After promising him he'll be allowed 10 turns next rotation, MB agreed to be skipped this round, so Ted you're UP.
edit: spelling
edit: spelling
Space-1: War While Waiting
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TedJackson
Cunning old Celt
Got it
Play this afternoon (+4 hrs)
Ted
Play this afternoon (+4 hrs)
Ted
I am back and will be able to play my next turn normally.
Welcome back. 
TedJackson
Cunning old Celt
SP1-1770AD
Pre-flight checks... OK
It's good to see that all our opponents have dropped back into Communism. Must mean that they are hurting
Switch Cavalry builds to Tanks
Switch Reykyavik from Temple to Market
Press button...
Naval attacks on (from the East)
Rome Tank - Tank
Iznik Walls - Barracks
Nineveh Worker - Worker
Antium Bank - Dock
Neapolis Artillery - Tank
Pompeii Inf - Tank
Byzantium Tank - Uni
Brundisium Inf - Inf (no good builds as prod is 74-2 spt)
Eridu Worker - Worker
Lutetia Stock - Tank (needs mines)
Palmyra Arty - Tank
1 - 1772AD
Bombard Herakleia - Destroying Stock, Barracks & Harbour - kill 1 pop
Pollution Patrol
Bombard Corinth - destroy Harbour, Barracks - kill 4 pop
New Veii founded (on hill)
Arty & Troops Advance on Edrine
Gather loose Arty on the mainland and station them near Rome
Research 60% (Radio 8 turns @ +118gpt)
It looks as if I'll concentrate my attacks on Edrine (Newton's), Herakleia, Avaris & Corinth. Perhaps sending out pillaging forces once Corinth and Edrine are dealt with. We seem to be closing the culture gap at last
IBT
The Egyptians send a stack of Inf our way and the gaps I left in our defenses attracts a few flies
Veii Inf - Battleship
Everywhere else starts Tanks
2 - 1774AD
That's a stack of 12 Egyptian Inf! and the Ottoman are sending Sipahi from the North and East along with the occasional Inf
Bombard Edrine - destroying Stock, Police, 3 pop, Barracks, Temple, Market - now pop 12
Bombard Egyptian Inf SoD - all injured, most now 2/4
Use 2 Elite Cavs to kill 2 Egyptian Cavs
Elite Cav kills Sipahi
Upgrade Galleon
Our first Tanks set sail with a Settlerm 8 Workers and 8 Slaves to make up 3 Transports full.
Egypt & Ottoman have Electronics
IBT
More Egyptian Inf show up
3 - 1776AD
Sorry, lost my notes for this turn as my computer crashed inter-turn.
Basically we captured Herakleia & killed some enemy units
I think we had 4 or 5 Elite Cav vistories
IBT
A long session of Naval bombardment - not much damage
Egypt and Ottoman land a few units on the mainland
4 - 1778AD
Kill invaders getting 1 elite Tank in the process.
New Antium founded
IBT
Lots of Naval bombardment at Herakleia - the Rubber seems to be the main target
5 - 1780AD
Bombard Edrine & Avaris down to pop 1
Avaris captured for no losses
Edrine captured for no losses
Our (rather larger) Foothold
North
South
Notes
None of our opponents have Mass Production yet so Tanks still have a reasonable window of opportunity.
I captured Edrine, Herakleia & Avaris. If the next player wants to abandon & resettle there are sufficient Settlers in Aydin.
I have a Pillaging Cav Army (with a couple of Cav outriders) doing the business on Istanbul.
I think cutting off Istanbul then working our way round the coastal cities - starting with Kafa and then diverting to snap up Uskudar (Ivory) - is our fastest way to dispose of the Ottoman while continuing to pillage Istanbul.
The Southern peninsula is now ours so a second front could be opened up to the Southeast, attacking Greece as far as Athens then swinging South to Thebes.
I've left all the Workers fortified around Pompeii (still with movement) so if the next player spots an opportunity they're easy to find.
All our holdings on the enemy continent are connected by rail so getting Tanks (as they arrive) to the front lines should be easier now.
