stNNES7: Worlds and Empires

[Xen]

To Ravenna
From France

If Ravenna was a true ally, she would have aided against the real threat, the Portuguese, who were, for most of the war, winning. Ravennans only attacked when you felt that you had a chance to gain something. And the fact that you now come in, at the end of the war, and think you have earned lands in the west is appaling.

1) Ravenna did not wish to be put into the position of having to fight a two front war; such a war could be won, but it is better to conctrate fully on one front, achieve your goals and then move on to a second target.

2)Is france saying they woudl currentlly prefer being mere slaves of the old German kingdom, and former Portugese empire? We think not; Ravenna is the ally of both France, and Baleria, but BOTH your nations never thought to indulge Ravenna into what you were planning (while Ravenna suggested several stratigies to you) That Ravenna took the intiative and do what it did whith little central planning from the alliance is a plus; this was a Franco/Baleric war; it was your perogitive to give Ravenna objectives, as we were aiding you; you did no such thing, and so Ravenna, in its wish to aide you, chose it own goals.

3)Assuming you had attempted to contact Ravenna about the "end game" you woudl know that the North african territory currentlly under Ravennic control was wished by Ravenna to be a Numidian possesion; but, obviouslly, Numida is rather indesposed at the moment; that Ravenna got this territory is a surprise, as our fleets orders were only to guard the Pillers of Hercules from a Portugese attack to reach our homelands.

4)when did we have somthign to gain when we aided you agianst Germany? Nothing; we attempted to keep the peace and when it was shattered we went, we saw, we conqoured, and we created a new nation that can stand on its own two feat; Lombardia often sides with Ravenna because our goals are oft the same, but if think ravenna is merelly parading, seekign only to gain possesions for itself, you are mistaken; we do seek to gain a good position for ourselves and for our allies.

5)Ravenna wishes peace in the west, amoung its allies; why must you spread word of hate and create tension between your nation and Ravenna, where none need be?

 

[Jason The King]

1) Ravenna did not wish to be put into the position of having to fight a two front war; such a war could be won, but it is better to conctrate fully on one front, achieve your goals and then move on to a second target.

Ravenna was strong enough to give some kind of help against Portugal. And you cannot use this excuse, the real excuse was because you and Portugal made an agreement behind your allies backs not to attack each other.

2)Is france saying they woudl currentlly prefer being mere slaves of the old German kingdom, and former Portugese empire? We think not; Ravenna is the ally of both France, and Baleria, but BOTH your nations never thought to indulge Ravenna into what you were planning (while Ravenna suggested several stratigies to you) That Ravenna took the intiative and do what it did whith little central planning from the alliance is a plus; this was a Franco/Baleric war; it was your perogitive to give Ravenna objectives, as we were aiding you; you did no such thing, and so Ravenna, in its wish to aide you, chose it own goals.

You alerted us that you did not want to fight Portugal, and the fact that you made a deal with them, we felt it not smart to tell you about our plans. We, at least France, changed our minds in asking you for help when we heard about the dealings you had made with Portugal, and that is why we did not send any notice of what you were to do.

3)Assuming you had attempted to contact Ravenna about the "end game" you woudl know that the North african territory currentlly under Ravennic control was wished by Ravenna to be a Numidian possesion; but, obviouslly, Numida is rather indesposed at the moment; that Ravenna got this territory is a surprise, as our fleets orders were only to guard the Pillers of Hercules from a Portugese attack to reach our homelands.

The we expect it to be turned over to Baleria, a well earend prize for, as you claim, our ally.

4)when did we have somthign to gain when we aided you agianst Germany? Nothing; we attempted to keep the peace and when it was shattered we went, we saw, we conqoured, and we created a new nation that can stand on its own two feat; Lombardia often sides with Ravenna because our goals are oft the same, but if think ravenna is merelly parading, seekign only to gain possesions for itself, you are mistaken; we do seek to gain a good position for ourselves and for our allies.

Give it up. Lombardia is your puppet. That is what you gained. You claim to be helping ur allies, then make good on it, and give the African territory to Baleria, should they wish it.

5)Ravenna wishes peace in the west, amoung its allies; why must you spread word of hate and create tension between your nation and Ravenna, where none need be?

Because we don't want you to expect we will stand by while Ravenna gains from the suffering of millions of Balaeric and French lives.

 

[Xen]

Ravenna was strong enough to give some kind of help against Portugal. And you cannot use this excuse, the real excuse was because you and Portugal made an agreement behind your allies backs not to attack each other.

not true- we told you straight up what was going on, and our reasons for it- you made no objection, dont attempt to do so now.

