Succession LK 14 - Russia, anybody plays.
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meldor
Deity
I have it......
meldor
Deity
Preturn - Adjust profuctin in many cities. We have lot o' luxes and no one buying them. With a bunch of Muskets begging to be upgraded we go to the trade screen.
Aztecs get Incense for Wolrd Map, 40g and 9gpt
Persia gets Furs for World Map, 4g and 12 gpt
Persia gets Incense for 13gpt
Persia gets Dyes for 12gpt
India gets Furs for 60g
Upgrade all Muskets to riflemen.
Science upped to bring Steam in one trun early
1370 AD - Steam arrives Industry next Science back down to 50% to build treasury back up.
1385 AD - Our golden age ends
1395 AD - Newton's completed in Moscow.
1400 AD - Smith's completed in Smolensk. Industry complete start towrds Sanitation. Take last Chineese city close by and sign peace treaty.
1420 AD - Bismark gets Incense for Printing Press, World Map, 40g and 3gpt. Persia gets gems for World Map 50g and 15gpt. Wall Street is started in St Petersburg.
In between the highlights there were a lot of improvements built. Every worker that cam free is now working on connecting all of our cities by rail. Several cities are now working on factories. I had thought of building up to go after the Germans, but when I saw all the help the cities needed I decided to hold off until the Rails are finished and we get hospitals for big cities. All in all it was very calm building turns.
Aztecs get Incense for Wolrd Map, 40g and 9gpt
Persia gets Furs for World Map, 4g and 12 gpt
Persia gets Incense for 13gpt
Persia gets Dyes for 12gpt
India gets Furs for 60g
Upgrade all Muskets to riflemen.
Science upped to bring Steam in one trun early
1370 AD - Steam arrives Industry next Science back down to 50% to build treasury back up.
1385 AD - Our golden age ends
1395 AD - Newton's completed in Moscow.
1400 AD - Smith's completed in Smolensk. Industry complete start towrds Sanitation. Take last Chineese city close by and sign peace treaty.
1420 AD - Bismark gets Incense for Printing Press, World Map, 40g and 3gpt. Persia gets gems for World Map 50g and 15gpt. Wall Street is started in St Petersburg.
In between the highlights there were a lot of improvements built. Every worker that cam free is now working on connecting all of our cities by rail. Several cities are now working on factories. I had thought of building up to go after the Germans, but when I saw all the help the cities needed I decided to hold off until the Rails are finished and we get hospitals for big cities. All in all it was very calm building turns.
meldor
Deity
Forgot to mention that during next preturn, check all of the trades deals as all those started at my preturn are about to expire.
Readylander
Warlord
I've got the game and will play some turns.
Readylander
Warlord
Pre-turn:
After consulting all the advisors I decide:
1. Need to get some luxury imports to increase happiness and hopefully drop the luxury tax rate from 10% to zero.
2. Can drop the science rate by 10% and still get Medicine in 3 turns, this saves 50 gpt.
3. Universal Sufferage is available and nobody else is building it yet, need to make a plan to get it. Lots of competition for Magellan's. Based on the map and our current situation I am going to put a higher priority on US than Magellan's.
4. Our military needs some building before we can stage any wars but our infrastructure will receive my first priority. I want to get some factories built, then some hospitals, then the military.
I start with reviewing all trade agreements as meldor suggested:
Persia is currently getting 3 luxuries for 37 gpt. Change this to 3 luxuries for spices, wm, 18gpt and 2 gold.
Aztecs are currently getting incense for 9 gpt. Change this to incense and 15 gpt for ivory.
I drop the luxury tax rate from 10% to zero saving 59 gpt and most of our cities will be WLT?D, don't need any more luxury imports.
Furs sold to India for 12 gpt and 40 gold. India is only willing to offer 8 gpt and 5 gold for incense so I decide to wait a couple turns to see if they will increase their offer.
We are now making 113 gpt.
Hastings production changed from courthouse (corruption is low) to marketplace to increase revenue and happiness.
Canterbury changed from colleseum (it is currently stuck at size 4) to factory in 17 turns. Will have to get some workers clearing the jungle here, it has some good production potential.
Smolensk changed from cathedral to factory in 10 turns.
Tatung changed from rifleman in 66 turns to temple in 46 turns.
Xinjian changed from courthouse to harbor. It is stuck at size 4 with no growth. After the harbor, then aqueduct, and then courthouse or marketplace.
Chengdu is building a temple, may try to rush this.
Heidelburg changed from colosseum to rifleman.
Newcastle changed from courthouse (corruption is low) to marketplace to increase revenue and happiness.
Sevsatopol changed from university to harbor as we are stuck at size 7.
Tblisi changed from univerisity to aqueduct as we are stuck at size 6, then go for harbor.
Yakutsk changed from swordsman to temple, another front line city with no culture.
Beijing changed from univerisity to marketplace.
York changed from bank to factory.
Canton changed from university to factory.
After all the production reviews I sort all the cities by shield production. Moscow is tops and the factory will be done in 13 turns. Rushing it will cost 824 gold but I decide it is worth it to get a jump start on Universal Sufferage. We will be back up over 1000 gold in the treasury before Wall Street is finished in 3 turns.
1450AD
Moscow completes factory and starts on Universal Sufferage, 30 turns, but growth and railroads will decrease this.
Dropped science rate another 10% without delaying discovery of medicine.
1455AD
Macao finishes library, starts on harbor
Universal Sufferage is already down to just 23 turns away.