In hindsight we should have researched Flight first as that would have allowed us to build Airports or Airfields and get re-inforcements to the war zone sooner.
The save is > here <
Ted
Pre-flight checks... OK
It's good to see that all our opponents have dropped back into Communism. Must mean that they are hurting
Switch Cavalry builds to Tanks
Switch Reykyavik from Temple to Market
Press button...
Naval attacks on (from the East)
Rome Tank - Tank
Iznik Walls - Barracks
Nineveh Worker - Worker
Antium Bank - Dock
Neapolis Artillery - Tank
Pompeii Inf - Tank
Byzantium Tank - Uni
Brundisium Inf - Inf (no good builds as prod is 74-2 spt)
Eridu Worker - Worker
Lutetia Stock - Tank (needs mines)
Palmyra Arty - Tank
1 - 1772AD
Bombard Herakleia - Destroying Stock, Barracks & Harbour - kill 1 pop
Pollution Patrol
Bombard Corinth - destroy Harbour, Barracks - kill 4 pop
New Veii founded (on hill)
Arty & Troops Advance on Edrine
Gather loose Arty on the mainland and station them near Rome
Research 60% (Radio 8 turns @ +118gpt)
It looks as if I'll concentrate my attacks on Edrine (Newton's), Herakleia, Avaris & Corinth. Perhaps sending out pillaging forces once Corinth and Edrine are dealt with. We seem to be closing the culture gap at last
IBT
The Egyptians send a stack of Inf our way and the gaps I left in our defenses attracts a few flies
Veii Inf - Battleship
Everywhere else starts Tanks
2 - 1774AD
That's a stack of 12 Egyptian Inf! and the Ottoman are sending Sipahi from the North and East along with the occasional Inf
Bombard Edrine - destroying Stock, Police, 3 pop, Barracks, Temple, Market - now pop 12
Bombard Egyptian Inf SoD - all injured, most now 2/4
Use 2 Elite Cavs to kill 2 Egyptian Cavs
Elite Cav kills Sipahi
Upgrade Galleon
Our first Tanks set sail with a Settlerm 8 Workers and 8 Slaves to make up 3 Transports full.
Egypt & Ottoman have Electronics
IBT
More Egyptian Inf show up
3 - 1776AD
Sorry, lost my notes for this turn as my computer crashed inter-turn.
Basically we captured Herakleia & killed some enemy units
I think we had 4 or 5 Elite Cav vistories
IBT
A long session of Naval bombardment - not much damage
Egypt and Ottoman land a few units on the mainland
4 - 1778AD
Kill invaders getting 1 elite Tank in the process.
New Antium founded
IBT
Lots of Naval bombardment at Herakleia - the Rubber seems to be the main target
5 - 1780AD
Bombard Edrine & Avaris down to pop 1
Avaris captured for no losses
Edrine captured for no losses
Our (rather larger) Foothold
North
South
Notes
None of our opponents have Mass Production yet so Tanks still have a reasonable window of opportunity.
I captured Edrine, Herakleia & Avaris. If the next player wants to abandon & resettle there are sufficient Settlers in Aydin.
I have a Pillaging Cav Army (with a couple of Cav outriders) doing the business on Istanbul.
I think cutting off Istanbul then working our way round the coastal cities - starting with Kafa and then diverting to snap up Uskudar (Ivory) - is our fastest way to dispose of the Ottoman while continuing to pillage Istanbul.
The Southern peninsula is now ours so a second front could be opened up to the Southeast, attacking Greece as far as Athens then swinging South to Thebes.
I've left all the Workers fortified around Pompeii (still with movement) so if the next player spots an opportunity they're easy to find.
All our holdings on the enemy continent are connected by rail so getting Tanks (as they arrive) to the front lines should be easier now.
In hindsight we should have researched Flight first as that would have allowed us to build Airports or Airfields and get re-inforcements to the war zone sooner.
The save is > here <
Ted
Well done, Ted. 
Yeah, I know, Flight before Radio. I hadn't realized we needed both anyway to get to Fission, oh well.
Karasu, you're UP.
Yeah, I know, Flight before Radio. I hadn't realized we needed both anyway to get to Fission, oh well.