You alerted us that you did not want to fight Portugal, and the fact that you made a deal with them, we felt it not smart to tell you about our plans. We, at least France, changed our minds in asking you for help when we heard about the dealings you had made with Portugal, and that is why we did not send any notice of what you were to do.

you shoudl have said somthing; alliances are based on openness; if you had a problem you shoudl have told Ravenna; your silence only lets assumptions grow.

The we expect it to be turned over to Baleria, a well earend prize for, as you claim, our ally.

let Baleria speak for itself; as France seems to be undergoing faulty judgment in its rule at the moment.

Give it up. Lombardia is your puppet. That is what you gained. You claim to be helping ur allies, then make good on it, and give the African territory to Baleria, should they wish it.

hardley- why dont you go ask North King then; he'll set you VERY straigh ton the matter; Ravenna has not ever, nor will begin to use puppet nations.

(OOC: and franklly, I;m rather offended at the remak)

Because we don't want you to expect we will stand by while Ravenna gains from the suffering of millions of Balaeric and French lives.

How are we gaining from it, how are we profiting? because Ravenna took the intiive to spread civlization to eastern europe? because Ravenna chose to focus on trade instead of war and then -get this- have the gual, the AUDACTIY to try to help its allies out in a war?! oh no, we cant have an actually loyal ally can we?

Get off your high rock, France, Ravenna dosent know what your problem is, but get over it; we're your allies, your friends; stop making enemies where thier are none.

 

[Jason The King]

Ravenna was never a true ally in the war. We know that you only did anythign when it helped Ravenna, and we know that Lombardia is a puppet state, we see through your deciets (and we really do not know what a "North King" is). You only helped out when you had somethign to gain with limited casualties to yourself. We fought the entire war with Portugal, why should we not fully gain from our spilled blood? Why should Baleria not have the lands of former Portugal, whom she fought hard for? Why should Ravenna come in at the very end and take a good third of the accomplishments? Answer me this.

 

[Xen]

Ravenna was never a true ally in the war. We know that you only did anythign when it helped Ravenna,

Well, tell that to the French citizens we saved when we went to war with Germany

and we know that Lombardia is a puppet state, we see through your deciets (and we really do not know what a "North King" is).

OOC; cut the ****, you know what i mean when say ask north king about Lombardia's status

You only helped out when you had somethign to gain with limited casualties to yourself. We fought the entire war with Portugal, why should we not fully gain from our spilled blood? Why should Baleria not have the lands of former Portugal, whom she fought hard for? Why should Ravenna come in at the very end and take a good third of the accomplishments? Answer me this.

1)SO France si going to cry because Ravenna didnt suffer like it did, because Ravenna was invaded, because Ravenna's commanders preparred a better strategy for it? France will have to grow up then; Ravenna is your ally, and we are trying t convince you fo the fact, but if this continues, then ravenna can very easilly simpley go neutral to France, and it affairs, and let it fend for itself in the future

2)France and Baleria ARE gainign from spilled blood; Baleria sits at the opportunity to claim most of Hispania as a great "reward" for its hard eanred victory, and France is able to finally, complete its northern border, and soldify the borders of Europe in the west, on the mianland at least- by Contrast Ravenna needs the gate fo Gibralet; we have colonies in the atlantic to consider; th emiddel east is in flames, and in effort to keep the economy of the west going at all a spare route ot the far east is needed by circumnavigating afvrica, incase th emiddle east dosnt calm down; a mere look at the map of the trade routes will reval most of them in the med sea- trade routes thar Ravenna and Baleria, and to a lesser extent france, need for trade- France and Blaeria have thier spoils; but Ravenna, a nation that aided you, and is STILL trying to aide you cannot protect its own possesions in the Atlantic?

 

[Jason The King]

The difference is, Baleria fought for lands it gained. Ravenna did not. That is all we are saying. Out of mere consideration, Ravenna should offer the lands to Baleria.

And whether it is Baleria or Ravenna holding the straights of Gibraltar and Tangiers, Ravenna ships will always be allowed through. If Ravenna does not think so, then it is quite suspicious why they don't.

We wish to remain on friendly terms with Ravenna, but do not think you can actually threaten us by withdrawing agreements of alliance. We are not dangling from Ravenna by a rope, to which a simple cut by Ravenna would send us plummeting. France is self suffecient, and can protect ourselves. We do not want to remain simple neutral, but it would trouble us the same as it would trouble you.

