Stupid things you've done with bonus if courage was involved...

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Super duper triple bonus round if you were getting back at the man.

Here's mine, grenade training in the army unscripted moment.

In basic training or advanced infantry training which came after, the drill sergeant was n o t your friend. His purpose was to correct you if you were wrong, insult you, run you until you finished or fell, intimidate you, march you until your feet oozed goo, and wake you up before the sun even rolled over and farted to do it all again. That's not the worst bit, they a l m o s t never relented, and they loved their jobs.

So, I didn't like em.

To be under their command was a daily trial, and they either broke your spirit or you just let the deeply buried animosity fester. I was the latter.

So one day we got up really early, marched off for food, ate in an ordered fashion with yelling, all scripted, got back into line and marched off to the grenade range.

Twenty miles orderly marching later the summer Louisiana sun was up and exacting its own pound of flesh. We had arrived and split into squads to go through the course. There are real grenades and we got to toss a couple of those in a very orderly fashion. Then there are practice grenades which are round like a baseball, all steel, and have a hole in the bottom for the explosion to exit without causing shrapnel flying everywhere killing and maiming. That and I suspect the charge might have been less though by no means small. Everything else was the same. You hold in your throwing hand, pull the pin with the other hand, release the little metal piece and now its active. You count 3 and toss where its scripted that you will toss. It goes BOOM! and you move on to the next position. Toss a bunch of practice grenades and everyone gets to clean up. Walk along and pick up the thrown practice grenades and toss em in containers. Bring the containers over to the place where they are sorted and placed in boxes. Its mostly placing because there are only 2 types, those that were exploded and those that weren't. There were people who went through all sorts of internal drama with a grenade in their hand and would just toss the thing to get rid of it, and forget to pull the pin. Not many, but as few.

The bthing about the sorting process was that it was not scripted which was unusual. Everyone was casually sitting around on the ground and guys would dump boxes of used grenades in front and we would sort and put. The drill sergeants were leaning on a fence having a chat about God knows what. Kicking dogs or something fun like that. Clubbing seals maybe, I just don't know.

That's when I found an unexploded practice grenade.

I shuffled it off under my pant leg and tried to look innocent and invisible. Continued to put in boxes the exploded ones. Took a leisurely look around, drill sergeants were okay, a few people were walking about, really an odd unscripted moment, an opportunity to express ones freedom and living spirit, a big metal dumpster close to the group.

So I leisurely got up and picked up the practice grenade in one calm fluid motion, strolled over to the dumpster, pulled the pin and just let it drop on top of some soft garbage. I then calmly strolled back and sat down.

Now you take a count of 3 before you throw. That's 1001, 1002, 1003. Then you throw so that's 1004. Then it flies, 1005, bounces, 1006, and goes BOOM. 1007. Something like that anyway. Seven seconds is a lot of time.

So the metal dumpster amplified the sound. If everyone were not having such a quiet moment it would not have been such a shock. For the drill sergeants the explosion of that grenade was a wake up call, an affront, a reverberating blast that showed their dereliction of duty. On a day to day basis these were not happy people, but I didn;t know just how unhappy they could get.

Of course every second from the explosion on became rather scripted, regimented if you will. The drill sergeants were running around yelling and everyone had to get in formation. They went man to man yelling, trying to find out who had dared to do something...different...individualistic...unmilitary. I certainly wasn't going to tell them, then they would have stopped being unhappy with everyone and focused all that unhappyness on me.

So we had to run the 20 miles back to barracks and after that things were bad. Push ups, yelling, middle of the night formations, all sort of stuff. It was okay. I knew I'd got em.
 
So.

Let me get this right. You allowed your colleagues to take the collective punishment rather than admit ownership of the deed?

And that's called "giving it to the man"?

Very strange, imo.

Is it an American thing, then?
 
Absolutely.
 
