alerum68
Priest of Hiroshima
Alright, but you gotta tell me the diameter of pluto's orbit.
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SpikeIt
Deity
Go ahead and play Alerum. If you want to finish it, that's fine with me too. But if you only want to take 10 (or whatever suits you until you tire of it) that's fine as well. I'll play it again. But we WILL finish this up. It must end.
Oh, the diameter of Pluto's orbit is a bit hard to determine since it has an elliptical orbit. Using the mean distance from sun, the dia is 78.88 AU.
Oh, the diameter of Pluto's orbit is a bit hard to determine since it has an elliptical orbit. Using the mean distance from sun, the dia is 78.88 AU.
alerum68
Priest of Hiroshima
I kept finding figures for both orbits, but no luck on the mean distance, and they values were to irregular to just "average out" expecially since it's inside the orbit of Mercury sometimes.
Thanks.
I'll take it, but fair warning: The turn log will not be normal style, will be more of a write up instead of a blow by blow. We're looking at, at least 30 turns. Easy to play, hard to record. I got it, and will start tonight...
Thanks.I'll take it, but fair warning: The turn log will not be normal style, will be more of a write up instead of a blow by blow. We're looking at, at least 30 turns. Easy to play, hard to record. I got it, and will start tonight...
SpikeIt
Deity
Yup. That Pluto information sure will come in handy I'm sure at some point. Inside the orbit of Uranus BTW. If it was Mercury, scientists here would probably be trying to figure out when it would slam into Earth on the way... Surely Bruce Willis would save the day though.
Alright, enough geeking out. Sure thing. Log however you like. I agree, turn style logs get tedious at best. Enjoy stomping on the Vikes (hmmm, role reversal from RaceWars 1?).
Alright, enough geeking out. Sure thing. Log however you like. I agree, turn style logs get tedious at best. Enjoy stomping on the Vikes (hmmm, role reversal from RaceWars 1?).
alerum68
Priest of Hiroshima
Race Wars 1, and about 5 solo games.
alerum68
Priest of Hiroshima
I can't play this guys. I'm sorry, but I deleted 1.15 from my HD. You're going to have to continue without me.
Balastulin
Lord of the Sea
Oh, the irony.
Bad luck mate, so who's up next?
Bad luck mate, so who's up next?
SpikeIt
Deity
Well, I'm not counting on Oblivion for this, so I'll take it. I'm looking forward to wiping out 1.15 myself once I finish this SG up. I'll be taking these turns slooowly to appease the wife (she's quite civved out!). For some reason she'd rather I install shelves, paint rooms, install a new fence and maybe get around to getting us a new furnace... I keep explaining about the menacing Vikings, but she's not hearing it.
Anyhow, I'll pick away at it this week.
Anyhow, I'll pick away at it this week.
SpikeIt
Deity
Hmmm. Took a quick look at the save last night. I'm not really liking our forces quite yet to take on the Vikings. They'll be hitting us with lousy offensive troops, but on D we'll be taking large losses taking on rifles. And our cav counts are about 36 total, a lot of those defending some of our Spanish and Dutch conquests. Carthage doesn't have an MPP with anyone. I'm thinking to still plant my beachhead on the Viking mainland, but to send some troops to clear out some of Carthage as well. They are so hopelessly behind, they'll pretty much roll over. If we can hit our %'s without having to hit the Viking size 13 city, we'll finish this up a lot faster. Our mighty navy should be able to keep the vikes at bay in the mean time, not to mention our eternal ally England. I'll be producing a lot more Hwacha's too. If I'm going to hit those viking cities, I'm going to need to bombard them down first. Land and sea bombardment!
With rails across our newly conquered Viking lands, and galleons/transports in both channels, we should be able to move fresh troops in to attack in no more than 3 turns. It should be a pretty steady flow.
With rails across our newly conquered Viking lands, and galleons/transports in both channels, we should be able to move fresh troops in to attack in no more than 3 turns. It should be a pretty steady flow.
alerum68
Priest of Hiroshima
Don't know how you feel about the chaining ship exploit, but would be a very good and viable option to speed up this game.