Karasu, you're UP.
Here I am!
Got the file, but I won't be able to open it before tomorrow evening.
How far from domination?
Got the file, but I won't be able to open it before tomorrow evening.
How far from domination?
TedJackson
Cunning old Celt
We need 230 more tiles & 97 more pop as at 1780AD.
Ted
Ted
Remember guys, conquest is our goal! So only keep the cities we want or strategically need.
And raze and burn all the rest... :devil2:
Pre-turn
Everything fine. I just give a look around to see where our units are.
It looks like we can spare an Infantry Army for a tentative pillaging raid in Greek territory -let's see how it works, I am starting to like pillaging... :devil2:
Move a few fortified units, and hit Enter then.
IT
The usual bombardment.
Sipahis kill two stray cavalries of ours.
Babylon: Settler -
Niagara Falls, Allegheny, Stockholm, Ravenna, Handyaugusta: Tank - Tank
Mediolanum, Spacium, Lauriacum, Hippo Regius: Worker - Marketplace
Pisae: Bank - Battleship
Our people love us so much that they improve our Palace with some nice additions from all over the world...
Turn 1 - 1782 AD
Rush Commercial Dock in Antium
Rush Barracks in Iznik, Arretium and Ephesus
Rush Temple in New Rome
Start bombardment of Kafa
The Cavalry army pillages the countryside around Istanbul
Skirmishes along the Ottoman-Greek border, bombarded and killed a few enemy units without losses.
Do you mind it so much if I automate some workers in our home continent?
IT
Ops. I had misplaced a Tank. It falls having valiantly killed two Sipahi attackers.
Rome, Neapolis, Pompeii, Brundisium, Lutetia, Palmyra, Seleucia: Tank - Tank
Veii: Battleship - Battleship
Iznik: Barracks - Temple
Antium: Commercial Dock - Battleship
Curia: Worker - Marketplace
Birka: Artillery - Destroyer
Viroconium: Tank - Battleship
Ephesus: Barracks - Temple
Augustadorum: Library - Harbour
Arretium: Barracks - Temple
New Rome: Temple - Worker
Edrine defects to the Ottomans, taking away three Elite Cavs and three Infantries.
Turn 2 - 1784 AD
Edrine is recaptured and razed. Sorry for Newton's...
Corinth is captured and kept -just because of Magellan's Voyage.
Work on Kafa and Istanbul continues
I manage to loose a Destroyer against an Ironclad off Birka
IT
The Greek attack Corinth en masse, loosing really a lot of cavalries. We loose an Infantry Army and two Tanks though...
Niagara Falls, Tarentum, Cumae, Allegheny, Artaxata, Molde, Handyaugusta: Tank - Tank
Corfinium, Gordion: Worker - Harbour
Stavanger: Worker - Marketplace
Londinium: Aqueduct - Marketplace
Brundisium: Courthouse - Aqueduct
Teurnia: Worker - Aqueduct
Turn 3 - 1786 AD
Resistance in Corinth ends. Rush Temple.
Reinforcements arrive to Corinth: artillery + Tanks outside Corinth start butchering the invading troops.
Rush Temple in Iznik
Settler is in position to replace Edrine. Tanks are going there, while bombardments and pillaging continue in Ottoman lands.
IT
Another wave of attacks on Corinth.
Radio is discovered. Flight due in 8 turns at 60% science (+103 gpt, would be 7 turns and -19 gpt at 70%).
Rome, Pompeii, Stockholm, Brundisium, Palmyra: Tank - Tank
Bergen: Settler - Marketplace
Iznik: Temple - Civil Defense (Yuk! Never done this!)
Corinth: Temple - Barracks
Oil Springs: Courthouse - Aqueduct
Byzantium: University - Battleship
Nicopolis: Library - Harbour
Turn 4 - 1788 AD
New Cumae is founded on the site of old Edrine. Barracks are ordered.
Kafa is conquered and razed (no losses). A number of Tanks is sent North to raze and burn more Ottoman cities.
