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- Thread starter Leoreth
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I think this is an argument against Sumeria's inclusion. Not necessarily an argument against an earlier start.
I really like the earlier start to give more flavor to the period before the Persian spawn. Even an extra 10-20 turns in that time would be a big difference in terms of number of units that each civ could build at that early game stage, and the level of development they could achieve. It would also let the early civs like Egypt, Harrappa, Babylonia (the Amorites), and China be more properly phased in at their real spawn dates all ranging from between 3300 and 2100BC instead of just plopping them all down at the start.
Pre-dynastic Egyptian city states (4500BC) and Sumerian city states (not sure but really early, I think the first large farming settlement with pottery and temples is dated to 6500bc-ish) both existed before 4000BC. I know you don't like the idea of including Sumeria, but you could include a Mesopotamian civ and an Egyptian civ.
there were also city states in the yellow river valey at this time, but i don't know if they were "han", so i'd start china with the Xia dynasty in 2100 bc still.
given that chinese and han are synonymous. yes, it does.
Imperator Knoedel
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Because Chinese history could only possibly unfold in this one particular way it did? Let's just ignore all other emerging polities then, the nation is history and history is the nation.
Quite hard.
DC123456789
Deity
This doesn't make any sense. In this context, "Han" means literally the exact same thing as "Chinese", no more, no less.
Because I am feeling mischievous, may I suggest that as long as we're subdividing China, "America" be replaced with four independent spawns a la Albion's Seed: Massachusetts, Virginia, Pennsylvania, and Kentucky.
And because eastern, upper Appalachia is very different from lower Appalachia, the latter should be subdivided into the separate states of the lower Mississippi. Certainly Texas needs to be its own unique spawn. Actually, it needs more than one spawn, because don't tell anyone from that state that there's no difference between east Texas and west Texas, or between the Gulf country and the area around Midland/Odessa ...
And because eastern, upper Appalachia is very different from lower Appalachia, the latter should be subdivided into the separate states of the lower Mississippi. Certainly Texas needs to be its own unique spawn. Actually, it needs more than one spawn, because don't tell anyone from that state that there's no difference between east Texas and west Texas, or between the Gulf country and the area around Midland/Odessa ...
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Rex Omnium Imperarium
The Netherlands clearly needs all of its provinces to spawn. At the very least, there should be a Holland and a Friesland. Of course, Utrecht is quite relevant as well. And then we aren't even mentioning Belgium and Luxembourg.
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Rex Omnium Imperarium
Yes, but half of Venice should eventually try to join Austria if civic upkeep becomes too high.
In what context? I feel like the circular logic just continues.
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In the context that the Chinese word for Ethnically Chinese is Han maybe
Edmund Ironside
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I don’t know how doable it is, but you could have Egypt, Harrapans and Sumerians (or Babylonians representing the Sumerians) spawn in 4000BC which would be historically accurate enough. Civ games traditionally started in 4000BC as that is roughly when civilizations started to appear. More time to develop would certainly help Egypt who I tend to find are one of the harder earlier civs to play, and rarely expand as far as they did historically.
Also you could have increased barbarian attacks from 1200BC-900BC to represent the Sea People attacks which affected many civilizations in the eastern Mediterranean, including the Greeks, Phoenicians, Egyptians and Hittites.
Also you could have increased barbarian attacks from 1200BC-900BC to represent the Sea People attacks which affected many civilizations in the eastern Mediterranean, including the Greeks, Phoenicians, Egyptians and Hittites.
DC123456789
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Using "Han" to refer to culture/ethnicity as opposed to the dynasty (which of course is the namesake).
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