SpikeIt
Deity
alerum68 said:
Nah. Doesn't feel right to me. But 2 to 3 turns to move troops over doesn't bother me much.
Balastulin
Lord of the Sea
Agree. Chaining ships no good, but we don't need it because we can go from a harbour to another harbour in one turn (with transports... UPGRADE to the rescue) then rail over to the other harbour on Eastern Island, pop into another transport and hey diddly, we're on Scandanavia's doorstep!
SpikeIt
Deity
Yup. Exactly what I was thinking. As I mentioned, I'm going to pick away at this slooowly. I did start turn 1 though. 
I should be able to play a decent amount this weekend though.
Anyway, we have combustion. A harbor is being rushed in Sariwon - I'm not a fan of using the harbor in the ex-Viking town. Already had one city depose during the IBT (lost a rifle, but the city was promptly captured back, of course), and I would hate to have one flip full of troops and ships. But in about 3 or 4 turns, we should have a nice contingent of 20-30 mix troops (Hwachas, cavs, rifles) plus a settler to sit on the nice Viking hill just across the straight. It should be a thing of beauty. Oh, and those Carthaginians... yup, I'm thinking they are just going to get in the way...
I should be able to play a decent amount this weekend though. Anyway, we have combustion. A harbor is being rushed in Sariwon - I'm not a fan of using the harbor in the ex-Viking town. Already had one city depose during the IBT (lost a rifle, but the city was promptly captured back, of course), and I would hate to have one flip full of troops and ships. But in about 3 or 4 turns, we should have a nice contingent of 20-30 mix troops (Hwachas, cavs, rifles) plus a settler to sit on the nice Viking hill just across the straight. It should be a thing of beauty. Oh, and those Carthaginians... yup, I'm thinking they are just going to get in the way...
SpikeIt
Deity
Okay, I finally finished my turns... Here we go.
NotesPercentages at 49 and 62 for %'s.
We have no settlers. Need them for Viking Stronghold, ie launching point.
The plan: Cavs and settler to start beachhead. Hwachas. We should be able to move troops quickly, especially with rails in place.
Plan to settle stronghold about 5 turns in. Thinking about taking out Carthage in the mean time as they should fall quickly.
[0] 1570AD
Organize troops to get ready for Vikes. Foolishly move a cav from Hareid into Carthage to investigate. Pull up right next to a Beserk. Ooops.
IBT
Our cav falls to the Beserk. Two more appear.
We learn Combustion. Wang Kon wants Battleships! To learn that we must research Electricty sir. Wang Kon begrudgingly agrees.
Stavenger deposed. We lose a rifle there. Those scoundrels!
[1] 1575AD
clads bombard Stavenger. Our vet cav attacks and loses. Elite cavs go leader fishing. We win taking Stavenger back, but no leader.
Move workers off useless tasks to railroad our conquests.
Upgrade a couple galleons to transports. We cannot upgrade Frigates.
IBT
Carthage demands we move our troops off their hill. We move automatically exposing our troops to Beserks who obviously have a ROP with Carthage. We lose 1 cav. Carthage is really getting irritating...
[2] 1580AD
Clear a couple of beserks.
Upgrade several galleons and a couple ironclads.
A privateer takes out a Portuguese galleon and converts them...
IBT
Watch English sink a Viking galleon...
[3] 1585AD
England has Communism. We could trade for it and revolt, but we're strong enough to not need it at this time. Let's finish this puppy.
Time for the great landing on hill across from Sariwon...
19 cavs, 15 Hwachas, 7 rifles, 1 settler. We'll have to withstand a few rounds of attacks.
IBT
Our stack takes no hits...
[4] 1590AD
We found Namp'o on the Viking doorstep.
Our privateers take out a Portuguese galleon. Another sinks at the hand of a Port. carrack.
Destroyer attacks Viking galleon.
