X - man?
 
question is what are we going to do? We still have more than 10 turns alliances against France. WW will surely increase, but we should be able to keep it low. If we attack wisely.

What are we going to do? Are we out to eliminate the French entirely? We have 5 armies able to ship. There are 2 empty galleons near our current frontline, so we can ship them over to the other Island to fight the French. There are more Islands however. It would take a long time to take them all out.

Maybe, we can switch sides once we have dented France enough and go after x-man?
 
lurker's comment:
Remembering the initial intent of this game, I think you should rather remain as peaceful as possible from now on, only striking back at those who attack you, and possibly run some short campaigns to take away strategic advantages from the AI (e.g., to stop a UN build or to deny uranium). I'm sure by now you've reached a point where you could take over the world easily, and the point would be to do that as fast as possible. Instead of that I'd rather see you guys go straight for space and see how fast you can do that without acquiring (much) more land.
 
Main intention was to demonstrate that humam player easy may overcome AIs with resarch. S Ship is a "bonus". Until now we research 100%. , but I got a point: may be with WW we may make a peace after 7 turns?
X- man if I ask "remove or declare"?
Edit: Put current save just in case.
 
0 1250*AD ""*Things look OK. Short -Rush something (army) press Enter.
IBT ZZZ
1 1255*AD ""*]"*Capture Marsel and Avingon. Put Artillery at position.

IBT ZZZ
2 1260*AD ""* Capture Chartlez. Found forpost. Bombard Toulouse.
Unload 2 Armies near Toulouse.
IBT ZZZ
3 1265*AD ""*Capture Toulouse.
IBT Marsel flipped.
4 1270*AD ""*Capture Marsel. Capture
IBT French capture Smolensk, French and Russia make peace treaty.
5 1275*AD ""* Put Artillery at position.
IBT French capture Pompei.
6 1280*AD ""*Capture Poitier. Unload near Pompei.
IBT French capture Antium.
7 1285*AD ""*Capture Besanson. Capture Pompei. Loose 2 Armies in attempt of capture Amines.
IBT ZZZ
8 1290*AD ""*Capture Amines. Capture Antium. Unload near Brest.
Trade RP and Fur to Persia, Res and Lux to Russia and Greeks.
IBT French kill Brest's “group” and capture 2 Artillery.
9 1295*AD ""* WW up. I think we stay at war while MA. Concentrate fleet with 2 Army and some guns “in the middle” of ocean.
Probably more troops needed on Brest Island. Send Ships to Upgrade in Heliopolis and sail "through" it to French Island. Not sure, we have to continue War that long.
IBT Some cities riot.
10 1300*AD ""* did not play this.
Edit: actually Ignas up
 
ignas? do you know you are up?
 
ok, I am playing this now
 
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1.1300AD
flip risks are unacceptably high and we won't fight France for much longer, thus it would be better to replace cities except for Paris
start with Chartres, replace with a city next to it that can grab the whale as well
reduce science to 80% and lux up to 20%
rush quite a few settler, rush a lot of other stuff, fix builds etc...the game looks very messy to me
after MM lux to 30% and science 70%, combustion still in 3

IT Marseilles deposes us, that why we have to get rid of them

2.1305AD
get rid of Marseilles, abandon Avignon and found city to fill the space
abandon Amiens, found more cities on that Island

land more units on 2 Islands, maybe we can reduce the number of French cities a little more

3.1310AD
lose 2 infantry, but manage to take New Chartres
take Brest with 4 armies, all are yellow or red after that

IT France lands some units in our back and new holdings
we get combustion

4. 1315AD
it's time for peace as we want to get rid of all the WW
cancel alliances, replace Brest, raze Smolensk
go for peace, get Vladivostok and 342 gold for that

5. 1320AD
prepare for assault on Rome

6.1325AD
still preparing as I want to bring over more armies so we can take them out fast
we are no in a rush here anyway

7.1330AD
shipping units...waiting for next turn

8. 1335AD
some action is needed
attack Rome and Persia declares on us
get an army attacking, defeat around 15 units in Rome, not enough though

IT we finally get the pentagon

9. 1340AD
take out 6 more units and Rome is ours, Cumae has only 2 units inside
Neapolis falls as well and Romans are gone quickly

IT Russia lands 4 units on our soil, this is a clear sneak attack
we get mass production

10. 1345AD
ask Russia to remove their units and they declare on us
fill Roman land with 3 more cities

I did not rush more commercial docks yet, though we can do that

We now make a big deficit doing 100% research. No AI would part with big gpt
Next player please decide the research we go for. Either flight or tanks. I did not invest a turn yet
our armies are all in Rome land, next player to decided whether we want to attack Russia or Persia
 
it's time for peace as we want to get rid of all the WW
cancel alliances, replace Brest, raze Smolensk
OK with peace, but AFAIK, MA rep does not hit if MA expired. BUT deal is better if MA still run.
Why raze Smolensk? It is small and far away...
 
Why raze Smolensk? It is small and far away...
I was an auto raze...I would have kept it as it is small. Currently we are blocking the tiles there and could build another city
 
I was an auto raze...I would have kept it as it is small. Currently we are blocking the tiles there and could build another city
I see... BTW was war with rome necessary? Perisa paid good gpt...
Things goes slow...
 
Don't have access to civ until saturday so skip again
It takes 1 day for 1.5 turn in avarage. (RL+ difficult logistics) So, probably Saturday (if real Saturday) is OK. Still playing.
 
If Ignas have time already he may start from 1375 AD. Really, war with Persia appears to be very difficult. Dunno, what will happend wit Russia...
 
0 1345*AD "" Difficult logistics… Transports in one place troops in another, Weak point Vladivostok, War with Persia is problematic. Brought Germany at MA vs Russia and Persia, and France vs Russia. Trade lux to Greeks.
IBT
1 1350*AD ""* defend Island against sea assault.
IBT ZZZ
2 1355*AD ""* Defend Vladivostok (troops arrived just in time.)
IBT some sea battle. Greek and Persia make MPP.
3 1360*AD "" Bring America at war vs Persia, unload near SF. Took Greeks money for gpt.
IBT Persia Capture SF. Greek declare to us
4 1365*AD ""* Capture Persian San-Francisco, Bring troops to attack Washington, Gift SF to France, gift small City to America. Capture Mycenas.
IBT Percia recapture SF and capture Seatle.
5 1370*AD ""*Capture Washington
IBT ZZZ
6 1375*AD ""*Capture Yaroslavl’.
 
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