StKNES5: A New Lease on NES

OOC: tommy_toon, yes, that's why, and yes, they were.
israelite, sorry, those roads, like darwin's, will be edited onto the map.

IC:
From Portugal
To Israel:
Any treaty we sign must include:
a) it encompasses all nations involved in the war - currently, that would be Portugal, Israel, and Eire
b) return of Sardinia and the Balearics to Portugal - both had been for years Portuguese holdings which were aggressively invaded after your false-friendship
c) reparation payment of at least 3 spending points from Israel to Portugal

None of the islands you invaded belong to you - they never have, and they never will.
The losses we incurred by your treachery also must be repaid.
And finally, we do not abandon people who are our friends in the greatest time of need. It was quite ironic that Eire, our enemy from just before, has sided with us, and, though we were bitter at first about the territorial concessions and reparations, we know now that those were very small prices to pay for the new friendship that has risen from the ashes of that war. Just as they came to our aid literally years after ending a war with us, we will now not exclude them from a treaty ending the current war.


From Austria
To Rome:
Not sufficient. We lost much more than two measly spending points. We demand at least 4 spending points compensation, even though that is far below the amount that we lost because of your barbarism. Be happy that we only want that much, because if we would add up all the losses you inflicted - immediate/short-term and the long-term - then you would have to be paying us for years to come to make up for it.


From Illinois
To New Illinois:
Some of us were actually willing to stay behind and try to weather the storm and eventually improve our homeland. You, on the other hand, ran as soon as things got tough. Hardly a quality that a leader who cares about all his people would possess.
Because of your cowardice, we were forced to forever give up the lands west of the Mississippi, and were forced to give up our gains in Michigan or else we'd be invaded ourselves. Had you stayed, we could've maintained our lands in the west and the east.
 
To Portugal
From Israel
It has to the attention of King Solomon that his offer has been refused. We will meat the following demands: 1) The Balearics and Sardinia will be returned 2) You will recieve reperations of 3 fortunes (spending points), but not until the next epoch (turn) seeing as we are unable to afford it as of now 3) We will sign the proposed deal between our peoples under two conditions, that the agreement becomes two-way and that Eire is not involved, we will be offering them different terms of peace. L'Shalom!

To Eire
From Israel
The King and Knesset will present you with the following terms of peace. We understand that these terms will not be accepted by your nation unless peace is signed between ourselves and Portugal. We will sign a perpetual non-agression pact, subservant to any currently existing pacts (the Dutante and Jerusalem pacts would take presidence). Seeing as you have lost very little in this war, we do not believe that reperations are required. We seek peace now for we realize that you are right, we have rushed into this war without considering the Law, even the wisest of us wil sometimes block out the words that he needs to hear. L'Shalom!

To Rome
From Israel
Though you seem antagonistic towards us, we will help you with the reperations demanded by the Austrians if you stand by the agreement you made when you signed the Jerusalem Defense Pact. L'Yerushalayim!

EDIT: Kamilian- The Aztecs are spreading way to easily. It is my opinions that you need more New World countries, like the Anasazi for instance.
 
From Eire
To Israel
So long as Portgual agrees, we are more than willing to agree to this for we do not desire reparations

To Portugal
We feel this an agreeable proposal and hope you accept Israels peace treaty.

OOC: Um, I don't think my stats were updated because this is what they were last time

Nation: Eire
Player: tommy_toon
Capital: Dublin
Government: Imperial Democracy
Population: 51,200
Economy: Wealthier 5-3/4/6
Education: Smart +0/8
Age: Iron Age
Army: 2,000 Spearmen, 790 Archers, 1,500 Swordsmen, 800 Horsemen, 1,000 Horse-Archers Iron Age (6,090)
Maximum (PEACE): 5,120
Navy: 200 Galleys, 1,273 Triremes Iron Age (1,473)
Maximum (PEACE): 2,560
UU:
Religion: Celtic Polytheism
Culture: Strong
Confidence: Respecting
Projects: Inter-Isle Project (population +3,000, economy +1)
Eire Heritage (+2 Culture) (4/4)

That's almost exactly the same as the ones you said were updated. My economy should have increase and my project finished. Also, Israelite's correct about the Aztec thing. They are spreading extremely fast, at the very least they should be slowed down due to lack of settlers to fill their new lands.
 
lurker's comment: The apaches kamilian! Don't forget them!!! In America i mean of course :D
 
I think the Anasazi are a little more qualified than the Apache, especially considering that the Apache came form the Anasazi. Sure, the Apachi fought the Americans longer than any other Native Americans, but the Anasazi built cities to rival Mesoamerica.
 