We ready the seige on Aarhus for next turn.
We rush a few libraries. We're at 50% and 62% for now.
We ready some troops to take on Carthage.
IBT
The Vikings attack our stack with 1 beserk. Um, that's one dead beserk.
Some beserks stream down from Carthage to help out.
[5] 1595AD
Naval bombardment at Aarhus. Looks like 3 rifles. Send in the Hwachas... they clear out two rifles. Now to leader fish... Aarhus is ours. We suffer 0 losses. There is a rax and harbor here.
We rush a rax in Namp'o. Sell harbor and rax in Aarhus and abandon. We'll settle our own cities here.
Oh yeah. We declare on Carthage and land some Cavs and rifles outside of Rusicade.
IBT
Redo our alliance with the Brits, give them ironclads and we get 64gpt.
Vikings send Beserks north away from their main cities through Carthage. I guess they are going for the weaker stack even though they are in trouble at home.
[6] 1600AD
Rusicade falls. Not one improvement in the joint. Oea falls, we sink the ships inside. We get a nice harbor.
We clear a couple of Beserks and a Carthage longbow away from Hareid.
We're at 51 and 64%.
We naval bombard the city of Carthage down (Viking city). Send some cavs in... take out a couple damaged rifles and a couple damaged Beserks. Carthage is ours. We'll hold on for a turn (I don't believe it will flip for 1), but we'll abandon/replace next turn.
Renew English export deal, dyes and wines for 37gpt + 13 gold. A bit more than we were getting.
IBT
Hah. The Dutch signed an alliance with England vs the Vikings.
Liz wants to renew our ROP. Okay. The wines from Carthage set off We Love the King day all over.
[7] 1605AD
Our cavs take the Carthage city of Sabratha. We also take the Viking city of Vitoria just off our main shores.
We approach Stockholm to find it defended by a damaged reg rifle. Aah, forget about the Hwachas. Cavs go in, we lose our first cav in quite a while. Two damaged rifles are taken out and Stockholm is ours! The English bombardment is helping out a bit.
Attack on Leptis Magna and we finally get a leader, Yi Song-gye. Can we say Cav Army? One more attack and Leptis Magna is ours! We form an army in Hareid to load up next turn.
Decide to keep Carthage for whatever reason.
IBT
England and the Vikings strike peace. Stinkin' Brits. Portugal and Viking sign Embargo against us.
[8] 1610AD
Now at 55% and 66%.
We clear a scary Cathaginian longbow. Our army marches in and takes Hippo. Wang Kan is pleased the harbor is still in tact.
In the north a cav attack a Numidian at Cadiz and loses! His death is avenged and Cadiz is ours.
The Heroic Epic is started in Taejon due in 4.
Cavs move in to bombarded Leptis Minor and clear out the Carthage scoundrels. Only Utica is left of their main cities.
With full strength rifles in Copenhagen still left after bombardment, we pull back for the moment until we can get Hwachas in.
We settle Cheju toward Copenhagen to help troop movement.
IBT
Amusingly the last Dutch Frigate attacks our privateer and sinks itself. And we enslave it! Hah.
1 Beserk attacks our cav stack.
[9] 1615AD
Seige of Utica: Army attacks, takes out two Numidians. Elite Cav takes out another and another leader, Chu-Mong, is born. Chu-Mong heads to Leptis Minor to become another army. Our new army continues the attack on Utica. Utica is ours and Carthage is down to two cities in the tundra up north, Cirta and Hadrumetum.
We bombard Copenhagen again which is now size 8 (dropping 1 per turn - used to be size 13). We attack next turn as we have some Hwachas in range. Our armys should head south to help out.
More cavs shuttled over.
Percentages: 58% and 69%
IBT
Beserks attack our stack, taking out two rifles, but only 3 attacked. A few expansions, resistance ending in Carthage towns... Looking good.
Border expansion took the English horse colony. Nice.
[10] 1620AD
Percentages: 59% and 69% after expansions.
