Superheroes!

I've rewatched Iron Man 2, Captain America, Age of Ultron and Infinity War over the last few weeks. I was disappointed to find that Netflix lost Civil War 6 months ago. I think I have access to The Winter Soldier, maybe I'll rewatch that too - I think that might be my favorite Marvel movie, if I had to pick one (the helicarrier hoedown at the end gets a little fatiguing, though).
 
BenitoChavez said:
New Captain Marvel trailer. Still meh on this film.
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I'm actually more psyched than I wanted to be. I was trying to play it cool.

In related news, io9 cites an MTV red carpet interview with Kevin Fiege:

In a recent interview with MTV News, Kevin Feige discussed the hopes of getting to make films for X-Men characters—both big and non-“marquee”—after the finalization of the Disney/Fox merger.

"It’s not just the marquee names, you know. There are hundreds of names on those documents, on those agreements. The fact that Marvel is now as close as we may ever be to having access to all of the characters is something I’ve been dreaming about for my almost 20 years at Marvel. It’s very exciting."
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It sounds like the MCU may let the iconic X-Men characters go fallow for a bit. Probably not the worst idea.

I really want to get Feige in a room with John Krazinsky and Emily Blunt about rebooting the Fantastic Four. Krazinsky has said he would be down for (talking about) it, but hasn't been contacted by anybody at Disney. I suppose it's probably too early for casting, even if the MCU people have Krazinsky & Blunt on their "fantasy draft" board.
 
EgonSpengler said:
I've rewatched Iron Man 2, Captain America, Age of Ultron and Infinity War over the last few weeks. I was disappointed to find that Netflix lost Civil War 6 months ago. I think I have access to The Winter Soldier, maybe I'll rewatch that too - I think that might be my favorite Marvel movie, if I had to pick one (the helicarrier hoedown at the end gets a little fatiguing, though).
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If I had to pick one, right now it would have to be Age of Ultron. To me, it is the absolute peak of blending humor and action. If I crack up unexpectedly in the middle of the day, at least half the time it's because I just recalled Vision handing Thor his hammer. Hemsworth's deadpan response was absolute perfection.
 
Timsup2nothin said:
If I had to pick one, right now it would have to be Age of Ultron. To me, it is the absolute peak of blending humor and action. If I crack up unexpectedly in the middle of the day, at least half the time it's because I just recalled Vision handing Thor his hammer. Hemsworth's deadpan response was absolute perfection.
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Yeah, Winter Soldier has very little humor. I never really thought of Ultron among the MCU action-comedies, but it does have some of that Joss Whedon style to it. I liked the after-party where everyone is trying to lift Mjolnir (except Natasha - "That's not a question I need answered.") Speaking of Natasha, I'd forgotten all about the flashbacks to the Red Room, where we see her basically being tortured and forced to kill a bound, hooded prisoner - we can presume she wasn't told who the man was or why he needed to die, she was just ordered to kill him, no questions asked (but, heck, in the 1930s, Dottie Underwood had to kill her friend with her bare hands, not just some anonymous dude - I guess the Red Room had gone soft by the time Natasha was there in the '90s). I'd totally forgotten that Julie Delpy was in the movie.
 
EgonSpengler said:
Yeah, Winter Soldier has very little humor. I never really thought of Ultron among the MCU action-comedies, but it does have some of that Joss Whedon style to it. I liked the after-party where everyone is trying to lift Mjolnir (except Natasha - "That's not a question I need answered.") Speaking of Natasha, I'd forgotten all about the flashbacks to the Red Room, where we see her basically being tortured and forced to kill a bound, hooded prisoner - we can presume she wasn't told who the man was or why he needed to die, she was just ordered to kill him, no questions asked (but, heck, in the 1930s, Dottie Underwood had to kill her friend with her bare hands, not just some anonymous dude - I guess the Red Room had gone soft by the time Natasha was there in the '90s). I'd totally forgotten that Julie Delpy was in the movie.
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See, that's the quality in MCU movies. That party scene with the hammer lift is funny in itself, but it's also the setup that makes the punchline scene when Vision hands Thor the hammer work. That kind of thing gives a movie a continuity that a lot of disjointed action flicks lack.
 
"You put the hammer in an elevator; it goes up. Is the elevator 'worthy'?"
 
EgonSpengler said:
"You put the hammer in an elevator; it goes up. Is the elevator 'worthy'?"
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Kinda begs the question of whether Vision could lift it because he is as worthy as Thor, or because he is just a glorified elevator, doesn't it?
 
The truck Stan Lee was driving in Thor couldn't lift it when it was chained to it. So the elevator shouldn't either.
 