1460AD
Finish Medicine, change to Sanitation, after bumping science rate to 70% it is just 5 turns away.
Wall Street is completed in St Petersburg, start factory.
Sell Incense to India for Democracy, wm and 80 gold.
Raise science rate another 10% to reduce discovery of sanitation to 4 turns and we are breaking even.
1465AD
London finishes rifleman, starts on university.
1470AD
Nanking finishes library, starts on courthouse.
Warwick finishes aqueduct, starts on harbor.
1475AD
Persia would like a MPP and ROP, even up. I decline, not ready to get into a war that they start just yet. They are cautious so I give them 25 gold instead and now they are polite.
Germany and Aztecs sign a MPP.
Minsk finishes marketplace, starts on courthouse, may switch this to hospital next turn when sanitation is completed.
Drop science rate by 10% for one turn, no effect on finishing sanitation next turn.
Rush factory in Kiev. We need some cities to produce military. I don't like the looks of Germany and Aztecs
1480AD
Sanitation completed. Decide to go towards Electronics, Hoover Dam would be real nice.
Beijing completes marketplace, starts on hospital
Kiev finishes factory, starts on hospital
Heidelburg finishes rifleman, starts another.
1485AD
Zinjian finishes harbor, starts on aqueduct.
Smolensk finishes factory, starts on university.
Tblisi finishes aqueduct, starts on harbor.
1490AD
York finishes factory, starts on hospital
Minsk switched to hospital
Sevastopol finishes harbor, starts on university.
1495AD
France wants a MPP and ROP. Turn her down as well.
Canton finishes factory, starts on hospital.
1500AD
Warwick finishes harbor, starts on worker. We need more improvements and pollution will be starting any time now.
1505AD
Science rate dropped 10%, electricity still due in 2 turns.
1510AD
London finishes university, starts on factory.
Kiev finishes hospital, starts on rifleman. Our military is finally going to grow.
Newcastle finishes marketplace, starts on worker.
Tsingtao finishes marketplace, starts on aqueduct.
1515AD
Electricity is completed, start on Scientific Method. Science rate increased to 70%, we will finish in 5 turns, we are making 45 gpt.
Smolensk finishes university, starts on cathedral.
Odessa finishes factory, starts on cossack.
Tientsin finishes aqueduct, starts on harbor.
Yakutsk finishes temple, starts on library.
Warwick finishes worker, starts on factory.
1520AD
Our palace is expanded.
Newcastle completes worker, starts on university.
1525AD
Magellan's is completed in Nottingham, start factory.
1530AD
China wants to trade world maps, I tell him to take a hike.
Canterbury finishes factory, starts on rifleman.
No cascade to Universal Sufferage, we are only 7 turns away.
Drop science rate to 50% for the next two turns to maximize cash.
Rush temple in Chengdu at cost of 16 gold to avoid revolt in 2 turns due to growth.
1535AD
York completes hospital, starts on rifleman.
Chengdu completes temple, starts on marketplace. This will need to be rushed before too long.
1540AD
Scientific Method discovered, Atomic Theory started. Raised science rate to 70%, will complete in 9 turns.
Canton finishes hospital, starts university.
Liverpool completes aqueduct, starts marketplace.
Kiev switched to Theory of Evolution, 19 turns away.
1545AD
Odessa completes cossack, starts worker.
It looks like the Aztecs are about to attack. They have troops down in the area of Warwick, Nottingham and Canterbury. Mostly jag warriors, a couple longbowmen are the worst threat. There are cossacks fortified in many of our cities and there are some swordsman that can be used for attack as well. Almost all of the cities are protected by at least one rifleman and three cities are producing more. I don't think they will be much of a threat. The worst part is that they have a MPP with Germany who I have seen has some cavalry.
Most of the trade agreements are up for renegotiation. You will lose one of the luxury imports if war breaks out with the Aztecs.
I think we still need more workers, there are lots of improvements that need to be made. I tried to get all the cities hooked up by rails but didn't quite make it. I tried to look for opportunities to buy workers from other civs but didn't find any available.
Universal Sufferage is 4 turns away in Moscow. Theory of Evolution is 18 turns in Kiev, if Hoover Dam becomes available before then I would switch Kiev to Hoover and build Theory of Evolution somewhere else.
I turned on animations so I could see what the Aztecs were up to, turn them off if you don't want them.
Good luck to the next leader.
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After consulting all the advisors I decide:
1. Need to get some luxury imports to increase happiness and hopefully drop the luxury tax rate from 10% to zero.
2. Can drop the science rate by 10% and still get Medicine in 3 turns, this saves 50 gpt.
3. Universal Sufferage is available and nobody else is building it yet, need to make a plan to get it. Lots of competition for Magellan's. Based on the map and our current situation I am going to put a higher priority on US than Magellan's.
4. Our military needs some building before we can stage any wars but our infrastructure will receive my first priority. I want to get some factories built, then some hospitals, then the military.
I start with reviewing all trade agreements as meldor suggested:
Persia is currently getting 3 luxuries for 37 gpt. Change this to 3 luxuries for spices, wm, 18gpt and 2 gold.
Aztecs are currently getting incense for 9 gpt. Change this to incense and 15 gpt for ivory.
I drop the luxury tax rate from 10% to zero saving 59 gpt and most of our cities will be WLT?D, don't need any more luxury imports.
Furs sold to India for 12 gpt and 40 gold. India is only willing to offer 8 gpt and 5 gold for incense so I decide to wait a couple turns to see if they will increase their offer.