Israelite9191 said:
I think the Anasazi are a little more qualified than the Apache, especially considering that the Apache came form the Anasazi. Sure, the Apachi fought the Americans longer than any other Native Americans, but the Anasazi built cities to rival Mesoamerica.

lurker's comment: Considering that we don't know what happened to the Anasazi and the fact that if they had cities they would be simply overruned by the Aztecs, Apaches are the best. The guerille fighting works against all sedentary large Empires/Nations. Building cities will only work against them. :(
 
Israelite9191 said:
But the Anasazi are a more significant civilization. Start them off as more wandering natives, like they probably did, and then settle them.

lurker's comment: But they will be overrunned easily by the Aztecs! I don't really care whether or not they can build a civilization, but whether or not they can resisit the Aztecs. :p Yes, i'm a stickler for realism, it's quite well known in the forums. So much i butt into neses i have no reason to for...
 
From Portugal
To Israel:
Since Eire is fine with making a separate bilateral agreement, very well. Peace signed:
1. All Israelite-occupied territory is returned to Portugal.
2. In one turn, Israel pays 3 economy points to Portugal as compensation for property and lives lost.
3. Non-Aggression Pact (I assume you also wanted to include this in the treaty, Israelite. If not, feel free to tell me about it).
4. Eire and Israel sign a separate treaty.

OOC:
tommy_toon, you're right - your economy should have been increased. I thought I did it but I didn't. My apologies. Your project was completed last turn. This update the stats should have erased the (4/4). It has been fixed.
As for the Aztecs, I will get to it on my own time. I realize that you all may be frustrated that they're apparently unstoppable while you're in war after war, but just let me do it on my own time, please.
Thank you.
 
Orders:
1. Continue expanding rode network.
2. Continue missionizing, in all countries, INCLUDING ARAB COUNTRIES!
3. Put new system of representation for colonial provinces into effect
4. Expand in Africa.
5. Found Qadub in Socotra and Male in the Maldives
6. Have 1/8 of galleys expand along East African coast towards Malagasy as fast as possible.
7. Establish contact with southern African peoples and Malagasy.
8. Have 1/8 of galleys head out to Azores Islands and establish Angra do Heroismo while colonizing all of the isles.
9. Spend 2 to establish trade route if accepted, if not invest two in horse archers (250X2=300).
10. Invest 3 in galleys (200X3=600) and 2 (150X2=300) in tiremes.
11. Emphasize missionary work in Dalmatia and Georgia.
12. Finish project (remember, that is also supposed to make Jerusalem the Jewish Holy City)
*Secret*
1. Have 3/4 of galleys and all tiremes with all spare troops, including all cavalry and Palestinians, go to Afridis coast
2. Use same strategy as was used in Dubruvnik, since they have had no knowledge of my previous wars, they should be totally susceptable to the same strategy. ( tommy toon- if your reading this you can't complain since you don't know of the Afridis or of anything east of myself)
3. Move from the coastal settlement along the coast as fast as possible. Do not allow any messengers to get ahead of my troops.
4. Once the coast is secured, make a beeline along the former Persian border to but the Afridis in half.
5. Move west across Iran to crush the Afridis between myself and Persia.
6. Sweep up the rest of the Afridis controled lands.
7. KILL AS FEW CIVILIANS AS POSSIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!
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To Fez
From Israel
The King and Knesset propose a trade route be established that would run between Tel-Aviv and Tangier via Dubruvnik. L'Chaim!

To Tripoli
From Israel
King Solomon has carried out your request, will you now allow the Levites into your lands? L'Yisroel!
 
Israelite9191 said:
( tommy toon- if your reading this you can't complain since you don't know of the Afridis or of anything east of myself)
Wahahaha, I wasn't even thinking that. But I do have something in mind for a response to it ;)
 
To: Austria
From: Rome
I said take it or leave it. You should be happy that we are willing to pay at all.
 