Cutlass said:
The truck Stan Lee was driving in Thor couldn't lift it when it was chained to it. So the elevator shouldn't either.
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It's a question of intent. Technically, the ground is "holding it up" so it should sink into the Earth...but the rotation of the Earth is "lifting it" away from sun approximately half of the time, and that shouldn't be happening either. The Earth, the elevator, and apparently the Vision, are just objects obeying the laws of physics and have no intent. So in Thor, even though it was chained to a truck, it was the driver Stan Lee who was doing the lifting. Problem being that if Stan Lee isn't worthy, probably not even Thor would be.
 
Timsup2nothin said:
Kinda begs the question of whether Vision could lift it because he is as worthy as Thor, or because he is just a glorified elevator, doesn't it?
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Either that or the power of the mind stone beats Odin magic.
 
I just read that Floriana Lima, late of Supergirl (she played Alex's girlfriend, whose name I forget), is in season 2 of The Punisher. Which premiers this Friday, btw. I think she's not the first to go from DC to Marvel, or vice-versa, but Supergirl-to-The Punisher may be the biggest tonal change in the history of comic book adaptations. :lol:
 
This looks fascinating. Great cast.

 
In a 90-second video, James McAvoy makes a good point about one of the challenges writers would face in bringing the X-Men into the MCU, with the Fox-Disney merger: The X-Men franchise is about a massive group of people - "hundred of thousands, maybe millions" - who are viewed with skepticism or even fear. Meanwhile, the MCU is about a handful of people who are generally regarded as heroes. The worlds the characters inhabit are completely different, in important ways that influence the characters and their stories.

This was true for the comics, too. I thought about it a little, even when I was a kid - "Why are the Fantastic Four and the Avengers heroes, but the X-Men are outcasts?" - but in a comics universe there was more of a willingness on the reader's part to suspend disbelief and not think too hard about those inconsistencies. In a film franchise, I think you'd need to come up with some kind of plausible, in-universe explanation for why the two groups are treated differently.
 
EgonSpengler said:
In a 90-second video, James McAvoy makes a good point about one of the challenges writers would face in bringing the X-Men into the MCU, with the Fox-Disney merger: The X-Men franchise is about a massive group of people - "hundred of thousands, maybe millions" - who are viewed with skepticism or even fear. Meanwhile, the MCU is about a handful of people who are generally regarded as heroes. The worlds the characters inhabit are completely different, in important ways that influence the characters and their stories.

This was true for the comics, too. I thought about it a little, even when I was a kid - "Why are the Fantastic Four and the Avengers heroes, but the X-Men are outcasts?" - but in a comics universe there was more of a willingness on the reader's part to suspend disbelief and not think too hard about those inconsistencies. In a film franchise, I think you'd need to come up with some kind of plausible, in-universe explanation for why the two groups are treated differently.
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Even as a kid reading comics I gravitated naturally towards "the multiverse." Different titles take place in different worlds is fine for me, and I hope Marvel has the sense, and the leverage, to keep the X-Men in their own darkly conflicted continuum. The Fantastic Four too, for that matter.
 
The latest episode of Supergirl was a snoozer, but I'm glad I stuck with it until the end. The precariousness of Kara's secret identity has always been an elephant in the room that the writers have refused to look at directly. I hope they don't drop the ball and do something dumb like the "magic kiss" in Superman II (even when I was a kid, that scene rankled me). There's a line in Supergirl's opening-credits monologue when Benoist says something like "to most people, I'm a reporter at CatCo Media[...]", and I always say to myself, "No, that's wrong - to most people, you're Supergirl." Kara Danvers and Clark Kent have to be relatively anonymous for the ol' glasses-and-dorkiness routine to work. It would be the people close to them who would figure it out first.


Timsup2nothin said:
Even as a kid reading comics I gravitated naturally towards "the multiverse." Different titles take place in different worlds is fine for me, and I hope Marvel has the sense, and the leverage, to keep the X-Men in their own darkly conflicted continuum.
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Me too. I always willingly bought into both the multiverse idea and the idea that all of these characters coexist yet rarely meet. I do think that I had a lower bar for the suspension of disbelief for comics, and I think today's "cinematic universes" have a greater burden for consistency. I don't share some people's issues with the Netflix series, the ABC series, and the films supposedly coexisting with each other, but pretending they don't, but I also think the X-Men franchises deserve and can support their own, separate continuum. (btw, with all the talk about the Fox-Disney merger and what that could mean for the X-Men and Deadpool movies, I haven't heard or read any mention of The Gifted or Legion.)

Timsup2nothin said:
The Fantastic Four too, for that matter.
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I actually think the FF would fit well with the MCU. I want to see the MCU expand, and the FF would bring a lot of characters who could intermingle, if they decide to do that. Marvel Team-Up seems like a no-brainer for the Disney+ streaming service, especially since anthology series seem to be in vogue these days, with things like American Horror Story and True Detective doing well.
 
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