We are now making 113 gpt.
Hastings production changed from courthouse (corruption is low) to marketplace to increase revenue and happiness.
Canterbury changed from colleseum (it is currently stuck at size 4) to factory in 17 turns. Will have to get some workers clearing the jungle here, it has some good production potential.
Smolensk changed from cathedral to factory in 10 turns.
Tatung changed from rifleman in 66 turns to temple in 46 turns.
Xinjian changed from courthouse to harbor. It is stuck at size 4 with no growth. After the harbor, then aqueduct, and then courthouse or marketplace.
Chengdu is building a temple, may try to rush this.
Heidelburg changed from colosseum to rifleman.
Newcastle changed from courthouse (corruption is low) to marketplace to increase revenue and happiness.
Sevsatopol changed from university to harbor as we are stuck at size 7.
Tblisi changed from univerisity to aqueduct as we are stuck at size 6, then go for harbor.
Yakutsk changed from swordsman to temple, another front line city with no culture.
Beijing changed from univerisity to marketplace.
York changed from bank to factory.
Canton changed from university to factory.
After all the production reviews I sort all the cities by shield production. Moscow is tops and the factory will be done in 13 turns. Rushing it will cost 824 gold but I decide it is worth it to get a jump start on Universal Sufferage. We will be back up over 1000 gold in the treasury before Wall Street is finished in 3 turns.
1450AD
Moscow completes factory and starts on Universal Sufferage, 30 turns, but growth and railroads will decrease this.
Dropped science rate another 10% without delaying discovery of medicine.
1455AD
Macao finishes library, starts on harbor
Universal Sufferage is already down to just 23 turns away.
1460AD
Finish Medicine, change to Sanitation, after bumping science rate to 70% it is just 5 turns away.
Wall Street is completed in St Petersburg, start factory.
Sell Incense to India for Democracy, wm and 80 gold.
Raise science rate another 10% to reduce discovery of sanitation to 4 turns and we are breaking even.
1465AD
London finishes rifleman, starts on university.
1470AD
Nanking finishes library, starts on courthouse.
Warwick finishes aqueduct, starts on harbor.
1475AD
Persia would like a MPP and ROP, even up. I decline, not ready to get into a war that they start just yet. They are cautious so I give them 25 gold instead and now they are polite.
Germany and Aztecs sign a MPP.
Minsk finishes marketplace, starts on courthouse, may switch this to hospital next turn when sanitation is completed.
Drop science rate by 10% for one turn, no effect on finishing sanitation next turn.
Rush factory in Kiev. We need some cities to produce military. I don't like the looks of Germany and Aztecs
1480AD
Sanitation completed. Decide to go towards Electronics, Hoover Dam would be real nice.
Beijing completes marketplace, starts on hospital
Kiev finishes factory, starts on hospital
Heidelburg finishes rifleman, starts another.
1485AD
Zinjian finishes harbor, starts on aqueduct.
Smolensk finishes factory, starts on university.
Tblisi finishes aqueduct, starts on harbor.
1490AD
York finishes factory, starts on hospital
Minsk switched to hospital
Sevastopol finishes harbor, starts on university.
1495AD
France wants a MPP and ROP. Turn her down as well.
Canton finishes factory, starts on hospital.
1500AD
Warwick finishes harbor, starts on worker. We need more improvements and pollution will be starting any time now.
1505AD
Science rate dropped 10%, electricity still due in 2 turns.
1510AD
London finishes university, starts on factory.
Kiev finishes hospital, starts on rifleman. Our military is finally going to grow.
Newcastle finishes marketplace, starts on worker.
Tsingtao finishes marketplace, starts on aqueduct.
1515AD
Electricity is completed, start on Scientific Method. Science rate increased to 70%, we will finish in 5 turns, we are making 45 gpt.
Smolensk finishes university, starts on cathedral.
Odessa finishes factory, starts on cossack.
Tientsin finishes aqueduct, starts on harbor.
Yakutsk finishes temple, starts on library.
Warwick finishes worker, starts on factory.
1520AD
Our palace is expanded.
Newcastle completes worker, starts on university.
1525AD
Magellan's is completed in Nottingham, start factory.
1530AD
China wants to trade world maps, I tell him to take a hike.
Canterbury finishes factory, starts on rifleman.
No cascade to Universal Sufferage, we are only 7 turns away.
Drop science rate to 50% for the next two turns to maximize cash.
Rush temple in Chengdu at cost of 16 gold to avoid revolt in 2 turns due to growth.
1535AD
York completes hospital, starts on rifleman.
Chengdu completes temple, starts on marketplace. This will need to be rushed before too long.
1540AD
Scientific Method discovered, Atomic Theory started. Raised science rate to 70%, will complete in 9 turns.
Canton finishes hospital, starts university.
Liverpool completes aqueduct, starts marketplace.
Kiev switched to Theory of Evolution, 19 turns away.
1545AD
Odessa completes cossack, starts worker.
It looks like the Aztecs are about to attack. They have troops down in the area of Warwick, Nottingham and Canterbury. Mostly jag warriors, a couple longbowmen are the worst threat. There are cossacks fortified in many of our cities and there are some swordsman that can be used for attack as well. Almost all of the cities are protected by at least one rifleman and three cities are producing more. I don't think they will be much of a threat. The worst part is that they have a MPP with Germany who I have seen has some cavalry.
Most of the trade agreements are up for renegotiation. You will lose one of the luxury imports if war breaks out with the Aztecs.