Attack on Carthage city of Cirta: Hah, only one Numidian and Cirta is ours. Carthage is OCC now on same island as Dutch. Loading small group of troops to take on Hadrumetum and hopefully Dutch city as well.
Aargh, there are still workers auto-clearing jungles on the mainland. We don't need those jungles cleared. Stop as soon as can and send them overseas to rail.
Worker stacks railroad to move armies quickly.
Naval bombardment of Copenhagen commences... and succeeds reasonably well. Hwachas next, redline all rifles AND kill two of them.
As a side diversion, I send a Detroyer to bombard a Carthage Caravel. A frigate misses and our newly aquired Dutch Privateer... captures and enslaves it. Aah, now I know why those English Man-O-Wars are still patrolling. They are pirate hunting! I dock the privateers in Valencia.
Okay, let's proceed with the attack on Copenhagen. Send in the cavalry... stinking redlined rifle wins and promotes. Oooh, too bad. The promotion is cancelled as the rifle falls. Only beserks left... er, beserk, singular. Take that back, Copenhagen is ours! And hey, it contains Shakespears Theatre. Contains Sistines too. Yeah, I don't think we'll be keeping this. Move in my settler. Sell rax. If only you could sell wonders. We abandon Copenhagen, and found SpikeIt's Pub on the very spot. It starts on a rax to rush next turn.
Plan is to next take out Trondheim and then the Viking tundra towns.
Leptis Magna gets a library rush.
Elite cav takes out a beserk.
Moving settler toward forest just south of our army there for another town in Viking lands. Will fill in a spot and provide quicker troop transport.
Left transport off of Cirta to load up next turn. I rested the troops this turn to get back a couple HPs.
Afterthoughts:This one is about over. It may not last the 10 turns. In case the Viking cities don't give us our percentages, move excess transports (we have many) onto other side of Scandinavia for an attack at Portugal or the Brits to finish this up if needed. Us the stacks of 6 workers each in Scandinavia to railroad down to save us movement for our rifles and Hwachas as needed. A number of cities are due for culture expansion. Continue to rush libraries when it makes sense.
Oh yeah, try and get the save before we win. When this saga is over, this needs to find its way into my HOF.
One last pretty picture:
NotesPercentages at 49 and 62 for %'s.
We have no settlers. Need them for Viking Stronghold, ie launching point.
The plan: Cavs and settler to start beachhead. Hwachas. We should be able to move troops quickly, especially with rails in place.
Plan to settle stronghold about 5 turns in. Thinking about taking out Carthage in the mean time as they should fall quickly.
[0] 1570AD
Organize troops to get ready for Vikes. Foolishly move a cav from Hareid into Carthage to investigate. Pull up right next to a Beserk. Ooops.
IBT
Our cav falls to the Beserk. Two more appear.
We learn Combustion. Wang Kon wants Battleships! To learn that we must research Electricty sir. Wang Kon begrudgingly agrees.
Stavenger deposed. We lose a rifle there. Those scoundrels!
[1] 1575AD
clads bombard Stavenger. Our vet cav attacks and loses. Elite cavs go leader fishing. We win taking Stavenger back, but no leader.
Move workers off useless tasks to railroad our conquests.
Upgrade a couple galleons to transports. We cannot upgrade Frigates.
IBT
Carthage demands we move our troops off their hill. We move automatically exposing our troops to Beserks who obviously have a ROP with Carthage. We lose 1 cav. Carthage is really getting irritating...
[2] 1580AD
Clear a couple of beserks.
Upgrade several galleons and a couple ironclads.
A privateer takes out a Portuguese galleon and converts them...
IBT
Watch English sink a Viking galleon...
[3] 1585AD
England has Communism. We could trade for it and revolt, but we're strong enough to not need it at this time. Let's finish this puppy.
Time for the great landing on hill across from Sariwon...
19 cavs, 15 Hwachas, 7 rifles, 1 settler. We'll have to withstand a few rounds of attacks.
IBT
Our stack takes no hits...
