Suggestion of new full civis to be done

The pic is actually the actual version of the Hussar; now it's a ceremonial unit that guard the Presidential Palace. In the time of the independece, this units made their debut on the second half of the war (1822-1824). The fought with swords and pistols mostly, to gain mobility in the mountains of central Peru (they were the definite factor in the Battle of Junin (1823) and Ayacucho (1824) ) BTW, Peru never had a mounted calvary division. The Hussar used sword mostly until the verge or the XX century.
 
Polietileno said:
The pic is actually the actual version of the Hussar; now it's a ceremonial unit that guard the Presidential Palace. In the time of the independece, this units made their debut on the second half of the war (1822-1824). The fought with swords and pistols mostly, to gain mobility in the mountains of central Peru (they were the definite factor in the Battle of Junin (1823) and Ayacucho (1824) ) BTW, Peru never had a mounted calvary division. The Hussar used sword mostly until the verge or the XX century.

I think I could do this unit using Swords and it could replace Knights, cos the similar weapon, in spite of the incorrect dates (Knight in Middle Age and Hussar in the Modern One). The power of the unit could be one extra moviment per turn and igone hills/mountains.


vbraun said:
If you do the estruscans theres a thread i started a long time ago with pretty much all you'll need.

Please, post the link of the old thread if u find it ;)
I sent a PM to R8FXT asking if he already done this civ before, he didn't anwser me yet. I checked his library and Annon Domi first page and didn't find this civ there, but I will just start working in this leaderhead after have received his confirmation this LH is not in his plains ;) :)


bloodofages said:
May i suggest Serbia?

Cool suggestion! Maybe I could remove Colombia of this pack, includ Serbia and add Colombia in the next LH pack
 
CivArmy s. 1994 said:
I think I could do this unit using Swords and it could replace Knights, cos the similar weapon, in spite of the incorrect dates (Knight in Middle Age and Hussar in the Modern One). The power of the unit could be one extra moviment per turn and igone hills/mountains.

I was thinking that it can replace Calvary, ignore mountains/hill and having Blitz ability, costing 10 more shields.
 
Polietileno said:
I was thinking that it can replace Calvary, ignore mountains/hill and having Blitz ability, costing 10 more shields.

It is a good idea. But since it doesn't use the rifle it could have one point less for attack and cost the same of Cavalry.
 
Serbia

and

Bulgaria


Please make 'em! I've been waiting for someone to come along and wanna do it... :)
 
CivArmy s. 1994 said:
Thanks you! I saw the thread and I if I remember correctly the Spartans were the descendents of the Etruscans, so, if this information is correct do u think 2 better bonuses could be Militaristic and Commercial?

AFAIK, the Etruscans were natives to the italian penisula and were annexed by Rome. They did have great influence because of all the sea trade that happened. I don't believ they actually left to Greece.
 
vbraun said:
AFAIK, the Etruscans were natives to the italian penisula and were annexed by Rome. They did have great influence because of all the sea trade that happened. I don't believ they actually left to Greece.

I'll check my old history books, but I think u r right, I did a confusion with the name of the tribes :lol:
 
I would suggest the Mormons. Leaderhead: Brigham Young. If you would like some concept art, I could get you some. For an Industrial-era scenario I've wanted to do, but lacked the graphics for it.

A little historical context.

The Mormon Church, or the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, as it is formally called, has a controversial history. Begun in 1820 in New York, it began slowly but soon moved to Ohio to escape persecution. From the beginning, a Zionist and Millenialist streak in Mormon doctrine made them distrusted by neighbors. They tended to stick together, help one another out, and congregated in central locations as much as possible. This owed to the belief that a new Millenium was about to arrive, and that they were supposed to prepare for it by building Zion somewhere on the American continent. Persecutions continued, and the Mormon leader, Joseph Smith, revealed that the location of Zion would be in Missouri. Converts continued to swell the Mormon ranks, and when the church moved en masse to the area of Independence Missouri, they created much suspicion and antagonism among their neighbors. In a frontier area, such a large influx of people (who voted as a single block and were more industrious than their woodsmen neighbors) created political destabilization. In a pro-slavery state, the Mormons were especially disliked for their anti-slavery beliefs. Tensions with Missourians erupted into warfare, and the Mormons faced an extermination order signed by the state governor. Their leaders were incarcerated and the Mormon zionists were driven from the state.