I think we still need more workers, there are lots of improvements that need to be made. I tried to get all the cities hooked up by rails but didn't quite make it. I tried to look for opportunities to buy workers from other civs but didn't find any available.
Universal Sufferage is 4 turns away in Moscow. Theory of Evolution is 18 turns in Kiev, if Hoover Dam becomes available before then I would switch Kiev to Hoover and build Theory of Evolution somewhere else.
I turned on animations so I could see what the Aztecs were up to, turn them off if you don't want them.
Good luck to the next leader.
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Preturn -
Animators are fired.
We are wonder maniacs. We did great for the middle age rush.
We are the ONLY ones building Suffrage and Toe. Both in cities with factories
Wake cossack in cities not on the rail net, and park them on trains.
I agree with the previous leader - we need more workers!
I change several cities to factory. The big human advantages is the AI doesn't realize the importance of factories.
Diplo check - China still hates us.
Persia and Germany need coal
The only tech they have, that we don't - Communism, the worst tech in the game.
No workers for sale, net a few bucks for map.
1550 AD - Mmow, building stuff. Placing guards on exposed workers with aztecs nearby.
Ivory cost us $1 more a turn - I think we can afford it.
1555 AD - Our workers complete the Liverpool rail net.
Starting to fortify the borders - clear hint to Aztecs - go away.
1560 AD - I have found a use for swordsman - the make great border guards
MPP with Germany - Go ahead Aztec - attack me!
Suffrage is completed in Moscow - Cathedral is ordered.
The palace is expanded.
1565 AD - York is on the railnet.
Main worker efforts at Nottingham - fp - great production city, and Kiev (ToE).
Revolution for Democracy - 7 turns of Anarchy - GACK
Check trading possiblities, 80 bucks for Incense isn't great, but ...
Dyes to France for $3/t.
Still no workers sale - I popped a few out, but we need a lot more.
1570 AD - The pain of Anarchy.
Now this annoying - we are in Anarchy, but the domestic advisor is complaining about sanitation needs?
1575 AD - boring
1580 AD - Idiots, the Aztecs declare war on us.
Really, really stupid, since Germany will turn on them thanks to the MPP.
:flamedevi: Germany declares war on the Aztecs.
Of course, it starts in the middle of Anarchy
Casualities - a couple of swordsman, and stolen workers.
The Aztecs have calvary, I saw Germany kill one.
1585 AD - The counter attack begins. Results
Dead Aztecs - 6 jaguar, 1 pikeman, 2 rifleman, 3 spearman, 2 longbowman
Dead Russians - 1 cosack, 1 swordsman
Tamuin is captured.
Well, I think Russian won round 1. The only reason more Aztecs didn't die, was my Germany allies killed some before I had a chance.
In a true fit of evilness, I sign an alliance with China vs. the Aztecs.
That should permantly solve any flip problems.
Palace expansion again.
Shakespeare's thearte begins, who cares?
Nothing attacked by Aztec's except for a road.
I think the Jaguar army died by Munich.
1590 AD - Round 2
Dead Aztecs - 1 pikeman, 1 jauger, 1 spearman. No Russian losses.
Xinjian on the road net.
1595 AD - Tzin is captured at the cost of 1 cosack.
Indian was us???? to pay him for an MPP. Give him a free map instead.
:flamedevi: The Aztecs kill the Chinesse. Good riddance.
ARGGGGGGGG. Can't get a RoP with Germany.
Your sneak attack vs. England is well known
A previous player really screwed us here.
1600 AD - Marching a bunch of Cossacks toward the last city we can take.
Summary - We are royally screwed. I don't know when the RoP was broken, but I never would have signed an MPP with Germany had I know
that. We now have a worthless war with the Aztecs. Best bet - sit out the war, improve our infastructure.
Post your intention to play, and complete your turn with 24 hours.
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Animators are fired.
We are wonder maniacs. We did great for the middle age rush.
We are the ONLY ones building Suffrage and Toe. Both in cities with factories
Wake cossack in cities not on the rail net, and park them on trains.
I agree with the previous leader - we need more workers!
I change several cities to factory. The big human advantages is the AI doesn't realize the importance of factories.
Diplo check - China still hates us.
Persia and Germany need coal
The only tech they have, that we don't - Communism, the worst tech in the game.
No workers for sale, net a few bucks for map.
1550 AD - Mmow, building stuff. Placing guards on exposed workers with aztecs nearby.
Ivory cost us $1 more a turn - I think we can afford it.
1555 AD - Our workers complete the Liverpool rail net.
Starting to fortify the borders - clear hint to Aztecs - go away.
1560 AD - I have found a use for swordsman - the make great border guards
MPP with Germany - Go ahead Aztec - attack me!
Suffrage is completed in Moscow - Cathedral is ordered.
The palace is expanded.
1565 AD - York is on the railnet.
Main worker efforts at Nottingham - fp - great production city, and Kiev (ToE).
Revolution for Democracy - 7 turns of Anarchy - GACK
Check trading possiblities, 80 bucks for Incense isn't great, but ...
Dyes to France for $3/t.
Still no workers sale - I popped a few out, but we need a lot more.
1570 AD - The pain of Anarchy.
Now this annoying - we are in Anarchy, but the domestic advisor is complaining about sanitation needs?
1575 AD - boring
1580 AD - Idiots, the Aztecs declare war on us.
Really, really stupid, since Germany will turn on them thanks to the MPP.