IT
Nicomedia, Niagara Falls, Allegheny, Neapolis, Artaxata, Ravenna, Lutetia, Handyaugusta: Tank - Tank
Hispalis: Tank - Battleship
Toledo: Worker - Marketplace
Santiago: Worker - Harbour
Vitoria: Harbour - Destroyer
Lugdunum: Courthouse - Tank
Turn 5 - 1790 AD
A Battleship and a Destroyer manage to sink an Egyptian Ironclad + Galleon...
Rush Barracks in Corinth.
The Greek pillaging stack is formed on the hill south of Corinth.
That's it. Istanbul can be disconnected from the rest of the Ottoman cities in a couple of turns -but they are already sending groups of only two-three Sipahis.
The main wave of attacks from Greece and Egypt on Corinth seems to have passed a couple of turns after it was taken. They are still coming, but we managed to cut our way to the hill south of the city.
I was curious to see if we can roam their country pillaging at our leisure as much as the Cavalry army is doing around Istanbul. Athens is not far away...
Here it comes
Everything fine. I just give a look around to see where our units are.
It looks like we can spare an Infantry Army for a tentative pillaging raid in Greek territory -let's see how it works, I am starting to like pillaging... :devil2:
Move a few fortified units, and hit Enter then.
IT
The usual bombardment.
Sipahis kill two stray cavalries of ours.
Babylon: Settler -
Niagara Falls, Allegheny, Stockholm, Ravenna, Handyaugusta: Tank - Tank
Mediolanum, Spacium, Lauriacum, Hippo Regius: Worker - Marketplace
Pisae: Bank - Battleship
Our people love us so much that they improve our Palace with some nice additions from all over the world...
Turn 1 - 1782 AD
Rush Commercial Dock in Antium
Rush Barracks in Iznik, Arretium and Ephesus
Rush Temple in New Rome
Start bombardment of Kafa
The Cavalry army pillages the countryside around Istanbul
Skirmishes along the Ottoman-Greek border, bombarded and killed a few enemy units without losses.
Do you mind it so much if I automate some workers in our home continent?
IT
Ops. I had misplaced a Tank. It falls having valiantly killed two Sipahi attackers.
Rome, Neapolis, Pompeii, Brundisium, Lutetia, Palmyra, Seleucia: Tank - Tank
Veii: Battleship - Battleship
Iznik: Barracks - Temple
Antium: Commercial Dock - Battleship
Curia: Worker - Marketplace
Birka: Artillery - Destroyer
Viroconium: Tank - Battleship
Ephesus: Barracks - Temple
Augustadorum: Library - Harbour
Arretium: Barracks - Temple
New Rome: Temple - Worker
Edrine defects to the Ottomans, taking away three Elite Cavs and three Infantries.
Turn 2 - 1784 AD
Edrine is recaptured and razed. Sorry for Newton's...
Corinth is captured and kept -just because of Magellan's Voyage.
Work on Kafa and Istanbul continues
I manage to loose a Destroyer against an Ironclad off Birka
IT
The Greek attack Corinth en masse, loosing really a lot of cavalries. We loose an Infantry Army and two Tanks though...
Niagara Falls, Tarentum, Cumae, Allegheny, Artaxata, Molde, Handyaugusta: Tank - Tank
Corfinium, Gordion: Worker - Harbour
Stavanger: Worker - Marketplace
Londinium: Aqueduct - Marketplace
Brundisium: Courthouse - Aqueduct
Teurnia: Worker - Aqueduct
Turn 3 - 1786 AD
Resistance in Corinth ends. Rush Temple.
Reinforcements arrive to Corinth: artillery + Tanks outside Corinth start butchering the invading troops.
Rush Temple in Iznik
Settler is in position to replace Edrine. Tanks are going there, while bombardments and pillaging continue in Ottoman lands.
IT
Another wave of attacks on Corinth.
Radio is discovered. Flight due in 8 turns at 60% science (+103 gpt, would be 7 turns and -19 gpt at 70%).
Rome, Pompeii, Stockholm, Brundisium, Palmyra: Tank - Tank
Bergen: Settler - Marketplace
Iznik: Temple - Civil Defense (Yuk! Never done this!)