A new beginning in Illinois on the banks of the Mississippi river at Nauvoo seemed to go well at first. Their new "Zion" grew rapidly and the Mormons enjoyed prosperity under a unique city charter--one that even granted them the right to maintain a standing militia, with Joseph Smith as commander. As thousands of converts poured in from successful missionary efforts in England, Nauvoo became the largest city in Illinois for a time, even rivaling Chicago. The separatist mentality of the Mormons, along with their continued tendency to vote as a single political block, continued to make them enemies in the state legislature. The Mormons believed that their new Zion was to grow and fill the whole earth, and Joseph Smith even ran for president of the United States.

The Nauvoo period ended with the martyrdom of Joseph Smith, whom the Mormons followed as a prophet. He was killed by an angry mob, and the Mormons were threatened with open warfare if they did not leave the state soon. Brigham Young, the head apostle of the church, assumed leadership of the Mormons and began preparations for a massive exodus outside the borders of the United States, to the Rocky Mountains in the West. Joseph Smith had indicated his belief that the Mormons would eventually go there to find peace and refuge, and the time had arrived for them to go. The massive migration from Illinois to the Great Salt Lake Valley (in present-day Utah) was the largest single migration in U.S. history. Many died along the way. Converts continued to pour in from Europe, the U.S., and the Pacific for the next half century under a zionist doctrine that required Mormons to concentrate in a central location. The new Zion in the deserts and mountains of the West was called Deseret, after a Book of Mormon word for the industrious honeybee, and the people prided themselves in their industry. Brigham Young led the exiled people in carving out an empire from the dry and barren valleys of what is now Utah, Idaho, Colorado, Nevada, and even parts of California. If they had been allowed to fully realize their dream of a theocratic state in the western U.S., the State of Deseret would have been larger than Texas.

Reports of polygamous practices among the Mormons led to the United States Congress sending an army to Deseret to keep an eye on the Mormons. The largest peacetime army in U.S. history was assembled and marched to Salt Lake City to make sure that the Mormons did not have any unfriendly plans against the U.S. The occupying force found the Mormons wary and ready to burn their entire city rather than surrender it to U.S. troops. When assured of the Mormon's intent on peace, the troops restationed themselves in a fort to the south of the city. The Mormon War, as it became known, was settled without any bloodshed between Mormons and U.S. forces.

The Mormons applied for statehood in the United States, but were rejected because of fears about Mormon power, and also because it would destabalize the balance between pro- and anti-slavery states (prior to the U.S. Civil War). After the war, petitions for statehood were rejected because of objections to polygamy, which was seen as an evil practice on par with slavery. Political campaigns in the U.S. had vowed to eradicate the two relics of barbarism, polygamy and slavery, and politicians in Washington were still intent on eliminating the Mormon practice of having plural wives. Laws were passed outlawing polygamy, and Mormon leaders had to go into hiding to escape capture. It was only under the threat of complete disenfranchisement was threatened, including the loss of their all-important temples, that Mormons agreed to give up the practice. The prophet at the time, Wiford Woodruff, issued a degree rescinding polygamy. Some time later, the Mormons were finally able to join the Union as a state, called Utah. The original State of Deseret had been trimmed down by more than 2/3s, as other states around Utah were allowed to enter the U.S. ahead of the Mormons.

I've been interested for awhile in playing an Industrial-age scenario with the U.S., Mexico, and other nations vying for control of the West. The Mormons would have been a major force in the race to colonization. I would recommend giving them the traits of religious and industrious, with Brigham Young as leaderhead. Although he was not the founder of the church, his 40-year term as leader of the church was what brought it stability, a permanent home, and established the doctrines and practices that would guide the zionist movement for over 100 years beyond his death.
 