 

[Xen]

Ravenna isnt concerned about about not being allowed through the straight; we didnt even make it a priority to capture it, but it woudl be alie to think that Ravenna wasnt going to try to internationalize the straight anyway, as the control of the straight in one nations hands is liable to atteact jeaolsy from non-allies.

However, if Baleria voices that it wishes control of the straight, ravenna will give possesion of tangiers.

As for threateining you; we arnt; but if you dont wiosh to reamin of good terms (which it appears you do, but did not act that way before hand) The Ravenna is hardley goping to force you to; but the tenats of alliance; speaking your mind to an ally when they do somthing, even if you dont agree with it, need to be upheald, otherwise it is a not a true allaince, and that is what Ravenna is trying to forge, and yet at the same time, balence the difficulties of its own nation as well.

Ravenna offers a trade a trade route, and full renewal of the pact of which we signed so long ago (that is the pact that if one nation was invaded, the other woudl come to its aide), and, while Ravenna think its better for the pillars ot be divided into two nations control,. that if Baleria dose demand Tangiers, that Ravenna will relinquish control of it, if only to actually prove to you that we are, in fact the allies we have always claimed to be.

 

[Jason The King]

Very well, all rests upon the desires of King Emu.

 

[Insane_Panda]

AWAKEN TO DARKNESS
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BOOK II ​

Damot was growing old - for thousands of years it had sat upon its lofty throne at the gates of the Indian ocean, confident and rich. Its harbors stretched accross the horizon, awaiting the thousands of ships which would come, ships which fueled the massive trade empire of Sabae. The Merchants, with their neverending desire for more and more profit, stood at the top of this empire, ruling ever since the great diaspora. And for awhile they ruled well, crushing the hordes of the Baal-Maluk and obliterating those who would oppose their trade policies overseas. But as time passed by the council grew old, old and forgetful. Old and decadent. These men were not the leaders of yesteryear. There was no spirit left within the halls of their great Mercantile council, no desire for anything greater than gold. As a result, the people they ruled became much like them. To them, gods, spirits, and dietes were the idols of foriegners, a weakness which could be exploited and profited from. The children of Akbar were a mere shadow of their former self, children who had forgotten their great exile, children who had forgotten the sacrifice their father had made for them along the shores of Araby. Darkness had settled on the shoulders of these ungrateful people.

[2]​

Bahir stirred, abruptly woken in the middle of sleep by an dream. An odd dream which he found that he could not recall, even seconds after he had awoken. He shrugged it off, and began to change into his work robes. He was a trades official of the small port of Aden, a lowly civil service commisioner. He lit a fire and brought a cauldron of water to boil as he prepared his coffee. He sipped at the strong brew for some time, immersing himself in the flavors to prepare himself for another arduous day of work and accounting. Soon thereafter he left his small mudbrick shack along the outskirts of Aden. The sky was not yet lit, and already merchants and peddlers had come out, ready to sell their goods and wares. Bahir moved fluidly among the crowds which plagued every city, eventually finding himself along the banks of the harbor. He stood there for awhile, admiring the beauty of the sea and pausing for a rest, but accidently walked and slipped upon a small stone. In shock he collapsed into the water. Instantly he fell unconcious.

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He awoke, not in the depths of the ocean, but on the peak of a sand dune, baking the desert heat. His clothes were still wet and crusty with salt water and his mind began to enter a state of confusion. The last thing he recalled was slipping into the water along the banks of the Adenese harbor, but now he found himself in the middle of some unknown desert. His mind began to frantically search for answers but could find none at all. Inexplicably, his body was weak and his throat was parched. He collapsed back into the desert sand. He heard something. A voice. First it came as an unintelligible whisper, but soon the whisper transcended into something infinetly more, a booming, yet soft, even melodious, and all consuming voice which had to be heard to be understood.

"Awaken, my child, thy time has come"

Bahir tried to speak, but the words would not rise from his lungs.

"Listen, not speak, in the presence of your lord." The voice demanded.

"The time has come for a new awakening. Sabae has grown old, decadent, faithless, and forgetfull. The souls of men have wandered, and no longer do they devote themselves fully to the glory that is god and his universal kingdom, the kingdom of heaven."

"Ages ago Akbar made his sacrifice for your people, transcending his earthly needs and giving himself to heavens so that his children could leave the shores of Sabae in their great diaspora. In his last hours he did not allow himself to the enemy, instead his soul was given to heavens and his body absorbed into the stars. Such a soul has laid dormant for centuries, waiting for a time his people would need him once more. That time has come."