:flamedevi: Germany declares war on the Aztecs.
Of course, it starts in the middle of Anarchy
Casualities - a couple of swordsman, and stolen workers.
The Aztecs have calvary, I saw Germany kill one.
1585 AD - The counter attack begins. Results
Dead Aztecs - 6 jaguar, 1 pikeman, 2 rifleman, 3 spearman, 2 longbowman
Dead Russians - 1 cosack, 1 swordsman
Tamuin is captured.
Well, I think Russian won round 1. The only reason more Aztecs didn't die, was my Germany allies killed some before I had a chance.
In a true fit of evilness, I sign an alliance with China vs. the Aztecs.
That should permantly solve any flip problems.Palace expansion again.
Shakespeare's thearte begins, who cares?
Nothing attacked by Aztec's except for a road.
I think the Jaguar army died by Munich.
1590 AD - Round 2
Dead Aztecs - 1 pikeman, 1 jauger, 1 spearman. No Russian losses.
Xinjian on the road net.
1595 AD - Tzin is captured at the cost of 1 cosack.
Indian was us???? to pay him for an MPP. Give him a free map instead.
:flamedevi: The Aztecs kill the Chinesse. Good riddance.
ARGGGGGGGG. Can't get a RoP with Germany.
Your sneak attack vs. England is well known
A previous player really screwed us here.
1600 AD - Marching a bunch of Cossacks toward the last city we can take.
Summary - We are royally screwed. I don't know when the RoP was broken, but I never would have signed an MPP with Germany had I know
that. We now have a worthless war with the Aztecs. Best bet - sit out the war, improve our infastructure.
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meldor
Deity
I checked back through the posts and no one said they signed an ROP with England. As a matter of fact, I will point to the reign of BrianJ and LKendter during the time from 550AD to 750AD and the last English war.
550 AD - BrianJ signs an ROP with Germany, at this time we have a peace treaty with England.
660 AD - Lizzie objects to a settler wandering into her territory - so no ROP in force at that time.
710 AD - BrianJ declares war on England after peace treaty expires.
750 AD - LKendter destroys the last English city and they are no more.
If these tomes of history are correct the Germans can only be mad about two things.....1) BrainJ declared war one turn too early and Biz didn't like that or.... 2) Biz had a thing for Liz and is mad we sent her packing......
This is assuming that BrianJ didn't sign an ROP with England right before the attack...which would have made no sense at all....
I will play later if no one has taken it (THIS IS NOT A GOT IT MESSAGE). Unfortunately duty calls...
550 AD - BrianJ signs an ROP with Germany, at this time we have a peace treaty with England.
660 AD - Lizzie objects to a settler wandering into her territory - so no ROP in force at that time.
710 AD - BrianJ declares war on England after peace treaty expires.
750 AD - LKendter destroys the last English city and they are no more.
If these tomes of history are correct the Germans can only be mad about two things.....1) BrainJ declared war one turn too early and Biz didn't like that or.... 2) Biz had a thing for Liz and is mad we sent her packing......
This is assuming that BrianJ didn't sign an ROP with England right before the attack...which would have made no sense at all....
I will play later if no one has taken it (THIS IS NOT A GOT IT MESSAGE). Unfortunately duty calls...
meldor
Deity
I now have it.....
meldor
Deity
Preturn - I don't get the same message from Bizmark....gt ROP for 600g
Sanitaion sold to India for Free Artistry 80g 13gpt
Sanitation sold to Germany for 210g
Sanitation sold to Persia for 100g and 6gpt
With ROP in place I wake all of the Cossacks and send them towards Aztlan.
1605 AD - Cossacks march on Teato in the south and Xochicalco in the north.
1615 AD - Teato is ours and no one is left to the south of us but Germany.
1620 AD - Cossack dropped on coast pillages only source of furs for Aztecs. Xochicalco captured and then lost.
1630 AD - Aztecs and Germany sign peace treaty....we still have MPP with Germany.
1635 AD - War weariness begins to be felt as Lux sliders starts to climb.
1640 AD - Seige of Xochicalco coutinues.
1645 AD - Xochicalco swaps back and forth again but this brings the Germans back into the war. Not that they did much the first time except lose all of there units trying to take the city with dyes in it.
1655 AD - finally get a Cossack to sucessfully pillage the Aztecs only source of Iron. They will either have to buy it or do without.
1665 AD - Xochicalco is ours again, hopefully for good! Tlaxcala (the city with the dyes) falls to us as well.
1670 AD - Complete Sheakespeare's Theater...just for fun.
1675 AD - Peter the Great comes to us during clean-up around the city of Tlaxcala. He is brought into the city and an army is form of Cossacks.
1680 AD - Army gets first victory and we start the Military Academy, Heroic Epic, and Battlefield Medicine.
1695 AD - Start seige of Tenochtitian 2 rifles are killed and only Cav show as defenders.
1700 AD - We capture Tenochtitian and the Hanging Gardens with it. This also cuts the Aztecs off from all of their Ivory. troops begin to Move towards Tlatilolco and all of that Ivory.
Notes: War weariness is pretty strong right now. I thought we could get 4-5 cities fromthe Aztecs without switching governments. After we take the Ivory source we may want to allow them some peace and us a chance to rest some protesters.
Hoover Dam is due in 13 turns.
Intelligence Agency is due in 2 turns.
Militery Academy is due in 8 turns.
Battlefield Medicine is due in 10 turns.
Heroic Epic is due in 3 turns.
