Small Observations General Thread (things not worth separate threads)

They say each Civ has a unique architectural style . . . but if you look at the Greece and Rome game guides on their site, both have the exact same buildings (other than unique ones). So I'm not sure if he just misspoke and we will still have 'regional' art styles. Or if they really will all be unique and they just haven't finished and implemented them yet.
Ancient Greek and Roman architecture are indeed quite similar, as Roman architecture was heavily influenced by Greek designs. The Romans adopted and adapted many elements from Greek architecture, such as columns and decorative styles, while adding their own innovations like arches and domes. So, if the game shows similarities between Greek and Roman buildings, it is completely normal.
 

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I guess that could be true but they talked about the radius pretty definitively in the stream. I do think that’d be a cool mechanic though…increase the radius with each age.

I won’t hold my breath but it’s a good idea.
So much about the later Ages is Speculation at this point that I agree there is nothing Definite.

But the stream was all about the Antiquity Age, so there's still hope for later, and this is one place where Age differences in City size make perfect sense from both a game-play and historical standpoint.

Over 4 months to Go, so much yet to Know!
 
Ancient Greek and Roman architecture are indeed quite similar, as Roman architecture was heavily influenced by Greek designs. The Romans adopted and adapted many elements from Greek architecture, such as columns and decorative styles, while adding their own innovations like arches and domes. So, if the game shows similarities between Greek and Roman buildings, it is completely normal.
Yes of course Greek and Roman architecture are very similar.

But from what they have shown us, they are using the EXACT same art assets. Identical, which doesn't correlate with their comment that each would be unique.
 
It seems pretty clear that they use the same building sets for civilizations with similar cultures (it would be kind of insane otherwise), but there are civilization-specific variations of some buildings such as the Palace and City Hall, so I suppose they're not technically wrong when they say that civilization buildings are unique.
 
It seems pretty clear that they use the same building sets for civilizations with similar cultures (it would be kind of insane otherwise), but there are civilization-specific variations of some buildings such as the Palace and City Hall, so I suppose they're not technically wrong when they say that civilization buildings are unique.
Nobody has Infinite Art Assets. To use what you have to distinguish between Corinthian and Doric column decorations at the scale of Civ's buildings would be hard to justify given all the other animated and static graphic elements in the game that require distinguishing graphical elements for game-play, like Civ-specific details on Units, Unique Buildings, etc.
 
They say each Civ has a unique architectural style . . . but if you look at the Greece and Rome game guides on their site, both have the exact same buildings (other than unique ones). So I'm not sure if he just misspoke and we will still have 'regional' art styles. Or if they really will all be unique and they just haven't finished and implemented them yet.
If you look closely, they do have different looking palaces.
 
while adding their own innovations like arches and domes.
My anti-Roman bias has to point out that Romans did not develop arches and domes; they got them from the Etruscans and West Asia. :mischief:
 
My anti-Roman bias has to point out that Romans did not develop arches and domes; they got them from the Etruscans and West Asia. :mischief:
Typically, while the Romans did not develop arches/domes, they did develop the engineering techniques to use stacked arches to build structures like the Pont du Gard in (modern) France and the exceptional concrete dome of the Pantheon, which is still the world's largest unreinforced concrete dome at 43 meters diameter and height.
 
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Typically, while the Romans did not develop arches/domes, they did develop the engineering techniques to use stacked arches to build structures like the Pont du Gard in (modern) France and the exceptional concrete dome of the Pantheon, which is still the world's largest uneinforced concrete dome at 43 meters diameter and height.
Shh, I'm just trying to accuse the Romans of being creatively sterile technology plunderers who conquer all the interesting civs and rob them of their innovations. :mischief: (Unfortunately, even I have to acknowledge that the Pantheon is a work of art.)
 
Shh, I'm just trying to accuse the Romans of being creatively sterile technology plunderers who conquer all the interesting civs and rob them of their innovations. :mischief: (Unfortunately, even I have to acknowledge that the Pantheon is a work of art.)
My point is that the Romans may not have been particularly original, but they were very good at Application of other peoples' discoveries - going all the way back to their copying the Carthaginians' Quinquereme designs to build their navy.

Unfortunately or fortunately, in game terms that tends to give them a lot of structural Wonders and wonderous buildings: Colosseum, Pantheon, Baths of Caracalla, the whole road and aqueduct network, etc.

Love 'em or despise 'em, you can't ignore 'em.
 
In fairness don't most civilizations get their technology/techniques from other civilizations?
Most civilizations interact with the civilizations around them so that technologies and techniques spread, yes--even when they actively try to prevent the spread, as with Phoenician glassblowing, for instance. The Romans really are exceptional for the lengths they went to acquire other civilizations' techniques--generally by acquiring the civilization itself. :mischief: As I said, the Borg of the ancient world. :borg: But again, I'm biased. I find the Romans unimaginative and uncultured--I really think we should use their name in place of the insult "philistine," given the Philistines are known for their distinctive style of art. :p
 
Most civilizations interact with the civilizations around them so that technologies and techniques spread, yes--even when they actively try to prevent the spread, as with Phoenician glassblowing, for instance. The Romans really are exceptional for the lengths they went to acquire other civilizations' techniques--generally by acquiring the civilization itself. :mischief: As I said, the Borg of the ancient world. :borg: But again, I'm biased. I find the Romans unimaginative and uncultured--I really think we should use their name in place of the insult "philistine," given the Philistines are known for their distinctive style of art. :p
The Romans also have a distinctive style of art.

It's called "Greek", as they would have told you themselves . . .
 
I guess that could be true but they talked about the radius pretty definitively in the stream. I do think that’d be a cool mechanic though…increase the radius with each age.

I won’t hold my breath but it’s a good idea.

At least I hope they make it easier to mod this time around.
 
My anti-Roman bias has to point out that Romans did not develop arches and domes; they got them from the Etruscans and West Asia. :mischief:
and Nirvana wasn't the first grunge band, but it's hard to argue with Nevermind
 
and Nirvana wasn't the first grunge band, but it's hard to argue with Nevermind
It's also hard to argue with we might well be speaking Punic if it weren't for the bloody Romans. :mad: :p
 
It's also hard to argue with we might well be speaking Punic if it weren't for the bloody Romans. :mad: :p
It's rather easy to argue... I'm not currently speaking Latin. (And before you say it, the language I'm speaking is far more German than Latin.) 😁
 
It's rather easy to argue... I'm not currently speaking Latin. (And before you say it, the language I'm speaking is far more German than Latin.) 😁
And if the earliest migrants to America from Siberia had brought along cattle and/or goats/sheep, my ancestors would probably still be in Germany and the population of this part of America would be speaking Salish . . .
 
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