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Tancredo: If attacked, bomb Mecca!
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JohnRM
Don't make me destroy you
If you're just going to SPAM and you don't want to discuss the topic, then get out my thread.
I'm actually quite flattered that John will go to the ends of the earth to avenge my death, but I still cannot see how such measures would actually stop the violence and be a better long-term solution.
Perhaps sheer retaliation is the point, but we also do have to exercise restraint, particularly if we get to a point where we have a defeated foe.
Perhaps sheer retaliation is the point, but we also do have to exercise restraint, particularly if we get to a point where we have a defeated foe.
ROFL, yep.
Did you know the best way to prevent abortion is to kill every single doctor, everywhere.
JohnRM
Don't make me destroy you
I like how your entire argument rests on what side of the argument you are on;
"If Al Queda have to kill several hundred million sympathetic, but otherwise innocent civilians in order to get to the few millions that are American Imperialists and are sending American Troops to destroy our cities, then consider it done. That is what I am saying."
The problem with that is that their ultimate objective is an planet dominated by Islam, not a Middle East free from America, but even so, if they could kill us all, it would achieve their objective, wouldn't it?
Don't stop there. Keep telling me how evil I truly am. I have to be evil to disagree with you, right? Typical internet poster tactic. By the way, I've joined the army. I ship out to basic in three months. I am volunteering for duty in Iraq. Suck on that for a while.
The United States won't stand for anything if we're all dead cause Chamberlains like you allowed terrorists to nuke our cities, chem our rivers, and bio our food supplies.
Again, I've NEVER said anything about using nuclear weapons.
You know, you could have saved yourself a lot of trouble. It didn't take all that typing to flame me. Let me abridge your post.
Then, of course, you made your point about Al-Qaeda and were completely wrong about the last part. You've tried very hard to legitimize your flaming by putting one or two actual arguments in there, but I am not buying it. REPORTED.
JohnRM
Don't make me destroy you
You are intentionally misunderstanding or changing to meaning of the analogy in order to make a point.
The leg is Islam.
JohnRM
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Again, and I don't know how many times I've said this or will have to say this...you people conveniently ignore this point of fact; I am talking about the reaction that I would support in the aftermath of a nuclear, chemical, or biological terrorist attack on America killing tens or hundreds of thousands, not the current situation.
I am starting to wonder if you guys actually read my posts or just read how others react or just look for keywords in my post, like kill, Islamic World, and destroy.
JohnRM
Don't make me destroy you
If NYC is nuked, do you honestly care? Really think about it.
I am sorry, but if it comes down to that, I would rather see them all dead than risk it ever happening again. The rest of the world and anyone else who would be our enemies would have something to think about.
JohnRM
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Women can have abortions without a doctor.
JohnRM
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Can I report you for misquoting me and then claiming i flamed you?
Sure, but you're going to have to prove that you didn't call me all of those things. Its going to be quite hard unless you edit your post to remove it all. If you can, you're a daisy.
How can I edit your post where you created a quote that I SHOULD have said those things, but didn't. I'm sorry you think that it was a direct attack on you, but rather it's an attack on people that have very shallow ideas on how to confront problems.
and calling me a chamberlin is funny considering that I have supported military action in certain cirumstances. It's too bad you view me as an appeaser simply because I don't go in for your extreme levels of military confrontation over anything and everything.
I was hoping for better from you but alas, you made me out to be an enemy of the people because I simply think your unrestrained desires for unrestrained military conflict are too extreme.
JohnRM
Don't make me destroy you
So, then you're saying that we should consult military professionals in order to develop a strategy to deal with terrorists in the aftermath of an event where terrorists nuked a major US city?
That sounds fair enough, to me. However, I think you're missing it. I am not recommending any particular action. I am saying that if the action that I am talking about is all that is going to stop these attacks, that I would support it. If there is another way that is expedient and less bloody, then I have no problem taking that route, but if it takes the death of a billion Muslims to stop the attacks, then sign me up for it -- too late.
JohnRM
Don't make me destroy you
Oh, so now it is not a DIRECT attack on me, but all of those LIKE me. I'm still not buying it. If you want to report me, then do it, but I am no longer going to discuss this issue with you.
why do you think a genocide of a billion people in this hypothetical would be tasteful to most americans? you're making a weasel argument: you support action that would never happen and make attacks on people who think it's crazy to support such action. You then try to discredit ANY opposition to any form of retaliation by calling people chamberlins etc.
and honestly, killing a billion people has diplomatic/economic consequences that would make the United States weak.
JohnRM
Don't make me destroy you
you're making a weasel argument: you support action that would never happen and make attacks on people who think it's crazy to support such action. You then try to discredit ANY opposition to your form of retaliation by calling people chamberlins etc.
and honestly, killing a billion people has diplomatic/economic consequences that would make the United States weak.
People will do anything in the name of self-preservation.
unfortunately they might even lose the very reasons for preserving themselves by trying to preserve themselves.
Au contraire.
"Islam" is not a single, momolithic organization, and as such what one Muslim does should not be a reflection of what another does. Killing an entire group, or rather a set of groups, because of the actions of some of them makes no sense. If I start a religion that seeks to convert all to Christianity or kill them, and I get a following of millions, and I nuke Beijing (for example), that has nothing to do with what some Christian in Africa thinks and killing him won't stop me or punish me.
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