stGMNES2: The Middle Ages

OOC: No, you cannot increase your economy by investing money. You increase your economy by conquering new land, opening trade with foreign countries, instituting policies like land reforms etc (requires a story to be effective); stuff like that. It might change, but that's how it'll work for now.
 
i just took it...
 
Sorry Xen, Alex994 had reserved the Byzantines in the original thread, and got here before you. However, if you'd still like to play, we'd be glad to have you. :D You had expressed interest in playing an Italian state. Still interested?
 
well, the cavalry thing still applies- the excellnt cataphract has existed for quite a while, repleced are hords of the ****ty Stratiotai- have fun ;)
 
and I have to think, the only one that appeals to me at all really is venice, hoever its weak, its has a much smaller army then it should (it was, IIRC, still the official protector of Byzantine interests in the region at this time)
 
Well, its rich enough to buy thousands of troops on this first turn, and it does have the strongest navy in the world. If you'd like to play Venice, I'll put you on the list. I think you could do good things with it. ;)
 
sure, sign me up then :)
 
To Venice(if ur joining)
From Byzantium

What do u say for an alliance between us?
 
To: Byzantium

From: Venice


*secret*
an allaince would be most benificial, though we ask that the nations bordering the adriatic sea be left for Ventian empansion if done, and that you would acknowledge Ventian claims to Crete, and Cyprus, in return, the Ventian navy will protect Byzantine trade vessals and covoys in the western Med. Sea.
 
Orders:

PM'd
 
FROM: THE HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE

To: France

Would you agree to a Non Agression Pact?

To: Venice

Would you agree to an alliance?

To: Byzantium

As the last two bearers of the title of "Roman", would you agree to an alliance?

To: Sicily

Will you agree to a NAP?
 
Welcome aboard, aaMinion. I'm going to wait to see if anyone wants to join as the NPC nations before answering NPC diplo. If nobody joins as those countries by tomorrow, I'll answer the diplo. I want to give people the chance for a fresh start. ;)
 
To: The Holy "Roman" Empire

From: Venice


*secret*
well, Venice will agree to an agreement where we mutually defend each others possesions in our immediate areas- your land is vast- and the last thing venicer wishes to do militarilly is deploy troops so far from any of our own territories, more over in the cold and rather miserbel areas of northern europe (from the Med. Sea perspective of course, I'm sure the natives find northern europe just fine)

to that end, Venice would like to voice its intentions of reuntieing the Itallian states under unfied rule- unified, Venitian rule, we wish to cause no contention with your kingdom, so we feel it is approprieate to let you in on these plans, so that our nations goals do not conflict in the fututure
 
To Venice*secret*
From Byzantium

How about this, we give u our lands in italy, and we get rites to Crete and Cyprus

To Holy Roman Empire
From Byzantium

We agree to your offer of alliance.
 
**SECRET**
To: Venice
From: The HRE

Unification of the Italian states we might even support, if you do not intrude on the Empire's holdings in Italy. Barbarossa fought for our right to have that land, and we will not give it up.

As to the alliance, we would aid you, and if you could aid us in the south of the Empire, south of the Alps, then that would be appreciated. No need for you to gallavant across Northern Germany.

Edit: By the way, we object to your mocking of the title Roman. That title was granted by God. And surely one would not object to God's gifts?
 
the Tale of the Turkmen

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In the valleys and plains North of Persia there were a people who thrived independent from the rest of the world for years. Skilled with the bow and born on horses, they rode far and wide each day with their families and companions, pledging allegiance to no one but the Shah, and god. They used to obey nobody, it wasn't so long ago. They were nomads, moving from place to place with their herds, ransacking what they could, and living their lives this way for centuries. Over the years they found themselves going to the West, and it wasn't long before they met Arabic traders. These men were rich, and well learned in things the Turkmen could only begin to understand. They taught them many things, such as mathametics, reading, and writing. But most important of all, they told them of god.

There was no god but god, and his prophet was Mohammed. The leader of the richest clan among the Turkmen was taught to read and write the language of the prophet and given the holy book. His name was Irmud, and he was overwhelmed by the powerful messages inside this work the merchants called the Qu'ran. He immediatly ordered that his family convert, and soon all the families in his clan followed. With his clan, came the other clans, until all the Turkmen from the plains in the North, to the desert in the South.believed in god and his prophet. They united around Irmud, and his home village became the small city of Khiva, around which he established a tiny little state.

Several generations later, Shah Tekish came to the throne of the Turkmen in the fortress at Khiva. Before the death of his father, Irmud's grandson, Tekish had been sent to learn in Baghdad and Damascus. There he learned of medicine, astromony, strategy, physics, theology, and the tongues of the Persians, Arabs, Romans, and Greeks. A well taught man, Tekish returned to his kingdom in around 1200 a.d.

Knowing the splendors of the Abbasid caliphate, Tekish realized that Khiva and the petty lands around the puny capital would never do for the Muslim empire Tekish wanted to establish. So he ordered his people to move. Khiva would still be the seat of his empire, but his generals were to move his lands elsewhere. The clans were to take their animals and the clan leaders their men, and move to the Northwest towards the Caspian sea. This great sea, was where Tekish would establish his empire.

Tekish knew his people and large army could do it, but he did not want his economy to suffer while he expanded. In fact, he wanted it to improve. So he gathered his viziers and scribes, and ordered them to ride out on horseback before the great movement. Their mission was to find out the number of families and clans under Tekish's control, and as much about them as they could. What languages they spoke, how many animals they had and of which type, how many men of fighting age lived with them, and then to add all this together to figure out the status of the Turkmen kingdom. It would be called the census, something Tekish learned from his study of history, and it would be the first of it's kind in his part of the world.

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Turkmen
Shah Tekish / AAminion00
Capital: Khiva
Goverment: Absolute Monarchy
Religion: Sunni Islam
Income: 3
Treasury: 3
Army: 8000 Swordsmen, 4000 Horse Archers
Navy: none
Education: Mediocore
Wonders: none

Orders

- Purchase 500 Horse Archers (3 credits)
- Improve economy by taking a count of the Shah's posessions
- Expand Northwest with bulk of army. Majority of people are to move to these lands as well, as long as they're fertile. Khiva and the surrounding territories will not be abandonned... yet... but the focus of the kingdom will certainly switch towards the Caspian sea.
 
look on next page...
 
To: Byzantium

From: Venice


well, we would indee dmuch appreciate the lands in italy- though we would like Crete, however, Venice is willing to hammer out a deal-

what Venice gets-

A)Byzantien Italy
B)Crete

What Byzantium gets-
A)Cyprus
B)naval aid in Byzantine military expiditions in the east for the next 100 years (10 turns, a long time considering that NES like stJNES8 have not passed that mark yet, IIRC, despite being up for several weeks)
C)may use crete as a naval station

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why should venice get crete?

because- Venice has the largest navy- if any one can secure the trade routs, its us, and to do that we need a firn naval base in the east, as well as where we plan to expand in the west (EG; Italy, and Sicilly) htis would also but a buffer between Byzantium, and the arabic states currentlly hostile to it- meaning that to get to you over seas, they would have to go through us as well- so what is your opinion on the deal?
 
To Venice
From Byzantine Empire

We agree to the terms above, or in your agreement, as well as an alliance.
 
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