Well, this is the list:

- Peru
- Nicaragua
- Serbia (replace Colombia)
- Bulgaria
- Etruscans (replace Vatican)
- Lithuania
- Phoenicians
- Khasar
- Any of the Indonesian tribes
- Kushans (restaured my old LH)

The two replaces civis will be done in the LH pack fowards this currently one that I start work soon :)

@Camber: I think The Mormons is a good idea, maybe I can add this one in the same LH pack that included Vatican and Colombia ;)
 
CivArmy s. 1994 said:
Serbia replaces Colombia in the pack ;)

Thank you my friend! It is greatly appreciated! :) :) :)
 
Civilization: Peru
Bonuses: Agricultural and Religius
Title and leader: Marshal Ramon Castilla
Best/shunned government: Democracy and Communism.
Agression: ???
Cultural group: American
Noun: Peruvians
Adjective: Peruvian
Colors: Red (Romans) and Grey (India)
UU: Junin Hussar
Civilopedia entry: RACE_PERU


Cities:
Lima
Cuzco
Arequipa
Trujillo
Iquitos
Chiclayo
Callao
Cerro de Pasco
Ayacucho
Puno
Piura
Cajamarca
Pucalpa
Tacna
Huancayo
Huanuco
Huaraz
Lambayeque
Ica
Abancay
Mollendo
Tumbes
Juliaca
Ucayali
Puerto Maldonado
Moquegua
Chincha
Tocache
Huamanga
Bagua
La Oroya
Pisco
Chimbote
Castrovirreina
San Lorenzo


Military leaders:
Miguel Grau
Francisco Bolognesi
Andres Avelino Cáceres
Fernando Quiñones
Enrique Sanchez-Carrion


Scientific ones:
Cesar Vallejo
Mario Vargas Llosa
Agustin Haya de La Torre
Hernando de Soto
Edgardo Rebalguiati


Civilopedia:


Junin Hussar, the UU:
It replaces Cavalry, attack two times per turn, ignore hills and mountains and has one offensive point less. It is the elite calvary unit who fought during the Indepence War and the Rondero, that is basicly a peruvian farmer armed with rifles that fought againts the maxits guerillas on the 80s.
 
Well, here comes the data that I found in CFC and the data that r missing :)

Civilization: Etruscans
Bonuses: Commercial and Seafaring (Religious)
Title and leader: King Lars Porsenna
Best/shunned government: ???
Agression: ???
Cultural group: Mediterranian
Noun: Etruscans
Adjective: Etruscan
Colors: ???
UU: Etruscan Chariot
Civilopedia entry: RACE_ETRUSCANS

Cities:
Tarquinii
Cisra
Velch
Vetluna
Fufluna
Arretium
Curtun
Clevsin
Perusna
Velzna
Veii
Capeva
Gravisca
Casa
Telamun
Volaterrae
Felsina
Alalia
Mantua
Adria
Spina
Ruma
Saturnia
Rusellae
Bisenzio
Sutri
Nepi
Falerii
Felsina
Mediolano


Military leaders:
Tyrsenos
Velthur Spurinna
Tullus Hostilius
Lucius Tarquinius Priscu

Scientific ones:
Numa Pompilius
Ancus Marcius


Civilopedia:


EtruscanChariot, the UU:
This unit was done by Bebro
It replaces Chariot and ??? (power?)
 
This one is for Serbia, I need the missing data :)


Civilization: Serbia
Bonuses: Religious and Agricultural (Militaristic)
Title and leader: Vožd Karadorde Petrovic
Best/shunned government: Monarchy and Fascism (Despotism)
Agression: 03 (normal)
Cultural group: European
Noun: Serbs
Adjective: Serbian
Colors: Blue (Germans) and Dark Blue (Babylonians)
UU: Cetnik
Civilopedia entry: RACE_SERBIA