Climbed a mountain on a whim, high and half drunk with a friend. Started out trying to hunt squirrels or whatever we could find, but there weren't any to be found so we kept hiking. Mountain didn't look that steep from the bottom, and it also looked like there was a glacier coming down the "other side". As we kept going it just got steeper, to the point where it was easier to go up, than it would be to turn around and go down. Along the way we'd look up and think things were going to even out, but after each little bump was a steeper bump we couldn't see from below. We had to ditch our guns about a quarter of the way up. From that point we were hugging the rock crawling on our fingertips and toes. Finally we reached the top, where we thought we could just go down the other side of the mountain, but instead there were more mountains behind it. My friend had a mental breakdown on top of the mountain and it took me about 30 minutes just talking him out of suicide. Then we walked around the top looking for a less steep way down while hoping a helicopter or plane would see us. We found a waterfall that had some brush and scraggly trees growing around it. We used the waterfall like a shoot, sliding down in the water and using the trees/brush to slow our fall.

We did survive, but that's probably the closest I've been to death. I'm still surprised we didn't fall off the mountain to our deaths. Lesson learned: mountains are very deceiving from the bottom.

Hitch-hiked alone in Panama once, not that great of a story, but one guy I met was pretty cool. An expat from Cuba, told me about a cool bar in Panama City where all the Cubans hung out. He had an interesting life story, but I don't remember any of it.
 
Great story. Good thing you didn't bring the guns. Did you retrieve them?
 
Absolutely.

I don't get it. Such a thing would be (or would have been - for all I know things have changed out of all reckoning) social suicide for a member of my cohort.

And as far as I know, the "man" is all too happy to punish everyone collectively. While you seem to consider it some kind of victory.
 
Speaking of sticking it to the man: I spilled a can of coke on an KC-135 JROTC orientation flight. That's a major maintenance screw up for a military plane. I ignored it and hoped no one would notice until I was long gone. Once landed, the boom operator discovered the mess and demanded to know who was responsible. Somehow they narrowed down few suspects that included me.

I never confessed. Who ultimately paid for it? I dunno but the man got stuck a again.
 
Its all very technical Borachio. Part is the fact that nobody liked the drill sergeants, and everyone enjoyed running back to the barracks while not looking like they enjoyed it. There were many smiles and some backslapping after that, but I never said anything to anyone for quite a few decades, even after I got out.
 
Let's see, one time me and a bunch of friends went camping on a cliff overlooking one of the great lakes. This was back in high school, so we were all stupid and did stupid things. It was not a government sanctioned campsite, just a plot of land behind some farms and a forest that had a great spot with a great view (Take that, the man!). So once it got dark, after some "social activities", a couple of us got the brilliant idea that we should be "closer to nature" and go on a nature hike. So off 3 or 4 of us went, and after 10-20 minutes of hiking one of us saw a clay head sitting on a ledge just off to the right. The rest of us are like "yeah okay, whatever", but we look and sure enough... This clay head was closer towards the water where we were, and basically the closer you got to the head, the steeper it got.. and then there was a dark drop to the beach and rocks below. So we start slowly descending towards the clay head to investigate, and mind you we have flashlights, are properly dressed, decent boots on, etc. just aren't in a proper state of mind. Not drunk, we weren't stumbling around, that wasn't a problem. But anyway, then I slip and start sliding down the stupid cliff. I try to break my fall with my legs and.. end up on the platform where the clay head was. The clay head and the platform break my fall and the clay head goes flying off into the darkness below... and I stop and am safe and do not die.

So I'm standing there on the platform, and my friends are all freaked out, I'm .. stunned.. and.. did we really see a clay head? We were pretty sure we saw a clay sphere with ears, eyes, a nose, etc. But it was dark and .. you know. So.. yeah, we went back to the camp site, told our tale, and I don't remember if anybody believed us or whatever, but I would guess there were some questions, to say the least.

Next morning we found a trail leading down to the beach and started walking down the beach, looking for that clay head. Just to see what's up. And we found it alright... That part of the cliff had clay heads on ledges everywhere. Well, maybe not everywhere, but they were all over the cliff, on various ledges here and there, at various heights, etc. And each clay head seemed slightly unique, but they were all pretty much.. well, clay heads. With all the important head parts, like ears and eyes.

So it was probably some kids screwing around, but I almost died, I think if that platform didn't break my fall I would have hit my head on one of the many large rocks below, some of them sharp. It was a decent height too, so I think I definitely think I dodged a bullet there. And at first I was like "The clay head saved my life!" But then.. If that stupid head wasn't there I would have probably never slipped.. or.. maybe.. well.. who knows.