If you want to see some wonders built this wil be the turn for you. There is no competition on any of the Great Wonders.
Sanitaion sold to India for Free Artistry 80g 13gpt
Sanitation sold to Germany for 210g
Sanitation sold to Persia for 100g and 6gpt
With ROP in place I wake all of the Cossacks and send them towards Aztlan.
1605 AD - Cossacks march on Teato in the south and Xochicalco in the north.
1615 AD - Teato is ours and no one is left to the south of us but Germany.
1620 AD - Cossack dropped on coast pillages only source of furs for Aztecs. Xochicalco captured and then lost.
1630 AD - Aztecs and Germany sign peace treaty....we still have MPP with Germany.
1635 AD - War weariness begins to be felt as Lux sliders starts to climb.
1640 AD - Seige of Xochicalco coutinues.
1645 AD - Xochicalco swaps back and forth again but this brings the Germans back into the war. Not that they did much the first time except lose all of there units trying to take the city with dyes in it.
1655 AD - finally get a Cossack to sucessfully pillage the Aztecs only source of Iron. They will either have to buy it or do without.
1665 AD - Xochicalco is ours again, hopefully for good! Tlaxcala (the city with the dyes) falls to us as well.
1670 AD - Complete Sheakespeare's Theater...just for fun.
1675 AD - Peter the Great comes to us during clean-up around the city of Tlaxcala. He is brought into the city and an army is form of Cossacks.
1680 AD - Army gets first victory and we start the Military Academy, Heroic Epic, and Battlefield Medicine.
1695 AD - Start seige of Tenochtitian 2 rifles are killed and only Cav show as defenders.
1700 AD - We capture Tenochtitian and the Hanging Gardens with it. This also cuts the Aztecs off from all of their Ivory. troops begin to Move towards Tlatilolco and all of that Ivory.
Notes: War weariness is pretty strong right now. I thought we could get 4-5 cities fromthe Aztecs without switching governments. After we take the Ivory source we may want to allow them some peace and us a chance to rest some protesters.
Hoover Dam is due in 13 turns.
Intelligence Agency is due in 2 turns.
Militery Academy is due in 8 turns.
Battlefield Medicine is due in 10 turns.
Heroic Epic is due in 3 turns.
If you want to see some wonders built this wil be the turn for you. There is no competition on any of the Great Wonders.
meldor
Deity
PS - I didn't do any adjustments for the Hanging Gardens. You can probably lower Lux some and/or adjust the cities.
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Well 600 dollars for a RoP is still absurd
All we got were some 1/1 cities.
Immediate peace with the Aztecs. We are at an absurd luxury rate, and still on the verge of Goverment collapse. A bunch of 1/1 cities aren't worth it. Even the Ivory isn't.
Cancel the MPP with Germany.
We get $140 & $18/t from the Aztecs for Peace.
Palace expansion.
1705 AD - Nanking has so much extra food, I can't even count it. Begin massive mining project up there.
Intelligence agency completed.
1710 AD - German relations collapsing, they are now annoyed. Blasted RoP ended at the wrong time.
Heroic Epic Completes in St. Pete.
1715 AD - Minks also has absurd amount of food. Begin mining there.
1725 AD - mmow. Science decision - replaceable parts. Better military, and faster workers.
1735 AD - mmow. Military academy is completed.
1745 AD - mmow. Replaceable parts sooner than expected - Start on steel.
Battle medicine is completed.
1750 AD - mmow. Massive unit upgrade to Infantry.
1752 AD - We get to hit 'F' quite a few times. Plus, the standard mmow.
Hoover dam is completed.
Salzburg flips to us.
1762 AD - mmow. Researching combustion.
Meldor, hanging gardens in LONG useless. It dies with railroad.
Summary - Another Aztec war would collapse our Democracy, don't bother
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Well 600 dollars for a RoP is still absurd
All we got were some 1/1 cities.
Immediate peace with the Aztecs. We are at an absurd luxury rate, and still on the verge of Goverment collapse. A bunch of 1/1 cities aren't worth it. Even the Ivory isn't.
Cancel the MPP with Germany.
We get $140 & $18/t from the Aztecs for Peace.
Palace expansion.
1705 AD - Nanking has so much extra food, I can't even count it. Begin massive mining project up there.
Intelligence agency completed.
1710 AD - German relations collapsing, they are now annoyed. Blasted RoP ended at the wrong time.
Heroic Epic Completes in St. Pete.
1715 AD - Minks also has absurd amount of food. Begin mining there.
1725 AD - mmow. Science decision - replaceable parts. Better military, and faster workers.
1735 AD - mmow. Military academy is completed.
1745 AD - mmow. Replaceable parts sooner than expected - Start on steel.
Battle medicine is completed.
1750 AD - mmow. Massive unit upgrade to Infantry.
1752 AD - We get to hit 'F' quite a few times. Plus, the standard mmow.
Hoover dam is completed.
Salzburg flips to us.1762 AD - mmow. Researching combustion.
Meldor, hanging gardens in LONG useless. It dies with railroad.
Summary - Another Aztec war would collapse our Democracy, don't bother
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Readylander
Warlord
I've got the game.
Readylander
Warlord
Pre-turn:
Need to rush the temples in the recently acquired Aztec cities, especially the one near the ivory, we could really use the additional luxury that our cultural border expansion will bring. Lots of improvements needed, will try to buy some workers from other civs if possible.
Need more infantry for defense, I would like to have two in some of our more strategic defensive locations.