Corinth: Temple - Barracks
Oil Springs: Courthouse - Aqueduct
Byzantium: University - Battleship
Nicopolis: Library - Harbour
Turn 4 - 1788 AD
New Cumae is founded on the site of old Edrine. Barracks are ordered.
Kafa is conquered and razed (no losses). A number of Tanks is sent North to raze and burn more Ottoman cities.
IT
Nicomedia, Niagara Falls, Allegheny, Neapolis, Artaxata, Ravenna, Lutetia, Handyaugusta: Tank - Tank
Hispalis: Tank - Battleship
Toledo: Worker - Marketplace
Santiago: Worker - Harbour
Vitoria: Harbour - Destroyer
Lugdunum: Courthouse - Tank
Turn 5 - 1790 AD
A Battleship and a Destroyer manage to sink an Egyptian Ironclad + Galleon...
Rush Barracks in Corinth.
The Greek pillaging stack is formed on the hill south of Corinth.
That's it. Istanbul can be disconnected from the rest of the Ottoman cities in a couple of turns -but they are already sending groups of only two-three Sipahis.
The main wave of attacks from Greece and Egypt on Corinth seems to have passed a couple of turns after it was taken. They are still coming, but we managed to cut our way to the hill south of the city.
I was curious to see if we can roam their country pillaging at our leisure as much as the Cavalry army is doing around Istanbul. Athens is not far away...
Here it comes
I got it and hope to play tomorrow.
Nice work Karasu, seems you have the Ottoman under control.
Corinth is very defendable, a good launching point to really hurt Greece.
Corinth is very defendable, a good launching point to really hurt Greece.
@Handy: since MB's boiler problems seems to be over, I'd like to give him the chance to play his 5 turns after Greebley, I hope that's OK with you.
So Greebley is UP, MB is on deck.
So Greebley is UP, MB is on deck.
TedJackson
Cunning old Celt
There was a discussion in another thread, MB4 I think, about the A/D cutoff (where armies become targets).
Looking at SP1 I'm quite surprised that Sipahi haven't attacked our Cav army as the A/D ratio is 8:3 or expressed as a differential 5.
Ted
p.s. Good work on Corinth Karasu. I couldn't quite get there in my turn
Looking at SP1 I'm quite surprised that Sipahi haven't attacked our Cav army as the A/D ratio is 8:3 or expressed as a differential 5.
Ted
p.s. Good work on Corinth Karasu. I couldn't quite get there in my turn
Ted, they *do* attack. Here's the quote from a while ago:
So be aware of that, guys.
So be aware of that, guys.
TedJackson
Cunning old Celt
Sorry Space I phrased it badly 
I was aware of Sipahi attacking a Cav army in the past. That's why I'm quite surprised that Sipahi haven't attacked our Cav army that's currently pillaging Istanbul
Ted
I was aware of Sipahi attacking a Cav army in the past. That's why I'm quite surprised that Sipahi haven't attacked our Cav army that's currently pillaging Istanbul
Ted
They probably 'sense' a weaker target in Aydin. I noticed on my turns they were trying to get at it, exposing themselves to our counter attack.
They have only been coming to New Cumae for the last few turns, and only with 3-4 Sipahis. They may be about to crumble...
Indeed, it was surpising to see some of those Sipahi drive next to our pillaging army without even noticing it!
On the other hand, the counter-attack on Corinth was really brutal... but a lot of fun! They seemed really determined to get Magellan back
Indeed, it was surpising to see some of those Sipahi drive next to our pillaging army without even noticing it!
On the other hand, the counter-attack on Corinth was really brutal... but a lot of fun! They seemed really determined to get Magellan back
Originally posted by TedJackson
Sorry Space I phrased it badly
I was aware of Sipahi attacking a Cav army in the past. That's why I'm quite surprised that Sipahi haven't attacked our Cav army that's currently pillaging Istanbul
Ted
At an even more unvaforable ratio than Cav agaisnt Cav-army the AI (at least in PTW) attacked Knight armies (3 elite) with vet-Knights (for example in GM-2) when they have no softer targets in range.
Btw,
for an AW game without iron in the first stage of the game, congrats to all.