In the end it was totally my fault for putting myself in that situation. Maybe a bit of courage involved, but not really too much.

Another stupid thing I remember from my college days is being drunk on new years eve, running up to an empty cab at a red light, sticking my head into the passenger's side window, and yelling something incoherent. Poor guy slammed his foot on the gas, wheels started screetching, there was a bit of smoke, his cab ran the red light in style, and he got the F out of there.

Looking back, I don't blame him one bit. Pretty stupid move on my part, he could have crashed his car and injured himself or worse.

Maybe you should have asked "What is the stupidest thing you have done while sober?", though. Everyone has "stupid stuff I've done when I wasn't sober" stories.. right? And they're basically just a PSA to not drink too much or whatever. So they can get old, unless they're unique in some way, like with maybe clay heads.

If we're doing drunk stories though, I have a good one. In terms of its stupidity.

In college one day me and my roommate were at a "cheap drinks" and "free pool while you buy booze" bar for the first time, so we ended up drinking a lot more than our usual permitted daily allotment of alcohol. I think we went over by quite a bit, we were amateurs. Anyway, a while before last call we wanted to get out and catch a cab, before everybody else gets the same idea and we have to wait a half an hour for the next cab.. So we exit the bar and we're walking down the for the most party devoid of people street, and I'm in a pretty good mood. I'm jumping around, and for some reason I thought it would be a great idea to sort of jump a bit to the left, and a bit to the right, and maybe against this wall here a bit, and that one there, and.. next thing you know I jump through a friggin glass door and end up in a store's foyer. The entire door has shattered and I'm sitting there covered in glass shards, with my eyes wide open, unsure what just happened. My roommate is standing there over me, and.. "Let's get out of here!" Grabs my hand, and we catch a cab right away and get the hell out of there. In the cab I see blood on my shirt.. I panic.. check everything.. Turns out my friggin pinky had a tiny cut at the very tip. It was nothing but it bled more than you'd expect, initially.

So yeah, don't jump around too much when you're drunk.
 
I don't get it. Such a thing would be (or would have been - for all I know things have changed out of all reckoning) social suicide for a member of my cohort.

And as far as I know, the "man" is all too happy to punish everyone collectively. While you seem to consider it some kind of victory.

I suspect it was worth it, from the point of view of his fellow SuTs, to see the expression on their DS' faces.

As far as military stupidity making a good story... I believe I've already told on here the story of that fateful day on a German training area when my platoon 'caught' a wild boar in a pit, only to realise that the exercise was blanks only, and to decide that the best way to kill said boar was to pour petrol into the pit and light it... cue one surprisingly fast and understandably angry boar bolting into the trees, and several confused and irate officers.
 
Great stories guys! :lol: Clay heads and flaming pigs! Doesn't get any better than that.
 
Its all very technical Borachio. Part is the fact that nobody liked the drill sergeants, and everyone enjoyed running back to the barracks while not looking like they enjoyed it. There were many smiles and some backslapping after that, but I never said anything to anyone for quite a few decades, even after I got out.

I suspect it was worth it, from the point of view of his fellow SuTs, to see the expression on their DS' faces.

Well. OK. I guess that must be it.

Though I'm rather suspicious of systems which "try to break a person's spirit" in the first place.
 
I don't consider anything I've done to be stupid, as I have survived it all.

I ran with the bulls in Mexico, which has provided me with a great story for going on three decades now. For those who remember Wide World of Sports, they covered the event and when it aired the next weekend the five of us who had gone were in our barracks TV room with at least twenty more guys, and the most entertaining moment of my life to that point was when someone said "Holy crap, look at that idiot!" and one of the guys who had gone with me said "That's Tim."

I broke my femur riding an ATC alone and had to crawl two miles once. That actually makes me retract the "not stupid since I survived" claim. That was outright stupid. On that same ATC I also hit a parked train.

I rode a boogie board down the face of a twenty foot swell, once. I also went out on that boogie board into a crosschopped swell that led to a near head on collision that broke my arm.