Most of our trade agreements can be renegotiated. Everyone but Montezuma is polite with us.
Trade agreement renegotiating:
India, furs and incense for 20 gpt, now 33 gpt, 176 gold, wm
Persia, gems, furs, dyes and incense for spices and 33 gpt, now furs, incense and gems spices and 170 gold. I hate when this happens. They just won't offer as much as they were paying. They will only offer and additional 17 gpt for dyes but India is willing to pay 24 gpt so India gets them. Persia would pay 27 gpt for coal but I hate to trade strategic resources and we are in great shape financially so they don't get any coal from us.
Other civs appear too poor at this point to squeeze any more money from them.
Temple rushed in Tenochtitlan. Border expansion may get us ivory.
London production switched from police station to hospital. City is stuck at size 12 with very little corruption.
Nanking production switched from bank to hospital. City is stuck at size 12 and we don't need cash at the moment.
Hastings production switched from bank to cathedral. City is experiencing some unhappiness.
Temple rushed in Tlaxcala.
Xinjian production switched from factory to marketplace. Only producing 4 shields at this point, factory was 56 turns away.
Temple rushed in Xochicalco.
Newcastle produciton switched from police station to hospital. City is stuck at size 12 with very little corruption.
Tsingtao production switched from courthouse to university. City has very little waste.
Sverdlovsk production switched from library to harbor. City is stuck at size 2.
Tientsin production switched from bank to university.
Sevastopol production switched from police station to hospital. City is stuck at size 12.
Macao production switched from factory to aqueduct. City is stuck at size 6 and only producing 7 shields at this size.
Yakutsk production switched from factory to aqueduct. City is only size 5 producing 5 shields.
Increase science rate to 60%, reducing time to combustion to 3 turns and we are still making 50 gpt.
(1) 1770AD
We discover a new source of oil on the little island of Salzburg.
(2) 1772AD
More worker movements, concentrating improvements from the capital and forbidden palace outwards.
(3) 1774AD
More worker movements
(4) 1776AD
Complete Combustion, start Flight
(5) 1778AD
Cultural borders expand and we get some ivory!!
Entertainment tax is dropped from 10% to zero.
(6) 1780AD
(7) 1782AD
(8) 1784AD
India declares war on Persia
(9) 1786AD
(10) 1788AD
Flight discovered, start research of Mass Production
Switch many of the high shield producing cities over to construction of airports.
(11) 1790AD
Aztecs and Persia sign military alliance against India and then the Aztecs declare war on the Indians
France and India sign a military alliance against Persia and France declares war on Persia
Then India comes to us for an embargo against the Aztecs. I can't think of any good reason to accept so I send him on his way.
Persia and Aztecs sign a military alliance against Germany. Persia declares war on Germany.
(12) 1792AD
(13) 1794AD
(14) 1796AD
Mass Production discovered, Motorized Transportation research begun, will take 4 turns and we are still making 174 gpt.
The Pentagon is started in Odessa.
Decide it is time to take out some of the German cities so I sign a military alliance against Germany with Aztecs and RoP with Aztecs, they give us 15 gpt and wm
Take Leipzig, Munich, Bonn (which produces a GL,Stalin), Dortmund, Hanover all at the lose of 2 cossacks
(15) 1798AD
Took New Berlin, no loses
(16) 1800AD
Took Brandenburg, New Leipzig, no loses
(17) 1802AD
Took Nuremberg and Bremen with no loses
(18) 1804AD
Completed Motorized Transport, started Radio
Took Stuttgart and Germany is wiped out.
(19) 1806AD
Worker movements
I am going to leave it here for the next leader. I think we are in good shape and can probably win anyway we want. We are ahead in tech, have a good treasury and income and a decent military. Our navy and air force are lacking though.
The troops need to be organized, cossacks are pretty much where they were when the war ended. All cities have at least one infantry, with two in some of the strategic locations. Most military production is now tanks, though none have been finished yet. Lots of work yet to do with workers, especially around the former German cities. I concentrated on improving cities around our capital and forbidden palace, Nottingham.
Great Leader, Stalin, is in Moscow, and an empty army is in Odessa.
Many trade agreements will be due for renegotiation in a turn or two. Maybe we can get another luxury out of someone.
Good luck to the next leader.
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Need to rush the temples in the recently acquired Aztec cities, especially the one near the ivory, we could really use the additional luxury that our cultural border expansion will bring. Lots of improvements needed, will try to buy some workers from other civs if possible.
Need more infantry for defense, I would like to have two in some of our more strategic defensive locations.
Most of our trade agreements can be renegotiated. Everyone but Montezuma is polite with us.
Trade agreement renegotiating:
India, furs and incense for 20 gpt, now 33 gpt, 176 gold, wm
Persia, gems, furs, dyes and incense for spices and 33 gpt, now furs, incense and gems spices and 170 gold. I hate when this happens. They just won't offer as much as they were paying. They will only offer and additional 17 gpt for dyes but India is willing to pay 24 gpt so India gets them. Persia would pay 27 gpt for coal but I hate to trade strategic resources and we are in great shape financially so they don't get any coal from us.
Other civs appear too poor at this point to squeeze any more money from them.
Temple rushed in Tenochtitlan. Border expansion may get us ivory.
London production switched from police station to hospital. City is stuck at size 12 with very little corruption.
Nanking production switched from bank to hospital. City is stuck at size 12 and we don't need cash at the moment.
Hastings production switched from bank to cathedral. City is experiencing some unhappiness.