[4] 1590AD
We found Namp'o on the Viking doorstep.
Our privateers take out a Portuguese galleon. Another sinks at the hand of a Port. carrack.
Destroyer attacks Viking galleon.
We ready the seige on Aarhus for next turn.
We rush a few libraries. We're at 50% and 62% for now.
We ready some troops to take on Carthage.
IBT
The Vikings attack our stack with 1 beserk. Um, that's one dead beserk.
Some beserks stream down from Carthage to help out.
[5] 1595AD
Naval bombardment at Aarhus. Looks like 3 rifles. Send in the Hwachas... they clear out two rifles. Now to leader fish... Aarhus is ours. We suffer 0 losses. There is a rax and harbor here.
We rush a rax in Namp'o. Sell harbor and rax in Aarhus and abandon. We'll settle our own cities here.
Oh yeah. We declare on Carthage and land some Cavs and rifles outside of Rusicade.
IBT
Redo our alliance with the Brits, give them ironclads and we get 64gpt.
Vikings send Beserks north away from their main cities through Carthage. I guess they are going for the weaker stack even though they are in trouble at home.
[6] 1600AD
Rusicade falls. Not one improvement in the joint. Oea falls, we sink the ships inside. We get a nice harbor.
We clear a couple of Beserks and a Carthage longbow away from Hareid.
We're at 51 and 64%.
We naval bombard the city of Carthage down (Viking city). Send some cavs in... take out a couple damaged rifles and a couple damaged Beserks. Carthage is ours. We'll hold on for a turn (I don't believe it will flip for 1), but we'll abandon/replace next turn.
Renew English export deal, dyes and wines for 37gpt + 13 gold. A bit more than we were getting.
IBT
Hah. The Dutch signed an alliance with England vs the Vikings.
Liz wants to renew our ROP. Okay. The wines from Carthage set off We Love the King day all over.
[7] 1605AD
Our cavs take the Carthage city of Sabratha. We also take the Viking city of Vitoria just off our main shores.
We approach Stockholm to find it defended by a damaged reg rifle. Aah, forget about the Hwachas. Cavs go in, we lose our first cav in quite a while. Two damaged rifles are taken out and Stockholm is ours! The English bombardment is helping out a bit.
Attack on Leptis Magna and we finally get a leader, Yi Song-gye. Can we say Cav Army? One more attack and Leptis Magna is ours! We form an army in Hareid to load up next turn.
Decide to keep Carthage for whatever reason.
IBT
England and the Vikings strike peace. Stinkin' Brits. Portugal and Viking sign Embargo against us.
[8] 1610AD
Now at 55% and 66%.
We clear a scary Cathaginian longbow. Our army marches in and takes Hippo. Wang Kan is pleased the harbor is still in tact.
In the north a cav attack a Numidian at Cadiz and loses! His death is avenged and Cadiz is ours.
The Heroic Epic is started in Taejon due in 4.
Cavs move in to bombarded Leptis Minor and clear out the Carthage scoundrels. Only Utica is left of their main cities.
With full strength rifles in Copenhagen still left after bombardment, we pull back for the moment until we can get Hwachas in.
We settle Cheju toward Copenhagen to help troop movement.
IBT
Amusingly the last Dutch Frigate attacks our privateer and sinks itself. And we enslave it! Hah.
1 Beserk attacks our cav stack.
[9] 1615AD
Seige of Utica: Army attacks, takes out two Numidians. Elite Cav takes out another and another leader, Chu-Mong, is born. Chu-Mong heads to Leptis Minor to become another army. Our new army continues the attack on Utica. Utica is ours and Carthage is down to two cities in the tundra up north, Cirta and Hadrumetum.
We bombard Copenhagen again which is now size 8 (dropping 1 per turn - used to be size 13). We attack next turn as we have some Hwachas in range. Our armys should head south to help out.
More cavs shuttled over.
Percentages: 58% and 69%
IBT
Beserks attack our stack, taking out two rifles, but only 3 attacked. A few expansions, resistance ending in Carthage towns... Looking good.