A snorkeling buddy and I initiated many of our friends into what we called the great sand challenge, a free dive to about thirty five feet to grab a handful of sand. The interesting thing there is that you compress so much from the pressure that you actually lose buoyancy. When we made the turn the first time, expecting to be assisted on the swim back up, and found that we were actually negative buoyant it was a very exciting moment. The surface looked VERY far away.

I jumped out of a hot air balloon from three hundred feet on a hundred and thirty foot bungee cord. Cracking along at sixty miles an hour towards ground that is only a couple hundred feet away is exciting.

I operated a prototype plant naval nuclear reactor through an earthquake.

I sailed the Pacific in a submarine that was older than most of the crew, including myself.

I insulted a Navy SEAL once, directly to his face. That was unintentional though, at least initially.

There's probably a few others, but I'd say those are the highlights.
 
I operated a prototype plant naval nuclear reactor through an earthquake.

I sailed the Pacific in a submarine that was older than most of the crew, including myself.

These sound less like "stupid things I've done" and more like "cool stories from my life."

Maybe a companion thread is needed?
 
These sound less like "stupid things I've done" and more like "cool stories from my life."

Maybe a companion thread is needed?

Well, on the submarine part there is a factor of "I volunteered for what?" that doesn't exactly carry the scent of genius at work. The recruiter hooked me with this great training program opportunity, but during the close he says "Just so you know, most people who get this training.... <garbled talk into hand>"

"What was that?" says I.

"Ummm...submarines. Most of these billets are on submarines."

"Oh! Sounds cool!"

One would think that I'd have figured it out when he looked at me with this shocked expression and practically broke his fingers whipping out a pen.
 
Didn't stick it to the man at all with this one....


A few years ago we had a major snow storm. About 2 feet of snow overnight. I was sick as a dog. Acute bronchitis the doc later called it. My lungs were so clogged up that I couldn't sleep. If I tried to lie down, I'd start to choke. So I spent the whole night up in a chair trying, and failing, to sleep upright. Anyways, I had a deal with my landlord to help him with things like snow clearing in exchange for cheap rent. So the next day, out I am with shovel and snowblower. For like 10 hours, with heavy wind gusts blowing the snow into my face and freezing temperatures and the truck couldn't get there to help me because the snow was heavier than the truck.

I didn't get to the doctor to get some antibiotics until the next day.
 
Well. OK. I guess that must be it.

Though I'm rather suspicious of systems which "try to break a person's spirit" in the first place.

We all did sign on the bottom line a contract that we knew would change our lives. In doing so for whatever reasons on our part we were agreeing to meet the needs of our nation as expressed by the military. The military decided they didn't like who we were, a bunch of spoiled brat morons with no sticking power in many cases, some inner city kids escaping hell in others, and a load of farmers and kids from rural America just out of high school. In order to take all these and get them to do what needs to be done does take some adjustments. I for one was ready to be adjusted. I have several times moved from where I was to where I went at the time simply because where I was wasn't it. It takes a while to realize its better to create a situation where there is more influence over where one ends up. That is a life lesson learned along the way that they don''t teach in school. Getting from letting someone else make the call, such as the US army, to being in a position where I could, took work and money and decades of acquired wisdom.

At the time of this deed in my life I was nowhere on this path. I was getting back at the folks for not adjusting me in a way I approved of and its stupid because I had signed on the dotted line. Taking their path showed me the meaning of the words 'work' and 'patience' which are key to the movin on down the paths I chose for myself later. The words 'steady application' confronted the reality of how long life really is. The combination can, if opportunity happens for you, put you in a position where better decisions become available.

This image is what I built with my opportunity...add in the kids we're adopting and I must say everything has worked out okay.





...and when this is considered I guess the how it happened becomes less important than the why.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqULEE7eY8M

Tims, you have lived an interesting life!

Kaitzilla, no thanks on that job. :)

Nexlev, I wonder how much stuff has accumulated on the sides of mountains. Maybe the mountains are getting bigger.

Cutlass, yeah good job. Life is full of such difficult duties. All you have to decide is what to do with the duties given to you when the chips are down. You did well.
 
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