Temple rushed in Tlaxcala.
Xinjian production switched from factory to marketplace. Only producing 4 shields at this point, factory was 56 turns away.
Temple rushed in Xochicalco.
Newcastle produciton switched from police station to hospital. City is stuck at size 12 with very little corruption.
Tsingtao production switched from courthouse to university. City has very little waste.
Sverdlovsk production switched from library to harbor. City is stuck at size 2.
Tientsin production switched from bank to university.
Sevastopol production switched from police station to hospital. City is stuck at size 12.
Macao production switched from factory to aqueduct. City is stuck at size 6 and only producing 7 shields at this size.
Yakutsk production switched from factory to aqueduct. City is only size 5 producing 5 shields.
Increase science rate to 60%, reducing time to combustion to 3 turns and we are still making 50 gpt.
(1) 1770AD
We discover a new source of oil on the little island of Salzburg.
(2) 1772AD
More worker movements, concentrating improvements from the capital and forbidden palace outwards.
(3) 1774AD
More worker movements
(4) 1776AD
Complete Combustion, start Flight
(5) 1778AD
Cultural borders expand and we get some ivory!!
Entertainment tax is dropped from 10% to zero.
(6) 1780AD
(7) 1782AD
(8) 1784AD
India declares war on Persia
(9) 1786AD
(10) 1788AD
Flight discovered, start research of Mass Production
Switch many of the high shield producing cities over to construction of airports.
(11) 1790AD
Aztecs and Persia sign military alliance against India and then the Aztecs declare war on the Indians
France and India sign a military alliance against Persia and France declares war on Persia
Then India comes to us for an embargo against the Aztecs. I can't think of any good reason to accept so I send him on his way.
Persia and Aztecs sign a military alliance against Germany. Persia declares war on Germany.
(12) 1792AD
(13) 1794AD
(14) 1796AD
Mass Production discovered, Motorized Transportation research begun, will take 4 turns and we are still making 174 gpt.
The Pentagon is started in Odessa.
Decide it is time to take out some of the German cities so I sign a military alliance against Germany with Aztecs and RoP with Aztecs, they give us 15 gpt and wm
Take Leipzig, Munich, Bonn (which produces a GL,Stalin), Dortmund, Hanover all at the lose of 2 cossacks
(15) 1798AD
Took New Berlin, no loses
(16) 1800AD
Took Brandenburg, New Leipzig, no loses
(17) 1802AD
Took Nuremberg and Bremen with no loses
(18) 1804AD
Completed Motorized Transport, started Radio
Took Stuttgart and Germany is wiped out.
(19) 1806AD
Worker movements
I am going to leave it here for the next leader. I think we are in good shape and can probably win anyway we want. We are ahead in tech, have a good treasury and income and a decent military. Our navy and air force are lacking though.
The troops need to be organized, cossacks are pretty much where they were when the war ended. All cities have at least one infantry, with two in some of the strategic locations. Most military production is now tanks, though none have been finished yet. Lots of work yet to do with workers, especially around the former German cities. I concentrated on improving cities around our capital and forbidden palace, Nottingham.
Great Leader, Stalin, is in Moscow, and an empty army is in Odessa.
Many trade agreements will be due for renegotiation in a turn or two. Maybe we can get another luxury out of someone.
Good luck to the next leader.
[EDIT] Deleted attachment to save disk space
Dark Sheer
Deity
Ok. I managed to play 20 turns and here is a brief summary of what has happen.
1806AD - Pre-turn.
1812AD - Discovered Radio & Rocketry. Now going for computers.
1814AD - Palace expanded
1822AD - War is declared on Persia as a result of MPP with France.
1830AD - First Army landed in Persia land.
1832AD - Assault on Bactra begin!
1834AD - Second shipload of army landed near Bactra. Sunk a Persian Destroyer.
1836AD - Discovered ecology and going for Synthetic Fiber. Looks like persian has no rubber as they start to draft rifleman.
1842AD - We captured Bactra. Persia lost a number of cavalry in their counterattack. Russian forces hold.
1844AD - Samaria captured. Persia lost a number of cavalry & infantry in their counterattack.
1846AD - Discovered Synthetic Fibers and going for Fussion. Upgraded all tanks to Modern Armor.
For whoever is playing next, there are alot of units in Bactra and Samaria which includes Mech Inf and Modern Armor and all Persia has is infantry and cavalry. An airport has also being rushed at Bactra if more unit is needed. Have fun!!
Here is the savegame.
1806AD - Pre-turn.
1812AD - Discovered Radio & Rocketry. Now going for computers.
1814AD - Palace expanded
1822AD - War is declared on Persia as a result of MPP with France.
1830AD - First Army landed in Persia land.
1832AD - Assault on Bactra begin!
1834AD - Second shipload of army landed near Bactra. Sunk a Persian Destroyer.
1836AD - Discovered ecology and going for Synthetic Fiber. Looks like persian has no rubber as they start to draft rifleman.
1842AD - We captured Bactra. Persia lost a number of cavalry in their counterattack. Russian forces hold.
1844AD - Samaria captured. Persia lost a number of cavalry & infantry in their counterattack.
1846AD - Discovered Synthetic Fibers and going for Fussion. Upgraded all tanks to Modern Armor.
For whoever is playing next, there are alot of units in Bactra and Samaria which includes Mech Inf and Modern Armor and all Persia has is infantry and cavalry. An airport has also being rushed at Bactra if more unit is needed. Have fun!!
Here is the savegame.