Cities:
Ras
Beograd
Niš
Priština
Kruševac
Kragujevac
Novi Sad
Kraljevo
Cacak
Užice
Obrenovac
Valjevo
Šabac
Loznica
Mladenovac
Kosovska Mitrovica
Pec
Arandelovac
Dubrovnik
Podgorica
Cetinje
Skadar
Sarajevo
Banja Luka
Mostar
Tuzla
Zenica
Knin
Vukovar
Skopje
Vršac
Zemun
Pancevo
Ðakovica
Gracanica
Gnjilane
Uroševac
Kacanik
Prizren
Negotin
Bor
Zajecar
Kladovo
Velika Plana
Požarevac
Smederovo
Stalac
Novi Pazar
Požega
Gornji Milanovac
Zvornik
Knjaževac
Aleksinac
Kotor
Herceg-Novi
Bar
Ulcinj
Šavnik
Žabljak
Nikšic
Stara Pazova
Indija
Ruma
Sremska Mitrovica
Šid
Sremski Karlovci
Backa Palanka
Temerin
Becej
Zrenjanin
Novi Becej
Pljevlja
Bijelo Polje
Rožaj
Ivangrad
Plav
Kolašin
Andrijevica
Vladicin Han
Vranje
Surdulica
Bosilegrad
Trgovište
Preševo
Podujevo
Vucitrn
Železnik
Kovin
Virpazar
Bela Crkva
Alibunar
Srpska Crnja
Kikinda
Srbobran
Vrbas
Kula
Crvenka
Odžaci
Apatin
Sombor
Backa Topola
Subotica
Kanjiža
Senta
Kumanovo
Tetovo
Kriva Palanka
Tutin
Sjenica
Nova Varoš
Prijepolje
Ivanjica
Priboj
Istok
Minicevo
Debar
Kicevo
Brod
Kruševo
Bogomila
Štip
Kratovo
Kocani
Pehcevo
Berovo
Strumica
Prilep
Brcko
Bijeljina
Janja
Vlasenica
Ljubovija
Višegrad
Rogatica
Modrica
Gradacac
Doboj
Derventa
Bosanski Šamac
Prnjavor
Bosanska Gradiška
Bosanska Dubica
Prijedor
Bosanska Krupa
Cazin
Vrnograc
Bihac
Sanski Most
Bosanski Petrovac
Drvar
Kljuc
Mrkonjic Grad
Jajce
Travnik
Teslic
Maglaj
Kladanj
Vareš
Fojnica
Visoko
Goražde
Srebrenica
Foca
Gornji Vakuf
Donji Vakuf
Livno
Duvno
Konjic
Stolac
Kalinovik
Maglic
Gacko
Nevesinje
Ljubinje
Bileca
Trebinje
Metkovic
Smederevska Palanka
Veliko Gradište
Kucevo
Petrovac
Knic
Svilajnac
Svetozarevo
Žagubica
Despotovac
Cuprija
Paracin
Ražanj
Varvarin
Trstenik
Ušce
Lešnica
Osecina
Osipaonica


Military leaders:
Miloš Obilic
Knez Lazar Hrebeljanovic
Vojvoda Stevan Sindelic
Vojvoda Stepa Stepanovic
Ðeneral Draža Mihailovic


Scientific ones:
Nikola Tesla
Mihailo Pupin
Vuk Stefanovic Karadžic
Ruder Boškovic
Milutin Milankovic


Civilopedia:


Cetnik, the UU:
Replaces ???
 
More one civ that some data r missing

Civilization: Bulgaria
Bonuses: Militaristic and Agricultural (Religious)
Title and leader: Khan Boris I Michail
Best/shunned government: Monarchy and Communism
Agression: 04 (high)
Cultural group: European
Noun: Bulgar
Adjective: Bulgarian
Colors: ????????
UU: Bulgar Horseman
Civilopedia entry: RACE_BULGARIA

