Team Fortress 2 Mafia: Game Thread [concluded]

I think BLU is the Offense, MGS.
 
Lolwut? I doubt that there is a class which is not on both sides.

And also, seeing as that is an OMGUS vote, I already unvoted you :p
 
Indeed, BLU is town, RED is Mafia. BLU is offense, RED is defense. If Omega does have our best interests in mind, I'll let that explosion slide. However, I found NinjaCow's eagerness to give away potentially lifesaving information to be highly suspect. vote: NinjaCow64
 
vote:Ninjacow64 since he basically gave the Red team a person they know what to do with, so that is not great team work from him, so if he is not RED, then he is clearly a liability and thus needs to be removed in either case.
 
Okay, SamSniped just role revealed to me. It doesn't seem right, for multiple reasons which I will list in this post later. Also, he said that Backwards Logic and Red Spy believe his roleclaim as well, which is odd considering it is so early in the game. It's also the kind of thing new players do when they are scum. Okay, more oddness:

1) He says he's a BLU soldier that has an ability called "Battalion's Backup" which gives a Two-Shot invunriblity from night kills to himself and another player. My ability comes in the form of a weapon and that does not sound like the name of a weapon, although this is TF2 and I have never played the game before so I could be very wrong. Also, I could be wrong about this for similar reasons, but Two-Shot invunriblity from nightkills doesn't sound like an ability that a soldier would have, especially because I am a Scout with an attack ability, abiet a very weak one. Yes I just roleclaimed in the middle of an accusation. Deal with it.


2) He also said that he was voting for Omega because he said he was a Demoman on SonIOT Chat and that someone was blowing people up. Considering Spies like to stab people in the back rather than blow someone up, that would make Omega more likely to be a viglante. Holding this information back from the town only serves to hurt the town and spread confusion. And who talks about roles on chat of all places anyway?

3) The fact that he roleclaimed to me when there was ONE vote against him. Flintch much?

4) BL and RS apparently knowing about this. That makes no sense unless they were Masons, which he would have mentioned; Mafia or he did that weird roleclaim thing to those two as well. RS might believe him, but someone with as much Mafia experience as BL? Please. This point is definitely the most damning point of all.

In Summary: Lynch SamSniped today, if he is a RED then lynch BackwardsLogic and Red_Spy the next days. If he is BLU, BL and RS are probable town, I will kick myself in the leg really hard and I'll give town permission to kill me. That is all.

Correction: I am too lazy to edit it into my post, so a I shall put it here: The PM says that RS and BL have merely been informed about this and that they might not believe him, but this is still über fishy and I still don't like it. FoS: SamSniped, BackwardsLogic and Red_Spy

So you're the scout that used a Boston Basher on SamSniped. Got it.

On point one: As for the Battalion Backup claim, given there's no mention of critical hits anywhere in the rule set up, I do find his claim of this weapon plausible. Since there's no critical hits to block, it'd need something else to do and this limited invulnerability seems to fit the bill.

On point two: It's possible his PG involves wiping out the demos. Veteran players know about the Demo vs Soldier (WAR!) update, so if this is the case it explains his motives for wanting Omega gone. A confirmation would be nice though, either publicly or privately.

On point three: On his roleclaim to you, it's not much of a flinch when a number of people already publicly know what his claim is. Had be been clamming up this whole time and just now revealed to you, then I'd buy the flinch argument.

On point four: Pretty much covered in the earlier points, but I'll reiterate: his claim makes sense, and I'd expect players who have played the game to at least consider its plausibility due to how it functions and the game mechanics at play here. Red_Spy would fall under this category of player.

I'll bite on Zack's vote choice though (vote: Takhisis), though I'd like a private explanation just so I have a rough idea why I'm voting this way.
 
Can we have the updated list for each day and night section, since it allows for easier ability to follow the game? Keep updating the first post with the player list also.

Okay.
 
Well, for what it's worth, I think NinjaCow is town. I doubt he would go to all of that trouble as mafia, since it's so reckless.
 
Sam, just because you've been lynched in this game and survived doesn't automatically mean you're town. You may have been attacked, but we only have your word to go on, although I believe you were because bleeding 5HP for 3 turns sounds convincing. Also, just because you were attacked, it doesn't mean you were attacked by mafia. It could be a town vig or even a serial killer (and based on the size of the game, that's not too unlikely). I'm not going to vote for you because that seems like a newby mistake to make, but I will still be keeping my eye out.
 
I also think Ninja is town.
As I do not have idea who is scum. I will shamelessly follow, and vote: Takhisis
 
NinjaCow said:
Okay, SamSniped just role revealed to me. It doesn't seem right, for multiple reasons which I will list in this post later. Also, he said that Backwards Logic and Red Spy believe his roleclaim as well, which is odd considering it is so early in the game. It's also the kind of thing new players do when they are scum. Okay, more oddness:

Glad you let someone speak for me, that surely shows what I think. Get this, I never said I believed his claim for it is way too early in the game for someone to do something like that. Also, you know I am not new at this?

NinjaCow said:
1) He says he's a BLU soldier that has an ability called "Battalion's Backup" which gives a Two-Shot invunriblity from night kills to himself and another player. My ability comes in the form of a weapon and that does not sound like the name of a weapon, although this is TF2 and I have never played the game before so I could be very wrong. Also, I could be wrong about this for similar reasons, but Two-Shot invunriblity from nightkills doesn't sound like an ability that a soldier would have, especially because I am a Scout with an attack ability, abiet a very weak one. Yes I just roleclaimed in the middle of an accusation. Deal with it.

Glad you revealed info that could save someone. And also, check the wiki, it shows every single item in the entire TF2 game there, and what class has it. Then you'll know what class is right to have it.

NinjaCow said:
2) He also said that he was voting for Omega because he said he was a Demoman on SonIOT Chat and that someone was blowing people up. Considering Spies like to stab people in the back rather than blow someone up, that would make Omega more likely to be a viglante. Holding this information back from the town only serves to hurt the town and spread confusion. And who talks about roles on chat of all places anyway?

And you revealed a possible vigilante, another good job.

NinjaCow said:
4) BL and RS apparently knowing about this. That makes no sense unless they were Masons, which he would have mentioned; Mafia or he did that weird roleclaim thing to those two as well. RS might believe him, but someone with as much Mafia experience as BL? Please. This point is definitely the most damning point of all.

Except I only knew about him claiming to be a Soldier, never knew anything else. And I say again, I am not new at this, I never said believed him.

Vote: NinjaCow64
 
After talking to me, Omega has proven to me he did not cause those explosions, and I redact my statement that I made about him being a Demoman and causing that.
 
Now, if Omega is not Demo, what shall I do?

I'll stick to my plan, unvote; vote: mgsmuhammad
 
Backwards... Omega... please don't edit posts with votes in them. :p
 
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