We're jumping around without a lot of reason here, we can do much better. I'll breakdown my thoughts on everybody, with the people strongly innocent first and very reasonable deductions about everyone else, the result being it's only 2-3 people we're actually uncertain of and should consider for the lynch.
Jarrema could have no motive for exposing and lynching Kennigit if Jarrema was mafia- so he's not. There's no way tailless is scum when he resurrected me either. I got an innocent scan result when I used the Sheep talisman on Daveshack - and getting it back tonight would be fine, I'll take it and use it again. Not foolproof but the scan seems to have been accurate so far and besides, I assume Daveshack could claim everything about his role if needed.
General Olaf was clearly attacked by the scum (and the vigilante) and his posts show evidence of baiting them, knowing that he's innocent with the tiger talisman. Makes sense with him being Captain Black, none of it makes sense with him being Shendu. NinjaCow has claimed to be the vigilante which consistently rules him out from other scum actions and the fact that landlubber was vigged means we are assuming the vigilante kill isn't a scum attack.
We come to Visorslash who we didn't know a lot about before but NinjaCow has claimed today he's innocent and I can't see why that would be done if they are of different alignments (an Innocent NinjaCow wouldn't fake an innocence claim on Visorslash if he had no evidence; a scum NinjaCow wouldn't purposefully clear an innocent Visorslash). Still, a claim or a scan of Visorslash if it goes into the next night might help.
Verarde and Mergle are really the two without much of a proven identity or abilities. Verarde has claimed to have been using a protection ability - but we don't have public evidence in the writeups and nobody has claimed they were informed in private, have they? Like yesterday I'd like to trust the claim but it hasn't been sufficiently fleshed out. Also, I'm not sure what Mergle has done or who he really is - I certainly give him credit for seemingly contributing to the town and even joining our lynches and really he's been "sounding" like Section 13 but that's not hard evidence. He should be able to claim a character and ability as well.
Mergle and Verarde both helped us lynch choxorn, which is curious, but could be desperate bussing - especially when we have stronger evidence of who everybody else is. Given the possibily Verarde and choxorn were both scum and had to fake claims things make marginally more sense. Then they had no control of the lynch result either way, while another hypothetical ally of choxorn's could have tried to save choxorn, but I'm certainly open to changing my vote and hearing out Verarde's defense.
Whatever the case, we can clearly resolve this with some more discussion and without everyone hopping around from vote to vote on a whim. We (some of it's more in private than in public, true) know of the identities and talismans and abilities used by several townies. For the remainder, there are a few talismans left and the mafia had one originally, but the remaining townies would also have had one each. I think it's dog, horse, ox, and monkey that we haven't seen any public evidence of or discussion.
I would be optimistic that the innocents among the relatively unknown people can explain themselves and make the case for the right lynch successfully. Or at the very least we'll get it right tomorrow, we just need to keep level heads.
Jarrema could have no motive for exposing and lynching Kennigit if Jarrema was mafia- so he's not. There's no way tailless is scum when he resurrected me either. I got an innocent scan result when I used the Sheep talisman on Daveshack - and getting it back tonight would be fine, I'll take it and use it again. Not foolproof but the scan seems to have been accurate so far and besides, I assume Daveshack could claim everything about his role if needed.
General Olaf was clearly attacked by the scum (and the vigilante) and his posts show evidence of baiting them, knowing that he's innocent with the tiger talisman. Makes sense with him being Captain Black, none of it makes sense with him being Shendu. NinjaCow has claimed to be the vigilante which consistently rules him out from other scum actions and the fact that landlubber was vigged means we are assuming the vigilante kill isn't a scum attack.
We come to Visorslash who we didn't know a lot about before but NinjaCow has claimed today he's innocent and I can't see why that would be done if they are of different alignments (an Innocent NinjaCow wouldn't fake an innocence claim on Visorslash if he had no evidence; a scum NinjaCow wouldn't purposefully clear an innocent Visorslash). Still, a claim or a scan of Visorslash if it goes into the next night might help.
Verarde and Mergle are really the two without much of a proven identity or abilities. Verarde has claimed to have been using a protection ability - but we don't have public evidence in the writeups and nobody has claimed they were informed in private, have they? Like yesterday I'd like to trust the claim but it hasn't been sufficiently fleshed out. Also, I'm not sure what Mergle has done or who he really is - I certainly give him credit for seemingly contributing to the town and even joining our lynches and really he's been "sounding" like Section 13 but that's not hard evidence. He should be able to claim a character and ability as well.
Mergle and Verarde both helped us lynch choxorn, which is curious, but could be desperate bussing - especially when we have stronger evidence of who everybody else is. Given the possibily Verarde and choxorn were both scum and had to fake claims things make marginally more sense. Then they had no control of the lynch result either way, while another hypothetical ally of choxorn's could have tried to save choxorn, but I'm certainly open to changing my vote and hearing out Verarde's defense.
Whatever the case, we can clearly resolve this with some more discussion and without everyone hopping around from vote to vote on a whim. We (some of it's more in private than in public, true) know of the identities and talismans and abilities used by several townies. For the remainder, there are a few talismans left and the mafia had one originally, but the remaining townies would also have had one each. I think it's dog, horse, ox, and monkey that we haven't seen any public evidence of or discussion.
I would be optimistic that the innocents among the relatively unknown people can explain themselves and make the case for the right lynch successfully. Or at the very least we'll get it right tomorrow, we just need to keep level heads.
Yeah, because two townies and a Mafioso would TOTALLY work together.
lol