To Rome
From Israel
King Solomon requests that you do not become so angry at the Austrians. We have already stated that we will help pay Austria their reperations upon the next turn. Stay your sword-arm for now, and do nto raise it until the right time has come. L'Yerushalayim!

tommy toon- But you cant resoind to the war! You do not know that they, or anyone east of me except possibly Azerbaijan for that matter, even exists! So, unless you plan to send us help ;) you can't repond.
 
From Austria
To Rome:
We should be happy? You insolent oafs! If you hadn't decided to act like nothing more than barbarians upon your withdrawal, then we wouldn't be demanding anything from you! You brought this reparations demand upon yourselves! We expect immediate payment of 4 economic points. Otherwise, we will not attempt to take any action against Austrians who raid across your border for retribution.
 
To Aztec Empire
From Caribbean Empire
would you accept a gift of 50 galleys to show my peoples gratidude that you accept trade with us

ooc add that gift of 50 galleys to my orders please (or perhaps i should just resend them) that is if he accepts
 
TO: Caribbean Empire
FROM: Aztec Empire

The Emperor accepts your offer of 50 Galleys, and extends his welcome to the Caribbean Empire into the affairs of the Gulf. The Emperor would also like to reassure the Carribean Empire that the trade waters between Quetzalmoc and Havana shall be patrolled by Aztec Triremes to ensure no disruption of trade.

--Kamilian: Given the logistics and geography for this gift, these Galleys should be placed in my Gulf Fleet. Thanks!
 
To Illinois from New Illinois

That is not correct, our leader could have held the lands to both the west and the east had he not diplomaticised with the other leaders who promised to wage war unless he conceded land. Being a blabbermouth our dear departed leader had to open the trap and emissaries were sent with the result that Ontario and the Iroquise prepared for war. Our past leader was not the kind who would have been willing to settle for peace on either front and Illinois would have been crushed.

Thankfully someone stayed behind and now the total strength of the Illinois peoples is greater then ever, we have aquired many lands to the south and we grieve the loss of your lands to the northwest and northeast.

All we wish to do is to strengthen your position to the north. We advise that you start a project like most advanced nations. If you wish to trade with us we will always be open for a proposal. Is there ANYTHING we can do to help? You are the rich one among us but your numbers are few, let us supply you with soldiers who wish to go back to the old lands. We wish for nothing but to aid our brothers to ensure your survival. You are our blood. How hard is it to understand? You are our blood. We will always care. You are our blood.

New Illinois does not need the help of Old Illinois, we will accept any token of love between our peoples in the present and future but this hardly matter. We wish to help Illinois in any way possible because you are our family, nothing will be expected in return.
You are our blood.

Is there anything we can send? Perhaps a few advisors so you can decide on a good project.
 
Kamilian said:
From Austria
To Rome:
We should be happy? You insolent oafs! If you hadn't decided to act like nothing more than barbarians upon your withdrawal, then we wouldn't be demanding anything from you! You brought this reparations demand upon yourselves! We expect immediate payment of 4 economic points. Otherwise, we will not attempt to take any action against Austrians who raid across your border for retribution.
Oh good, that means more slaves.
 
General Sarajaz gazed fondly over the massive Malaysian fleet sailing around the occupied island of Okinawa. Soon, it would be upgraded to the quality of the Nihonese fleet, or even greater. The general had a gut feeling that Nihon's end was near, even though many others believed his optimism to be misplaced.

Shanghai would soon be attacking Korea from overland, while the rest of the Allied forces would direct their strength against Nihon proper.

The citizenry of Okinawa were calming, a great deal of time spent outside of Nihonese power had dulled their patriotism and belief in the might of the island empire. Even better, the Balazis were now converting the locals (and even some of the allied soldiers) into firm believers in Balism. A great Balist temple was planned for construction as well.

All that remained for the next attack on Nihon was approval from the King and Council. It would not be long in coming...
 
To Rome and Austria
From Israel
The wise King Solomon proposes the following solution to your dispute. Within this epoch (turn) rome will give two forunes (economy points) to Austria. The next turn Rome will give another two fortunes to Austria. This way, Rome is able to spread its payment over a period of time and Austria gets the reperations. Though the reperations will not all come at once, Austria still gets the reperations it deserves. Likewise, though Rome is spending more than it would really like, it is able to spread this over a period of time thus reducing the impact on Rome to a minimum. L'Shalom!
 
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