Cities:
Pliska
Preslav
Ohrid
Turnovo
Sofija
Plovdiv
Haskovo
Loveč
Montana
Razgrad
Varna
Burgas
Sliven
Tvardica
Kotel
Klokotnitsa
Trapezitsa
Ivanovo
Kutmichevista
Bankja
Pernik
Breznik
Tran
Slivnica
Svogel
Botevgrad
Elin Pelin
Pirdop
Srednogorie
Ihtiman
Samokov
Dupnica
Radomir
Kjustendil
Gjusevo
Manastir
Blagoevgrad
Razlog
Bansko
Sandanski
Goce Delčev
Petrič
Kostenec
Pazardžik
Velingrad
Peštera
Batak
Devin
Čepelare
Asenovgrad
Smoljan
Rudozem
Madan
Parvomaj
Rakovski
Karlovo
Popinci
Panagjurište
Klisura
Čirpan
Dimitrovgrad
Kardžali
Momčilgrad
Zlatograd
Krumovsgrad
Ljubimec
Harmanli
Simeonovgrad
Radnevo
Stara Zagora
Kazanlak
Kalofer
Trojan
Teteven
Mikre
Ugarčin
Lukovit
Červen Brjag
Dolni Dabnik
Trastenik
Pleven
Pordim
Brest
Gigen
Guljanci
Nikopol
Belene
Obnova
Levski
Svištov
Trambeš
Pavlikeni
Gorna Orjanovica
Veliko Tarnovo
Elena
Drjanovo
Gabrovo
Prohod
Vraca
Mezdra
Gabare
Bjala Slatina
Kneža
Butan
Lehčevo
Borovan
Krivodol
Medkovec
Valčedram
Lom
Varšec
Dolni Lom
Belogradčik
Drenovec
Gramada
Kula
Bregovo
Vidin
Cenovo
Bjala
Dve Mogili
Ruse
Vetovo
Kubrat
Tutrakan
Zafirovo
Dulovo
Alfatar
Zavet
Isperih
Opaka
Popvo
Targovište
Omurtag
Šumen
Novi Pazar
Provadija
Balčik
Kavarna
Šabla
Toševo
Telerig
Kaolinovo
Bjala
Nesebar
Pomorie
Kablešovo
Sozopol
Primorsko
Ahtopol
Rezovo
Malko TArnovo
Zvezdec
Elhovo
Sredec
Kameno
Balgarovo
Ajtos
Karnobat
Jambol
Zornica
Topolovgrad
Nova Zagora

Military leaders:
Kubrat Dulo
Omurtag Juvigi
Krum Dulo
Ivan Stefan Šišman
Georgi Dimitrov

Scientific ones:
Ioan Koukouzel
Konstantin Kostenecki
Grigor Tsamblak
Dimitar Kratovski
Vasil Bogomil

Civilopedia:
Evidence, including pottery shards, a fireplace and flint tools, of ancient Bulgar Bronze Age civilization dating back to at least 2700 BC (and possibly several thousand years earlier) exists in sites such as Magura Cave in the Stara Planina. Thracian tribes have left wall carvings and cave paintings, made with bat guano, which portray people hunting and dancing as well as
creatures curiously resembling giraffes and kangaroos.

Long a crossroads of civilizations (archaeological finds date back to 4600 B.C.), Danube Bulgaria (Bulgaria of present) was first recognized as an independent state in AD 681 and is among the countries in Europe, which survived and kept their original name from the longest time ago. Bulgarian Orthodox Christianity, which became a hallmark of national identity, was
established in the 9th century. Bulgaria was ruled by the Byzantine Empire from 1018 to 1185 and the Ottoman Empire from 1396 to 1878. In 1879, Bulgaria adopted a democratic constitution and invited a German nobleman, Alexander of Battenberg, to be prince.

The present-day Republic of Bulgaria is situated in South-eastern Europe, to the right of the lower reaches of the Danube River. Her Black Sea coastline is famous for its resorts. The distinguishing geographic feature of the Balkan Peninsula - the Balkan Range (the Haemus, the Balkan) - stretches within its borders. The mountain massifs the Balkan Range, Sredna Gora, Strandja, the Rhodopes, Rila and the Pirin mountains - and the open plains make up the relief of this country which, over the elapsed thirteen centuries, has more than once discovered, rediscovered and revived itself; it has been discovered and rediscovered by other nations and countries as well. Bulgaria emerged and received official recognition following two victories over the cosmopolitan Byzantine empire. The first battles took place in the Danube delta area in the year 680 A.D. The conflicts continued in the following year, spreading south of the Balkan Range. This is cited in the Acts of the Sixth Oecumenical Council of the Christian Church in Constantinople (present-day Istanbul).


Bulgar Horseman, the UU:
This unit was done by Utahjazz and the original name is Slavic Horseman
This unit replaces Horseman and ??? (power).
 
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