Signs you're having cognitive dissonance

[BenitoChavez]

Sorry, I mistyped there: at one port there is constructive interference and at the other there is destructive. The reflecting surface of the beamsplitter imposes a phase shift of pi between the photons in one of the paths, so in that path you get destructive interference and the photons would go out the other port.

Ah ok, that makes sense. Thank you kindly

 

[14thwarrior]

I said it can be both? Fair enough, at no point did I say that was the end of the story though, did I?

If that is the best you can do to show I clearly said wave particle duality is the end of the story, I think we are done.

Yeah clearly I was not precise enough as I said, but if you are going to pull out that as the best example we are wasting time.

Oh and by the way you should probably explain the maths better there, the pi shift thing is a little confusing to me and I understand the maths. At one slit pi is x and at another it is, More precise more angled perhaps.

You know the maths clearly, so present it without the pi just does magic thing. It's a little lazy to be frank, no offense.

 

[14thwarrior]

I feel I should apologise to the OP for derailing the thread and of course the person I was talking to, it was not my intent to bicker or cause anyone any offense, but if it did then I am sorry.

At best it's a bit of a thread derailment a difference of opinion and pretty esoteric for a light hearted area of the forum. It's just a difference of opinion at the end of the day.

apologies, if anyone was in any way annoyed by what I said, that was not my intent.

 

[Kaitzilla]

#3 Q-tips; Box warns: Do no insert swab into ear canal.
All customers buy them mostly to clean out their ear canal.

 

[14thwarrior]

#3 Q-tips; Box warns: Do no insert swab into ear canal.
All customers buy them mostly to clean out their ear canal.

I don't get it.

Q tips we call something different. Apart from that thanks for being so gracious about the apology.

One of the most depressing things about humanity is that so many of us are herders. Kine if you will. Which has absolutely as much use as a blunt pencil in science. You don't get anywhere by being in a field with all the other sheep/cud eaters unless you are talking about something that is practically a law. Which is of course weaker than a theory, as it is easier to disprove.

Sorry again, feel free to post more about how evil the wolf is.


Besides if you don't like my rhetoric you should try peer review. It's not just a brutal it's well informed and most of the time entirely accurate aside from the formatting stuff, which is the same but annoyingly and correctly anal as it should be. If you like cozy little love ins, with all your bestest pals, I would avoid science all together and stick to WI meetings. It's your choice, and or funeral let's say... :]

Incidentally if you want to see where science really is, go here, it's moderated by proffessional scientists, in the entirity, or professional mathemeticians. Try the old there is no contention about anything in physics maths, let alone theory ploy and see how mobbed you get.

https://www.physicsforums.com/

If you said anything like that there was a sort of happy clapper familly in physics, you'll be booted as a crackpot though, so tone down the holier than though gospel though is my advice. And the expert thing is going to play about as well as a bull in a China shop too, because some of the people there are working at places you could only dream of. It's also a much better source than some random guy on the internet if you have any questions or maths problems.

 

[Mise]

You kind of made an ass of yourself here 14thwarrior.

 

[14thwarrior]

You kind of made an ass of yourself here 14thwarrior.

And now you're trolling.

No I didn't people like being trolls on days where their fundamental beliefs are simply challenged because the whole of science does not know.

If you want to tell me exactly why everything is just so like the last lot, then you need to know a lot more about physics than just, it is because I learnt that and that's what I think. The world is not like that in science, if you think the happy clapper movement is science you best not even bother talking to me let alone about science.

You have a bit of circle jerk here, where people can all hold on to something, because it's what they know.

If you want to forgo the I just know how it all works form of physics because that's what I learnt at school, I suggest you use those links I made, and come back when you see just how contentious the whole field is.

But saying a field is uncontentious when maths and the field is very contentious isn't any more than I learnt something 10 years ago so I know where the field is now. And as we know within ten years 50% of what you learn is obsolete. So you need to keep up.

If I am an ass, then they are donkeys/

Saddled and ridden by others all day.

So be it we can all claim we are authorities, but those that actually are seldom have the nerve to do so, because they actually are authorities.

I think a lot of people who become qualified who then do research or jobs become very specialised and then stop looking around. I think that is no one's fault work both absorbs and degrades the mind as Socrates says. But if you are going to come the big I am pay attention to now and the whole field. Because experts only make mistakes in a very narrow field, all of them, and that's just that small plain of grass they are chewing cud on.

I am tired personally of listening to people who say the maths in quantum mechanics is a sealed deal, and I am also tired of listening to people who are experts who think they are the big I am.

If nothing there hubris is depressing.

 

[14thwarrior]

I wont be posting any more on this subject so if your circle jerk wants whine some more save it.

If people want to whine at me some more, do it by pm. I'll ignore them and delete them too.

But his place is no place to discuss the finer points of physics, and the very fact you try is but another fall of man. You have nothing here that would denote authority or expertise. Just an agreement factory you call science. That is neither science or maths or anything it's just a friend zone.

If you want to discuss this properly go somewhere with real people who know alot, don't try and <snip> about on a civ forum, it's a waste of time.

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