Border expansion took the English horse colony. Nice.
[10] 1620AD
Percentages: 59% and 69% after expansions.
Attack on Carthage city of Cirta: Hah, only one Numidian and Cirta is ours. Carthage is OCC now on same island as Dutch. Loading small group of troops to take on Hadrumetum and hopefully Dutch city as well.
Aargh, there are still workers auto-clearing jungles on the mainland. We don't need those jungles cleared. Stop as soon as can and send them overseas to rail.
Worker stacks railroad to move armies quickly.
Naval bombardment of Copenhagen commences... and succeeds reasonably well. Hwachas next, redline all rifles AND kill two of them.
As a side diversion, I send a Detroyer to bombard a Carthage Caravel. A frigate misses and our newly aquired Dutch Privateer... captures and enslaves it.
Aah, now I know why those English Man-O-Wars are still patrolling. They are pirate hunting! I dock the privateers in Valencia.Okay, let's proceed with the attack on Copenhagen. Send in the cavalry... stinking redlined rifle wins and promotes. Oooh, too bad. The promotion is cancelled as the rifle falls. Only beserks left... er, beserk, singular. Take that back, Copenhagen is ours! And hey, it contains Shakespears Theatre. Contains Sistines too. Yeah, I don't think we'll be keeping this. Move in my settler. Sell rax. If only you could sell wonders. We abandon Copenhagen, and found SpikeIt's Pub on the very spot. It starts on a rax to rush next turn.
Plan is to next take out Trondheim and then the Viking tundra towns.
Leptis Magna gets a library rush.
Elite cav takes out a beserk.
Moving settler toward forest just south of our army there for another town in Viking lands. Will fill in a spot and provide quicker troop transport.
Left transport off of Cirta to load up next turn. I rested the troops this turn to get back a couple HPs.
Afterthoughts:This one is about over. It may not last the 10 turns. In case the Viking cities don't give us our percentages, move excess transports (we have many) onto other side of Scandinavia for an attack at Portugal or the Brits to finish this up if needed. Us the stacks of 6 workers each in Scandinavia to railroad down to save us movement for our rifles and Hwachas as needed. A number of cities are due for culture expansion. Continue to rush libraries when it makes sense.
Oh yeah, try and get the save before we win. When this saga is over, this needs to find its way into my HOF.
One last pretty picture:
SpikeIt
Deity
Hmm. I think you need this.
alerum68
Priest of Hiroshima
Very nice... very nice. May want to rush some temples in newly taken cities, just to get some more land... population is a sure thing at this point.
Balastulin
Lord of the Sea
Hey SpikeIt, I know you just had your turns and that, but I think you should finish this baby off. You've been the one putting in all the long hours while I was moving to Korea (I still can't believe the irony there!) and everybody was dropping out. So you should have the pleasure of the last few turns.
I'd quite like to see this in the HoF too though!
Bala
I'd quite like to see this in the HoF too though!
Bala
SpikeIt
Deity
We've been rushing libraries. Cheap due to being Korea. I probably rushed at least 10 or so during my turns.alerum68 said:Very nice... very nice. May want to rush some temples in newly taken cities, just to get some more land... population is a sure thing at this point.
SpikeIt
Deity
Balastulin said:
Sure, if you want, but hey, you stuck around even with the move so you are more than welcome to bring it to its rightful conclusion. I would think with a victory, your neighbors would come to celebrate the rightful place of Korea as the dominant power in the world. It might even ease the Olympic gold medal snubbing in gymnastics.
Even so, if you'd rather, I'll finish it up. It'll probably be another week or so for the results though. Busy, busy at home with a sick child and wife now. Some virus I'm hoping to avoid. So if you post a got it in the next day or so, then its all yours. If not, I'll probably start finishing this up.
Balastulin
Lord of the Sea
Understood. Got a bit of work on at the mo, so if I's gots its, I's gots its buts ifs I's aints, I's aints.
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