"You, Bahir, hold the soul of Akbar deep within your bosom. Release it into your body, release yourself to the glory that is god, the glory that is heaven, the glory that is Allah! Go back from whence you came and bring the message of your lord to the people of Sabae. The darkness must end. You, Akbar, servant of the lord Allah, the merciful, the compassionate and the all knowing, must bring light to the world."

For what seemed like hours Bahir, no, Akbar, sat deep in the sand, immersed in pain, joy, sorrow, despair, and love all at the same time. All of Human tragedy, feeling, and knowledge filled his veins as he sat there. Thus, the prophet was born.

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Suddenly he awoke back on the docks of the harbor, an old man sitting by his side, staring with his eyes open in amazement.

"What is your name, child?" The old man whispered hoarsely.

"Akbar."

And so it was. Akbar, Messenger of God, Prophet to mankind, began his journey to bring light to the dark masses of the world.

Faith was oncemore borne into Sabae.

 

[Insane_Panda]

Note: The religion is not islam. I just use allah because it means god.

 

[Kal'thzar]

Allah means "The god"

I like the use of the word "The" there

 

[Oruc]

OOC: where did all that come from?

To Ravenna, France
From Balearic Islands

we would like Tangiers turned over to our control, it neednt be the entire colony perhaps a mirror of Gibraltar in size, of course Ravennan (?) and French ships would be allowed through basically exactly the same as the situation in Carthage.

To Iberia

general Asmodeus leader of the Balearic Colonies of Iberian agrees to your proposal, although certain islands may not be willing to join this union

 

[Xen]

OOC: where did all that come from?

I really, REALLY wish I knew too

To Ravenna, France
From Balearic Islands

we would like Tangiers turned over to our control, it neednt be the entire colony perhaps a mirror of Gibraltar in size, of course Ravennan (?) and French ships would be allowed through basically exactly the same as the situation in Carthage.

sure

 

[Toteone]

To Ravenna from Pannonia

We fear the hordes of the Cimmerian warlord bolstered by the slavic hordes! Come to the aid of your sister nation.

(ooc: we can only sacrifice one economy level at a time right?)
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To the Cimmerian Warlord to the North

Pannonia is a land of brave men who will fight to the end for their homes. Should you invade you will also incur the wrath of Ravenna, our eternal allies.
There are weaker targets to the north and to the east, but should you elect to come south you will face fierce resistance. Our homes are sacred.

 

[Xen]

Ravenna is one step ahead of you, and your elder brother has begun orginizing the lands all around to come to your aide! ( apage or so ago, we began trying to orginize thge surround nations into a grand alliance, before france went nutz for a while, and tried to accuse it's ally of the great western war of soem sort of treason)

to: Tauri, Lombardia, Marcomannia, Visigothia, Macedonia
From: Ravenna

we wish to know which of you will lend assitence to combat the horde spilling out of the north; we have had our parley, but soon it comes tiem to make a choice; you know Ravenna, and you know we will stick by you in time of need; well, a fellow nation is in need, and if it falls, all the nations of eastern europe may, in thie rown turn, be routed, and perhaps conqored; we must orginize ourselves now to stem this threat.

 

[North King]

From: Cimmeria
To: Pannonia, Ravenna, and any who support them

You can fight honorably, bravely, stoutly all you like. You can come to your allies aid all you want. You can do what you will. You may fight nobly, valourously, and show the world that you are a people who will never give up...

But no matter how you fight, you die. Surrender.


To: Ravenna

From: Tauri

No.

From: Lombardia

We will aid.

From: Marcomannia

Not now.

From: Visigothia

We already are.

From: Macedonia

Certainly.

 

[das]

From: Syria
To: Minoa

Tough luck...

 

[Zydiax]

To: Norway
From: Lapponia

Although we are able to crush your pathetic army with ease, I have a proposal that would be slightly more benificial to us.

-The whole northern half of your territory will be considered ours.
-We will recieve total military control over your army.
-You will agree to a permanent right of passage treaty.

I'm afraid this is your only option to avoid total destruction.

 

[North King]

To: Norway
From: Lapponia

Although we are able to crush your pathetic army with ease, I have a proposal that would be slightly more benificial to us.

-The whole northern half of your territory will be considered ours.
-We will recieve total military control over your army.
-You will agree to a permanent right of passage treaty.

I'm afraid this is your only option to avoid total destruction.

Never.










OOC: Stats done

 

[Zydiax]

To: Norway
From: Lapponia

Ha! Farewell, then.